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Dave Doe
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      02-15-2012
In article <jhg2bh$1n7$(E-Mail Removed)>, http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/(E-Mail Removed), Richard
says...
>
> On 2/15/2012 9:59 PM, Frank Williams wrote:
>
>
> >> Cellphone is a viable backup for emergency use.

> >
> >
> >
> > DONT YOU REMEMBER THAT THEY HAD TO SHIP STACKS OF LAND LINE PHONES TO
> > CHRISTCHURCH.

>
> Yes, and I believe that is soley because they needed no power for people
> that didnt have solutions to operate when the grid goes down.
>
> I do to a degree, with a small generator to charge my mobile, the
> network stayed up very well and you never hear from the many people that
> lost PSTN when the cables were damaged with a massive long repair timeframe.


I thought the cell network coped OK too - I'm not sure if *any*
celltowers went out of action, would be interesting to find out. I bet
their backup batteries are all nice shiny nu ones now I thought the
network was unuesable for phone calls immediately after the big ones,
and for many hours it seemed to me. I guess like the old dialup modem
days, the service providers hinge their bets on usage. I think, and
hope they'll do something, that they found out it was grossly overloaded
and rendered useless at a time people needed it the most - in an
emergency.

Amazingly, the TXT system seemed to work just fine, albeit my mother is
still ****ing useless at it - I ended up driving there. Opawa to
Avonhead - 2.5hrs!

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Geopelia
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      02-15-2012

"Dave Doe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)-september.org...
> In article <jhg1bi$in4$(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed), Geopelia
> says...
>>
>> "Robin Halligan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:13:50 +1300, Frank Williams wrote:
>> >
>> > Hey ignorant dick
>> >
>> >> This Geopelia person Does not take any advice from people here and
>> >> he
>> >
>> > Geo has taken lots of advice from people on here and SHE is very nice
>> > about
>> > it, you just don't know how to talk to people.
>> >
>> >> has No understanding about Virus program, this subject has been around
>> >> this bush more times that I can remember.
>> >
>> > Geo has something she knows how to use and is happy with, SHE is not
>> > likely
>> > to be looking into place that are rife with Viruses and it will protect
>> > her
>> > puter, just because its not to your likening doesn't make her wrong.
>> >
>> >> Why try the help this person when he ? does not take any advice at
>> >> all.
>> >
>> > She does take advice you just need to talk to people so they can follow
>> > what you are talking about,maybe that's something you could learn.
>> >
>> >> I gave some time back its total waste of time.
>> >
>> > anything from you is a waste of time.
>> >
>> >> From the 100's of Geopelia post here I think its a Bot..
>> >
>> > Well she is not but judging from your posts on her you are an unclued
>> > arrogant impatient person.
>> >

>>
>> Hey don't fight over me chaps!
>>
>> I don't worry, I've been called everything from a socialist mungbean to a
>> Nazi witch over on nz.general.
>> (And some stuff a lady can't repeat).

>
> Tough as old boots eh , LOL
>


Well worn but worn well.


