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On 8/02/2012 7:49 p.m., Enkidu wrote:
> On 08/02/12 13:23, JohnO wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Peter - yep Amazon ships to NZ now - I guess that's very
>> recent news then!
>>
> Last coupla days....
>
> Cheers,
>
> Cliff
>

For the touch, but the keyboard kindles were made available quite a
while ago.

> Dave Doe wrote:

>> > How you mean? - get them off irc - are you able to name or hint any
>> > channels?
>>
>> #ebooks
>
> Damn I'm the only member - and created a new channel (Galaxynet).
> So next q. - what server(s) carry that? Cheers.
>

Undernet

#bookz is good too

Try before you buy. Just remember to buy

Lodi

In article <jgtgo3$el8$>, , Lodi says...
>
> > Dave Doe wrote:
>
> >> > How you mean? - get them off irc - are you able to name or hint any
> >> > channels?
> >>
> >> #ebooks
> >
> > Damn I'm the only member - and created a new channel (Galaxynet).
> > So next q. - what server(s) carry that? Cheers.
> >
>
> Undernet
>
> #bookz is good too
>
> Try before you buy. Just remember to buy
>
> Lodi

I will

--
Duncan.

On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:48:12 +1300, Enkidu <cliffp@bogus> wrote:

>On 08/02/12 13:18, Frank Williams wrote:
>> On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:46:29 +1300, Enkidu<cliffp@bogus> wrote:
>>
>>> On 07/02/12 18:16, Frank Williams wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 15:52:46 -0800 (PST), JohnO<>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>> The other half wants an e-book reader for birthday and I can see
>>>>> there's Amazon/Kindle on one hand and the rest on the other. The
>>>>> Kindle has great looking daylight reading screen and really long
>>>>> battery life, but no email/web. The rest (tablets with ebook reader
>>>>> incl Kindle Fire) offer colour, low light reading, email and web but
>>>>> have short battery life and not great viewing in bright daylight.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any comments on NZ availability/price of titles for either, and
>>>>> general usability? I think a device without sufficient battery
>>>>> capacity to read the whole book without external power is no good but
>>>>> it's a shame to not have web/email.
>>>>
>>>> Please tell me how do I read my Colored PDF Books on it, they are a
>>>> totally waste of time, some thing in no way replaces a book a Netpad
>>>> would be better or a iPAD...
>>>>
>>> My little 'el cheapo' e-book reader handles color PDFs just fine. Which
>>> ones don't?
>>
>> Yes I had one it lasted 4 days utter Crap, got my Money back, totally
>> useless in reading PDF Files.
> >
>My one has lasted at least a year and it does colour PDFs!



No I just got ****ed of with it after 4 days of use, text to small had
to scroll around to read it, one of those many things that you dont
realy need, one of the many sales cons these day, like iPhone, iPads
Netbooks & Ulttrabooks, like you will die if you dont have one etc..


>Cheers,
>
>Cliff

In article <d0049138-04fd-4d9d-b49d-
>, , JohnO
says...
>
> Hello all,
>
> The other half wants an e-book reader for birthday and I can see
> there's Amazon/Kindle on one hand and the rest on the other. The
> Kindle has great looking daylight reading screen and really long
> battery life, but no email/web. The rest (tablets with ebook reader
> incl Kindle Fire) offer colour, low light reading, email and web but
> have short battery life and not great viewing in bright daylight.
>
> Any comments on NZ availability/price of titles for either, and
> general usability? I think a device without sufficient battery
> capacity to read the whole book without external power is no good but
> it's a shame to not have web/email.
>
> Cheers
> JohnO

I'm using a tablet - yep, it has short battery life. But Kindle for PC?
- I just gave up! The interface is *awful* and I never got the
registration to work (run a firewall - but couldn't be bothered trying
to find out what I need to do). Why can't they use https? Jesus!

