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First of all: I don't have any first hand experience of smartphones
but now that my trusted old GSM phone is getting old I decided I am
in for an up-grade. It struck me it might be nice to get something
for which I could write Python programs.

A very quick internet search indicated that this should be no big
deal if I go for an Android-based phone. What about the alterna-
tives?

It struck me this must be the best place to ask.

What else? I don't know if it matters but my home PC OS is Linux.
And I am not much of a Python programmer but I enjoy learning it
and I have reached a level that has turned out to be useful at work.

/Martin

On 15/02/2012 20:58, Martin Schöön wrote:
> First of all: I don't have any first hand experience of smartphones
> but now that my trusted old GSM phone is getting old I decided I am
> in for an up-grade. It struck me it might be nice to get something
> for which I could write Python programs.
>
> A very quick internet search indicated that this should be no big
> deal if I go for an Android-based phone. What about the alterna-
> tives?
>
> It struck me this must be the best place to ask.
>
> What else? I don't know if it matters but my home PC OS is Linux.
> And I am not much of a Python programmer but I enjoy learning it
> and I have reached a level that has turned out to be useful at work.
>
Python has been ported to iOS, if you're thinking of going the Apple
route:

http://ipython.hozbox.com

Martin Schöön <> writes:
> A very quick internet search indicated that this should be no big
> deal if I go for an Android-based phone. What about the alternatives?

It works pretty well with Maemo, though phones with that are not so easy
to find. My ex-officemate wrote some SL4A (Android) apps in Python and
said it was pretty easy to use, though some features were missing. I
know that one missing feature was tkinter.

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Martin Schöön <> wrote:
> First of all: I don't have any first hand experience of smartphones
> but now that my trusted old GSM phone is getting old I decided I am
> in for an up-grade. It struck me it might be nice to get something
> for which I could write Python programs.
>
> A very quick internet search indicated that this should be no big
> deal if I go for an Android-based phone. What about the alterna-
> tives?
>
> It struck me this must be the best place to ask.
>
> What else? I don't know if it matters but my home PC OS is Linux.
> And I am not much of a Python programmer but I enjoy learning it
> and I have reached a level that has turned out to be useful at work.

Please note that while SL4A is a pretty good mobile python environment
it doesn't support all of the Android API, which means it generally
isn't an easy way to develop fully-fledged Android apps.

Geremy Condra

在 2012å¹´2月16日星期四UTC+8上å�ˆ10æ—¶19分15ç§ ’，geremy condra写é�“：
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Martin Schöön <> wrote:
> > First of all: I don't have any first hand experience of smartphones
> > but now that my trusted old GSM phone is getting old I decided I am
> > in for an up-grade. It struck me it might be nice to get something
> > for which I could write Python programs.
> >
> > A very quick internet search indicated that this should be no big
> > deal if I go for an Android-based phone. What about the alterna-
> > tives?
> >
> > It struck me this must be the best place to ask.
> >
> > What else? I don't know if it matters but my home PC OS is Linux.
> > And I am not much of a Python programmer but I enjoy learning it
> > and I have reached a level that has turned out to be useful at work.
>
> Please note that while SL4A is a pretty good mobile python environment
> it doesn't support all of the Android API, which means it generally
> isn't an easy way to develop fully-fledged Android apps.
>
> Geremy Condra
In the 4 G space of SW AP in Adndroid phones,
check Jython. But I think a better data compression
modules is more helpful.

Patterns about arithmetic compressions and LZW are expired, but not those in mp4 for the commercial use.

Thus, the time to install a complete OS on a tablet
or mobile phone with LTE on the way.

We need smaller HD or flashes in these small devices.

在 2012å¹´2月16日星期四UTC+8上å�ˆ10æ—¶19分15ç§ ’，geremy condra写é�“：
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Martin Schöön <> wrote:
> > First of all: I don't have any first hand experience of smartphones
> > but now that my trusted old GSM phone is getting old I decided I am
> > in for an up-grade. It struck me it might be nice to get something
> > for which I could write Python programs.
> >
> > A very quick internet search indicated that this should be no big
> > deal if I go for an Android-based phone. What about the alterna-
> > tives?
> >
> > It struck me this must be the best place to ask.
> >
> > What else? I don't know if it matters but my home PC OS is Linux.
> > And I am not much of a Python programmer but I enjoy learning it
> > and I have reached a level that has turned out to be useful at work.
>
> Please note that while SL4A is a pretty good mobile python environment
> it doesn't support all of the Android API, which means it generally
> isn't an easy way to develop fully-fledged Android apps.
>
> Geremy Condra
In the 4 G space of SW AP in Adndroid phones,
check Jython. But I think a better data compression
modules is more helpful.

Patterns about arithmetic compressions and LZW are expired, but not those in mp4 for the commercial use.

Thus, the time to install a complete OS on a tablet
or mobile phone with LTE on the way.

We need smaller HD or flashes in these small devices.

On 02/15/2012 07:38 PM, 88888 Dihedral wrote:
> In the 4 G space of SW AP in Adndroid phones,
> check Jython. But I think a better data compression
> modules is more helpful.

Jython, though a very cool and useful implementation, relies on the Java
virtual machine to run. It does not yet run on Dalvik, nor is it clear
that it ever will. The project to port jython to Dalvik, but it died
and the authors said, just use Android scripting. lame.

The law suites of JAVA Vitrtual Machine from Oracle
are famous now. But in 201X the JVM patents will be
expired, thus it is not very urgent to chunk out a new jython now. Anyway just write codes that can be maintained and ported to other languages and platforms
easily.

Then I personally prefer python.

The law suites of JAVA Vitrtual Machine from Oracle
are famous now. But in 201X the JVM patents will be
expired, thus it is not very urgent to chunk out a new jython now. Anyway just write codes that can be maintained and ported to other languages and platforms
easily.

Then I personally prefer python.

On 02/16/2012 07:53 AM, 88888 Dihedral wrote:
> The law suites of JAVA Vitrtual Machine from Oracle
> are famous now. But in 201X the JVM patents will be
> expired, thus it is not very urgent to chunk out a new jython now. Anyway just write codes that can be maintained and ported to other languages and platforms
> easily.

Umm what does this have to do with anything?

You claimed Jython is or will be available on Android. It's not and
Jython isn't being ported to Dalvik and it has nothing to do with
patents. Android might use java a language, but the virtual machines
are very different. And no expired patents are going to change that
fact. Android simply isn't going to run the JVM anytime soon.