 
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bugalugs
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      02-16-2012
On 15/02/2012 1:24 p.m., bugalugs wrote:
> On 15/02/2012 12:59 p.m., Dave Doe wrote:
>> In article<jhej10$34r$(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed), Geopelia
>> says...
>>>
>>> "Dave Doe"<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)-september.org...
>>>> In article<jhdhuv$3so$(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed), Geopelia
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Frank Williams"<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 02:27:02 +1300, "Geopelia"<(E-Mail Removed)>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Frank Williams"<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 18:30:00 +1300,
>>>>>>>> "Geopelia"<(E-Mail Removed)>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "~misfit~"<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:jh73pg$ejp$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Geopelia wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> "~misfit~"<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:jh47gi$vc5$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is the St John button dependant on the land-line? If so then I
>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>> that there's a possibility that you could get the land-line
>>>>>>>>>>>> funded
>>>>>>>>>>>> for you (and scratch all of the above<g>).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, Hubby's Disability Allowance pays for St John's button,
>>>>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>>>> $39 a fortnight.
>>>>>>>>>>> They take the money from our bank each fortnight, and it is
>>>>>>>>>>> added
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> his Super.
>>>>>>>>>>> But we still pay for the landline.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Geo, try telling them that you can't afford the landline and it
>>>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>> you'll have to go with pre-pay cell-phones. You never know, they
>>>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>>> pony up for the landline too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I doubt it, we would be above any means test limit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Actually that's something I might look into. Hmm, maybe
>>>>>>>>>> not..... I
>>>>>>>>>> dunno,
>>>>>>>>>> I just know that I don't drink, smoke and can't afford to
>>>>>>>>>> socialise
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> the credit-card balance is *still* increasing (despite turning
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> hot
>>>>>>>>>> water off for a spell..). I'm on pre-pay electricity too and I
>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>> it last to payday - or put it on the card again.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have a credit card, but only for my virus program and the odd on
>>>>>>>>> line
>>>>>>>>> purchase.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> YOU DO NOT NEED TO PAY FOR ANY CRAP VIRUS PROGRAM.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would rather pay that than pay for the computer man to deal with a
>>>>>>> virus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are plenty of Good Free ones, and from what has been reported
>>>>>> yours is not that good at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> The 2012 version is supposed to be good. We shall see.
>>>>
>>>> But when you can get the same or better protection for free???!@##@!?
>>>>
>>>> Do you have a cite for your claim?
>>>>
>>>> c/net - http://download.cnet.com/Trend-Micro...ntiVirus-Plus-
>>>> 2012/3000-18510_4-10440657.html
>>>>
>>>> "The bottom line: Following on last year's big overhaul, Trend Micro
>>>> makes a series of smaller changes to this year's Titanium security
>>>> suites. AntiVirus Plus contains the core features, but it's really on a
>>>> level with free competitors--and that's a hard sell."
>>>>
>>>> c/net Australia - http://www.cnet.com.au/trend-micro-titanium-maximum-
>>>> security-2012-339325555.htm
>>>>
>>>> "Conclusion
>>>>
>>>> Trend Micro leaped forward and took a risk in 2011. It didn't for the
>>>> 2012 suites, but it didn't have to. Instead, 2012 sees a solid upgrade,
>>>> with some clever new offerings. What holds back Trend Micro Titanium
>>>> Maximum Security are its benchmarks. The lacklustre threat removal
>>>> scores don't stand up against the more well-rounded competition, and
>>>> the
>>>> abysmal boot-time impact must be improved. If Titanium can polish those
>>>> areas, then that would be showing some mettle we could really get
>>>> behind."
>>>>
>>>> PC-Mag, Titanium AV -
>>>> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2391344,00.asp
>>>>
>>>> "Bottom Line
>>>> Trend Micro delivers on its promise of unobtrusive protection that's
>>>> easy to use. The problem is, both PCMag's tests and some independent
>>>> lab
>>>> tests show that it just doesn't protect as well as the competition."
>>>>
>>>> PC-Mag, Titanium Maximum -
>>>> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2391436,00.asp
>>>>
>>>> "Bottom Line
>>>> This suite's backup and file sync feature is both powerful and
>>>> flexible,
>>>> vastly better than the average suite. Antispam is also great, and it
>>>> offers a number of useful extras. However, its core antivirus
>>>> protection
>>>> rates poorly in my test and independent tests."
>>>>
>>>> PC-World -
>>>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/24889..._internet_secu
>>>>
>>>> rity_2012_review_nofrills_pc_protection.html
>>>>
>>>> "I suggest giving Trend Micro Titanium Internet Security 2012 a look,
>>>> but I can't give it an unequivocal "buy" recommendation based on its
>>>> acceptable-but-not-outstanding malware detection and blocking rates."
>>>>
>>>> PC-Advisor - http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/s...3333261/trend-
>>>> micro-titanium-maximum-security-2012-review/?tab=verdictTab#top
>>>>
>>>> "Trend Micro's flagship security suite received only an average rating
>>>> from AV-Test, who found it good at stopping some Windows malware but
>>>> poorer at removing it. In our tests we found the software was
>>>> relatively
>>>> slow at scanning and would appreciably delay some routine processes.
>>>> This is a fair choice as an Internet Security suite, although it
>>>> doesn't
>>>> shine in any single area."
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> I've only got a home computer and Trend Micro seems to be working well.
>>> It does take a while to load itself and do a scan, but I'm not in a
>>> hurry.
>>> It was included when I bought the computer years ago and they improve it
>>> every year or so.
>>> If I have to get a new computer I'll see what else is around.
>>>
>>> I'm saving all the suggestions here, which are much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Geopelia