Anyway, I've found Calibre - this an *awesome* reader - multiple formats
supported, powerful function set (way better than Kindle for PC) - yet
the most important functions are exposed simply and beautifully.

http://calibre-ebook.com/

--
Duncan.

On Feb 9, 1:35*pm, Frank Williams <FWilli...@happy.com.ru> wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:48:12 +1300, Enkidu <cliffp@bogus> wrote:
> >On 08/02/12 13:18, Frank Williams wrote:
> >> On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:46:29 +1300, Enkidu<cliffp@bogus> *wrote:
>
> >>> On 07/02/12 18:16, Frank Williams wrote:
> >>>> On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 15:52:46 -0800 (PST), JohnO<johno1...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>> Hello all,
>
> >>>>> The other half wants an e-book reader for birthday and I can see
> >>>>> there's Amazon/Kindle on one hand and the rest on the other. The
> >>>>> Kindle has great looking daylight reading screen and really long
> >>>>> battery life, but no email/web. The rest (tablets with ebook reader
> >>>>> incl Kindle Fire) offer colour, low light reading, email and web but
> >>>>> have short battery life and not great viewing in bright daylight.
>
> >>>>> Any comments on NZ availability/price of titles for either, and
> >>>>> general usability? I think a device without sufficient battery
> >>>>> capacity to read the whole book without external power is no good but
> >>>>> it's a shame to not have web/email.
>
> >>>> Please tell me how do I read my Colored PDF Books on it, they are a
> >>>> totally waste of time, some thing in no way replaces a book a Netpad
> >>>> would be better or a iPAD...
>
> >>> My little 'el cheapo' e-book reader handles color PDFs just fine. Which
> >>> ones don't?
>
> >> Yes I had one it lasted 4 days utter Crap, got my Money back, totally
> >> useless in reading PDF Files.
>
> >My one has lasted at least a year and it does colour PDFs!
>
> No I just got ****ed of with it after 4 days of use, *text to small had
> to scroll around to read it, one of those many *things that you dont
> realy need, one of the many sales cons these day, like iPhone, iPads
> Netbooks & Ulttrabooks, *like you will die if you dont have one etc..

You don't even need your computer, Woger. It isn't helping you one
bit.

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >Cheers,
>
> >Cliff

On Feb 8, 7:44*pm, Enkidu <cliffp@bogus> wrote:
> On 08/02/12 09:18, JohnO wrote:> On Feb 8, 9:02 am, Enkidu<cliffp@bogus> *wrote:
> >> On 08/02/12 08:40, JohnO wrote:
>
> >>> Cliff - re battery life - most of the tablets only claim 4-8 hour
> >>> battery life - probably not enough for me to get through a Ken Follett
> >>> over a long weekend.
>
> >> Sure, if that is *all* you do.
>
> > We had a very rainy Christmas and I knocked off 1000 pages of 'Fall of
> > Giants'. Great read. You socialists will really enjoy the shabby
> > treatment of the Russian peasants and Welsh miners in the lead up to
> > WW1.
>
> The Welsh miners and the welsh steelworkers. Shipped of to South Africa
> or Australia if they caused trouble.
> *>>> But if you recharge it overnight it
> >> should last. I've used one for a year and not had battery issues.
>
> > Ok. But you can't spend that much time actually reading a tablet
> > without getting sore eyes - so I'm told?
>
> You don't actually read for that long, do you John? A few hours a day is
> more usual, I believe.

I'd read for a couple of hours at a time on a rainy day or evening -
but I don't think I could do that with any kind of LCD.