>>
>> Today, with the free AV products available - it just makes no sense to
>> be *wasting* money on a paid for product, particularly on a home PC.
>>
>> Selling AV products to me, is like selling cheapish anti-zap/surge
>> protection devices - to my way of thinking, it's just the shop getting
>> more money off you on a PC product that they are not making much off.
>> IE they are increasing their profit - AT YOUR EXPENSE. I can only
>> presume they sold you one of those too
>>
>> I think we'e been over this before (paid for AV) - and the general
>> consensus (did *anyone* on nz.comp recommend paid for AV? - I don't
>> think so) was that it is an unecessary expense.
>>
>> But against all that advice, you continue to pay for your annual s/w
>> subscription to an AV product that has been, and continues to be,
>> inferior to its competition, including free AV products.
>>
>> More money than sense???
>>

>
> You might find that Geo is a bit reluctant to mess too much with the
> innards of the computer. Then have to get out her "computer man" to fix it.
>
> So what about some of you more knowledgeable Aucklanders getting
> yourselves organised and going over and sorting out Geo's machine. A lot
> of you would live less than 15 miles away so it's not too far to go. You
> might introduce her to AVG, Thunderbird and Firefox as well as maybe
> check out the phone situation too.
>
> I'm sure a big chocolate cake at the end of the excercise would taste
> twice as good as any you have ever tasted. :>)
>
>
>
>

Well that never got off the ground.

I would do something myself but
1: I am in Tauranga and
2:I don't have much knowledge/experience once you open up the box. I'm
much more adept at tutoring on how to use the programs.

So Geo it looks like you can ask any question you like, no matter how
frivolous it may seem, and these guys will answer it for you rather than
coming around and sorting it out.



--
A conscience is what hurts when all your other parts feel so
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Geopelia
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      02-16-2012