>
> Cheers,
>
> Cliff
>
> --
>
> The ends justifies the means - Niccolò di Bernardo dei Machiavelli.
>
> The end excuses any evil - Sophocles

On Feb 8, 1:23*pm, Frank Williams <FWilli...@happy.com.ru> wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 11:40:12 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Feb 7, 7:44*pm, Enkidu <cliffp@bogus> wrote:
> >> On 07/02/12 12:52, JohnO wrote:> Hello all,
>
> >> > The other half wants an e-book reader for birthday and I can see
> >> > there's Amazon/Kindle on one hand and the rest on the other. The
> >> > Kindle has great looking daylight reading screen and really long
> >> > battery life, but no email/web. The rest (tablets with ebook reader
> >> > incl Kindle Fire) offer colour, low light reading, email and web but
> >> > have short battery life and not great viewing in bright daylight.
>
> >> > Any comments on NZ availability/price of titles for either, and
> >> > general usability? I think a device without sufficient battery
> >> > capacity to read the whole book without external power is no good but
> >> > it's a shame to not have web/email.
>
> >> Short battery life? I find that one charge lasts me about half a week.
>
> >> Cheers,
>
> >> Cliff
>
> >> --
>
> >> The ends justifies the means - Niccolò di Bernardo dei Machiavelli.
>
> >> The end excuses any evil - Sophocles
>
> >Thanks for all the comments everyone - I feel vindicated in ordering
> >the Kindle touch - especially seeing it got the prestigious CrapMark
> >TM from Woger.
>
> Why are you buying the Older model as its been replaced with the Kindle
> Fire .

No, Woger, it has not been replaced. It is still a current model. If
you were paying attention you would realise that the touch as an e-ink
display which is better for long reading and the fire has an LCD which
is no good for long reading periods, and also has short battery lofe
compared to the touch.

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >Cliff - re battery life - most of the tablets only claim 4-8 hour
> >battery life - probably not enough for me to get through a Ken Follett
> >over a long weekend.

In article <1f658d24-b592-4cc4-8c9b-
>, says...
>
> No, Woger, it has not been replaced. It is still a current model. If
> you were paying attention you would realise that the touch as an e-ink
> display which is better for long reading and the fire has an LCD which
> is no good for long reading periods, and also has short battery lofe
> compared to the touch.
>

In fact, Amazon are still selling the kindle 3 which is now sold as
'kindle keyboard' at a higher price than the kindle 4 and the kindle
touch.

Then there's the kindle dx wich is, iirc, larger but also works on e-ink
for people whose eyes aren't really 'up to scratch any more'. I can do
without holding the extra weight ... I'd rather wear reading glasses.

The kindle fire is/was not in competition with any of these, as you
said. More of an ipad knockoff.

Roger's showing yet again that he's talking out of his arse, I'm afraid.
What's new.

-P.

On 13/02/12 09:26, JohnO wrote:
> On Feb 8, 7:44 pm, Enkidu<cliffp@bogus> wrote:
>> On 08/02/12 09:18, JohnO wrote:> On Feb 8, 9:02 am, Enkidu<cliffp@bogus> wrote:
>>>> On 08/02/12 08:40, JohnO wrote:
>>
>>>>> Cliff - re battery life - most of the tablets only claim 4-8 hour
>>>>> battery life - probably not enough for me to get through a Ken Follett
>>>>> over a long weekend.
>>
>>>> Sure, if that is *all* you do.
>>
>>> We had a very rainy Christmas and I knocked off 1000 pages of 'Fall of
>>> Giants'. Great read. You socialists will really enjoy the shabby
>>> treatment of the Russian peasants and Welsh miners in the lead up to
>>> WW1.
>>
>> The Welsh miners and the welsh steelworkers. Shipped of to South Africa
>> or Australia if they caused trouble.
>> >>> But if you recharge it overnight it
>>>> should last. I've used one for a year and not had battery issues.
>>
>>> Ok. But you can't spend that much time actually reading a tablet
>>> without getting sore eyes - so I'm told?
>>
>> You don't actually read for that long, do you John? A few hours a day is
>> more usual, I believe.
>
> I'd read for a couple of hours at a time on a rainy day or evening -
> but I don't think I could do that with any kind of LCD.
>
Try it. You may change your mind. I love mine. Paper books now seem awkward.

Cheers,

Cliff

--

The ends justifies the means - Niccolò di Bernardo dei Machiavelli.

The end excuses any evil - Sophocles