"bugalugs" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On 15/02/2012 1:24 p.m., bugalugs wrote:
>> On 15/02/2012 12:59 p.m., Dave Doe wrote:
>>> In article<jhej10$34r$(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed), Geopelia
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> "Dave Doe"<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)-september.org...
>>>>> In article<jhdhuv$3so$(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed), Geopelia
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Frank Williams"<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 02:27:02 +1300, "Geopelia"<(E-Mail Removed)>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Frank Williams"<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 18:30:00 +1300,
>>>>>>>>> "Geopelia"<(E-Mail Removed)>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "~misfit~"<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:jh73pg$ejp$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Geopelia wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "~misfit~"<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:jh47gi$vc5$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>>>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is the St John button dependant on the land-line? If so then I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that there's a possibility that you could get the land-line
>>>>>>>>>>>>> funded
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for you (and scratch all of the above<g>).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, Hubby's Disability Allowance pays for St John's button,
>>>>>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>>>>> $39 a fortnight.
>>>>>>>>>>>> They take the money from our bank each fortnight, and it is
>>>>>>>>>>>> added
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> his Super.
>>>>>>>>>>>> But we still pay for the landline.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Geo, try telling them that you can't afford the landline and it
>>>>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>> you'll have to go with pre-pay cell-phones. You never know, they
>>>>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>>>> pony up for the landline too.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I doubt it, we would be above any means test limit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Actually that's something I might look into. Hmm, maybe
>>>>>>>>>>> not..... I
>>>>>>>>>>> dunno,
>>>>>>>>>>> I just know that I don't drink, smoke and can't afford to
>>>>>>>>>>> socialise
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> the credit-card balance is *still* increasing (despite turning
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> hot
>>>>>>>>>>> water off for a spell..). I'm on pre-pay electricity too and I
>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>> it last to payday - or put it on the card again.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have a credit card, but only for my virus program and the odd
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> line
>>>>>>>>>> purchase.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> YOU DO NOT NEED TO PAY FOR ANY CRAP VIRUS PROGRAM.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would rather pay that than pay for the computer man to deal with
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> virus.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are plenty of Good Free ones, and from what has been reported
>>>>>>> yours is not that good at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The 2012 version is supposed to be good. We shall see.
>>>>>
>>>>> But when you can get the same or better protection for free???!@##@!?
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have a cite for your claim?
>>>>>
>>>>> c/net - http://download.cnet.com/Trend-Micro...ntiVirus-Plus-
>>>>> 2012/3000-18510_4-10440657.html
>>>>>
>>>>> "The bottom line: Following on last year's big overhaul, Trend Micro
>>>>> makes a series of smaller changes to this year's Titanium security
>>>>> suites. AntiVirus Plus contains the core features, but it's really on
>>>>> a
>>>>> level with free competitors--and that's a hard sell."
>>>>>
>>>>> c/net Australia - http://www.cnet.com.au/trend-micro-titanium-maximum-
>>>>> security-2012-339325555.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> "Conclusion
>>>>>
>>>>> Trend Micro leaped forward and took a risk in 2011. It didn't for the
>>>>> 2012 suites, but it didn't have to. Instead, 2012 sees a solid
>>>>> upgrade,
>>>>> with some clever new offerings. What holds back Trend Micro Titanium
>>>>> Maximum Security are its benchmarks. The lacklustre threat removal
>>>>> scores don't stand up against the more well-rounded competition, and
>>>>> the
>>>>> abysmal boot-time impact must be improved. If Titanium can polish
>>>>> those
>>>>> areas, then that would be showing some mettle we could really get
>>>>> behind."
>>>>>
>>>>> PC-Mag, Titanium AV -
>>>>> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2391344,00.asp
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bottom Line
>>>>> Trend Micro delivers on its promise of unobtrusive protection that's
>>>>> easy to use. The problem is, both PCMag's tests and some independent
>>>>> lab
>>>>> tests show that it just doesn't protect as well as the competition."
>>>>>
>>>>> PC-Mag, Titanium Maximum -
>>>>> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2391436,00.asp
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bottom Line
>>>>> This suite's backup and file sync feature is both powerful and
>>>>> flexible,
>>>>> vastly better than the average suite. Antispam is also great, and it
>>>>> offers a number of useful extras. However, its core antivirus
>>>>> protection
>>>>> rates poorly in my test and independent tests."
>>>>>
>>>>> PC-World -
>>>>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/24889..._internet_secu
>>>>>
>>>>> rity_2012_review_nofrills_pc_protection.html
>>>>>
>>>>> "I suggest giving Trend Micro Titanium Internet Security 2012 a look,
>>>>> but I can't give it an unequivocal "buy" recommendation based on its
>>>>> acceptable-but-not-outstanding malware detection and blocking rates."
>>>>>
>>>>> PC-Advisor -
>>>>> http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/s...3333261/trend-
>>>>> micro-titanium-maximum-security-2012-review/?tab=verdictTab#top
>>>>>
>>>>> "Trend Micro's flagship security suite received only an average rating
>>>>> from AV-Test, who found it good at stopping some Windows malware but
>>>>> poorer at removing it. In our tests we found the software was
>>>>> relatively
>>>>> slow at scanning and would appreciably delay some routine processes.
>>>>> This is a fair choice as an Internet Security suite, although it
>>>>> doesn't
>>>>> shine in any single area."
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> I've only got a home computer and Trend Micro seems to be working well.
>>>> It does take a while to load itself and do a scan, but I'm not in a
>>>> hurry.
>>>> It was included when I bought the computer years ago and they improve
>>>> it
>>>> every year or so.
>>>> If I have to get a new computer I'll see what else is around.
>>>>
>>>> I'm saving all the suggestions here, which are much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Geopelia
>>>
>>> Today, with the free AV products available - it just makes no sense to
>>> be *wasting* money on a paid for product, particularly on a home PC.
>>>
>>> Selling AV products to me, is like selling cheapish anti-zap/surge
>>> protection devices - to my way of thinking, it's just the shop getting
>>> more money off you on a PC product that they are not making much off.
>>> IE they are increasing their profit - AT YOUR EXPENSE. I can only
>>> presume they sold you one of those too
>>>
>>> I think we'e been over this before (paid for AV) - and the general
>>> consensus (did *anyone* on nz.comp recommend paid for AV? - I don't
>>> think so) was that it is an unecessary expense.
>>>
>>> But against all that advice, you continue to pay for your annual s/w
>>> subscription to an AV product that has been, and continues to be,
>>> inferior to its competition, including free AV products.
>>>
>>> More money than sense???
>>>

>>
>> You might find that Geo is a bit reluctant to mess too much with the
>> innards of the computer. Then have to get out her "computer man" to fix
>> it.
>>
>> So what about some of you more knowledgeable Aucklanders getting
>> yourselves organised and going over and sorting out Geo's machine. A lot
>> of you would live less than 15 miles away so it's not too far to go. You
>> might introduce her to AVG, Thunderbird and Firefox as well as maybe
>> check out the phone situation too.
>>
>> I'm sure a big chocolate cake at the end of the excercise would taste
>> twice as good as any you have ever tasted. :>)
>>
>>
>>
>>

> Well that never got off the ground.
>
> I would do something myself but
> 1: I am in Tauranga and
> 2:I don't have much knowledge/experience once you open up the box. I'm
> much more adept at tutoring on how to use the programs.
>
> So Geo it looks like you can ask any question you like, no matter how
> frivolous it may seem, and these guys will answer it for you rather than
> coming around and sorting it out.
>
>


I'm sure everybody means well, but having strangers come around is not a
good idea.


 
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      02-17-2012

"EMB" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On 17/02/2012 12:07 a.m., Geopelia wrote:
>>
>> I'm sure everybody means well, but having strangers come around is not a
>> good idea.

>
> You've been on Usenet for long enough and left enough "fingerprints"
> around that anyone who wishes to can find you Geo. It's not worth getting
> worried about though - the same applies to most of us here, and a fair few
> of us have made an active effort to catch up in real life.


Very likely. One lady found me by hunting through the telephone directory.
Nice of her.
I had a computer problem and people were concerned that I had stopped
posting for a while.

If I were a pretty teenager I might worry, but who would bother to chase a
cantankerous octogenarian?


 
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      02-18-2012
Somewhere on teh intarwebs Geopelia wrote:
> "EMB" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:jhl62d$gdq$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> On 17/02/2012 12:07 a.m., Geopelia wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm sure everybody means well, but having strangers come around is
>>> not a good idea.

>>
>> You've been on Usenet for long enough and left enough "fingerprints"
>> around that anyone who wishes to can find you Geo. It's not worth
>> getting worried about though - the same applies to most of us here,
>> and a fair few of us have made an active effort to catch up in real
>> life.

>
> Very likely. One lady found me by hunting through the telephone
> directory. Nice of her.
> I had a computer problem and people were concerned that I had stopped
> posting for a while.
>
> If I were a pretty teenager I might worry, but who would bother to
> chase a cantankerous octogenarian?


I tell you what, you cantankerous old octogenarian; I'd rather spend an hour
or so in your company than with a PYT (Pretty Young Thing). I find you kind,
educated and intelligent and would love to meet you.

However, as with EMB I'm too far away (Pukekohe in my case) and far too
broke.

<OT rant follows>

W&I took $11/week off me in Sept last and $30/week off me this week, said I
don't *need* the internet or a cell-phone (which only come to $20/week
anyway). I told them that, with a car that was made in 1985 it *really* pays
to have a cell-phone. Also that I'm such a sad-sack that the internet is
essentially my life, that I spend 5+ hours a day, every day I can get out of
bed on it. It's how I keep in touch with my family in Aus, how I save money
paying bills (rather than going in person). I educate myself and amuse
myself and it's also pretty much the only social life I have or can afford.
After I said all that the case-worker asked "Don't you have a library card?"
::facepalm::

Life's going to be *very* tough from now on. I already thought that it was,
and, since Sept. last have comtemplated my place in the universe as merely a
being who takes money from A and distributes it to B, C, D and E, without
actually *living*, not having many 'Kodak Moments', if any. Now this?
Perhaps it's time to check out. 85% of my life was struggle before, either
with finances or pain. Now it's going to be closer to 100%. There's no fun
in that. No 'living'. It's like they want me to kill myself or break the
law - but my back's not up to it.

</rant>

Be well Geo,
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long, way when religious belief has a
cozy little classification in the DSM."
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      02-18-2012

"~misfit~" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:jhmrbt$qdn$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Geopelia wrote:
>> "EMB" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:jhl62d$gdq$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> On 17/02/2012 12:07 a.m., Geopelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure everybody means well, but having strangers come around is
>>>> not a good idea.
>>>
>>> You've been on Usenet for long enough and left enough "fingerprints"
>>> around that anyone who wishes to can find you Geo. It's not worth
>>> getting worried about though - the same applies to most of us here,
>>> and a fair few of us have made an active effort to catch up in real
>>> life.

>>
>> Very likely. One lady found me by hunting through the telephone
>> directory. Nice of her.
>> I had a computer problem and people were concerned that I had stopped
>> posting for a while.
>>
>> If I were a pretty teenager I might worry, but who would bother to
>> chase a cantankerous octogenarian?

>
> I tell you what, you cantankerous old octogenarian; I'd rather spend an
> hour or so in your company than with a PYT (Pretty Young Thing). I find
> you kind, educated and intelligent and would love to meet you.
>
> However, as with EMB I'm too far away (Pukekohe in my case) and far too
> broke.
>
> <OT rant follows>
>
> W&I took $11/week off me in Sept last and $30/week off me this week, said
> I don't *need* the internet or a cell-phone (which only come to $20/week
> anyway). I told them that, with a car that was made in 1985 it *really*
> pays to have a cell-phone. Also that I'm such a sad-sack that the internet
> is essentially my life, that I spend 5+ hours a day, every day I can get
> out of bed on it. It's how I keep in touch with my family in Aus, how I
> save money paying bills (rather than going in person). I educate myself
> and amuse myself and it's also pretty much the only social life I have or
> can afford. After I said all that the case-worker asked "Don't you have a
> library card?" ::facepalm::
>
> Life's going to be *very* tough from now on. I already thought that it
> was, and, since Sept. last have comtemplated my place in the universe as
> merely a being who takes money from A and distributes it to B, C, D and E,
> without actually *living*, not having many 'Kodak Moments', if any. Now
> this? Perhaps it's time to check out. 85% of my life was struggle before,
> either with finances or pain. Now it's going to be closer to 100%. There's
> no fun in that. No 'living'. It's like they want me to kill myself or
> break the law - but my back's not up to it.
>
> </rant>
>
> Be well Geo,


(Very OT)

Thanks, you too.

We lived on sickness and invalid benefits for a while, years ago. We were
regarded with great suspicion on Sickness, but once we saw their doctor and
went on to Invalid they were nicer. Now we are superannuitants we manage OK.
I suppose with so many ripping off the system they have to be suspicious.
The young WINZ people may have just taken social work courses with little
life experience, and have no real idea of the problems people face.

Are you very far from superannuation?

I've got a blog, but haven't done much there for a while.
http://oenacapensis.blogspot.co.nz




 
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Dave Doe
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      02-18-2012
In article <jhn8c9$gup$(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed), Geopelia
says...
>
> "~misfit~" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:jhmrbt$qdn$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Somewhere on teh intarwebs Geopelia wrote:
> >> "EMB" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:jhl62d$gdq$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>> On 17/02/2012 12:07 a.m., Geopelia wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm sure everybody means well, but having strangers come around is
> >>>> not a good idea.
> >>>
> >>> You've been on Usenet for long enough and left enough "fingerprints"
> >>> around that anyone who wishes to can find you Geo. It's not worth
> >>> getting worried about though - the same applies to most of us here,
> >>> and a fair few of us have made an active effort to catch up in real
> >>> life.
> >>
> >> Very likely. One lady found me by hunting through the telephone
> >> directory. Nice of her.
> >> I had a computer problem and people were concerned that I had stopped
> >> posting for a while.
> >>
> >> If I were a pretty teenager I might worry, but who would bother to
> >> chase a cantankerous octogenarian?

> >
> > I tell you what, you cantankerous old octogenarian; I'd rather spend an
> > hour or so in your company than with a PYT (Pretty Young Thing). I find
> > you kind, educated and intelligent and would love to meet you.
> >
> > However, as with EMB I'm too far away (Pukekohe in my case) and far too
> > broke.
> >
> > <OT rant follows>
> >
> > W&I took $11/week off me in Sept last and $30/week off me this week, said
> > I don't *need* the internet or a cell-phone (which only come to $20/week
> > anyway). I told them that, with a car that was made in 1985 it *really*
> > pays to have a cell-phone. Also that I'm such a sad-sack that the internet
> > is essentially my life, that I spend 5+ hours a day, every day I can get
> > out of bed on it. It's how I keep in touch with my family in Aus, how I
> > save money paying bills (rather than going in person). I educate myself
> > and amuse myself and it's also pretty much the only social life I have or
> > can afford. After I said all that the case-worker asked "Don't you have a
> > library card?" ::facepalm::
> >
> > Life's going to be *very* tough from now on. I already thought that it
> > was, and, since Sept. last have comtemplated my place in the universe as
> > merely a being who takes money from A and distributes it to B, C, D and E,
> > without actually *living*, not having many 'Kodak Moments', if any. Now
> > this? Perhaps it's time to check out. 85% of my life was struggle before,
> > either with finances or pain. Now it's going to be closer to 100%. There's
> > no fun in that. No 'living'. It's like they want me to kill myself or
> > break the law - but my back's not up to it.
> >
> > </rant>
> >
> > Be well Geo,

>
> (Very OT)
>
> Thanks, you too.
>
> We lived on sickness and invalid benefits for a while, years ago. We were
> regarded with great suspicion on Sickness, but once we saw their doctor and
> went on to Invalid they were nicer. Now we are superannuitants we manage OK.
> I suppose with so many ripping off the system they have to be suspicious.
> The young WINZ people may have just taken social work courses with little
> life experience, and have no real idea of the problems people face.
>
> Are you very far from superannuation?
>
> I've got a blog, but haven't done much there for a while.
> http://oenacapensis.blogspot.co.nz



"God said "Let there be Light" is as good an explanation of the Big Bang
as any.
Something suddenly appearing out of nothing.(Well, a singularity,
whatever that is. God himself, perhaps?)"

Begs the question, of course! - what, or whom, created the Creator.

But what about another take... something *always* comes from nothing.
Nothing is 'unstable'. Check out Lawrence Krauss's vid (now that you
have broadband) - I hope you find it enlightening...

http://youtu.be/7ImvlS8PLIo

(you can scroll to the 2 minute mark if you want to skip Richard Dawkins
introduction).

--
Duncan.
 
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      02-18-2012
"Dave Doe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)-september.org...
> In article <jhn8c9$gup$(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed), Geopelia
> says...
>>
>> "~misfit~" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:jhmrbt$qdn$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Somewhere on teh intarwebs Geopelia wrote:
>> >> "EMB" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> news:jhl62d$gdq$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >>> On 17/02/2012 12:07 a.m., Geopelia wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm sure everybody means well, but having strangers come around is
>> >>>> not a good idea.
>> >>>
>> >>> You've been on Usenet for long enough and left enough "fingerprints"
>> >>> around that anyone who wishes to can find you Geo. It's not worth
>> >>> getting worried about though - the same applies to most of us here,
>> >>> and a fair few of us have made an active effort to catch up in real
>> >>> life.
>> >>
>> >> Very likely. One lady found me by hunting through the telephone
>> >> directory. Nice of her.
>> >> I had a computer problem and people were concerned that I had stopped
>> >> posting for a while.
>> >>
>> >> If I were a pretty teenager I might worry, but who would bother to
>> >> chase a cantankerous octogenarian?
>> >
>> > I tell you what, you cantankerous old octogenarian; I'd rather spend an
>> > hour or so in your company than with a PYT (Pretty Young Thing). I find
>> > you kind, educated and intelligent and would love to meet you.
>> >
>> > However, as with EMB I'm too far away (Pukekohe in my case) and far too
>> > broke.
>> >
>> > <OT rant follows>
>> >
>> > W&I took $11/week off me in Sept last and $30/week off me this week,
>> > said
>> > I don't *need* the internet or a cell-phone (which only come to
>> > $20/week
>> > anyway). I told them that, with a car that was made in 1985 it *really*
>> > pays to have a cell-phone. Also that I'm such a sad-sack that the
>> > internet
>> > is essentially my life, that I spend 5+ hours a day, every day I can
>> > get
>> > out of bed on it. It's how I keep in touch with my family in Aus, how I
>> > save money paying bills (rather than going in person). I educate myself
>> > and amuse myself and it's also pretty much the only social life I have
>> > or
>> > can afford. After I said all that the case-worker asked "Don't you have
>> > a
>> > library card?" ::facepalm::
>> >
>> > Life's going to be *very* tough from now on. I already thought that it
>> > was, and, since Sept. last have comtemplated my place in the universe
>> > as
>> > merely a being who takes money from A and distributes it to B, C, D and
>> > E,
>> > without actually *living*, not having many 'Kodak Moments', if any. Now
>> > this? Perhaps it's time to check out. 85% of my life was struggle
>> > before,
>> > either with finances or pain. Now it's going to be closer to 100%.
>> > There's
>> > no fun in that. No 'living'. It's like they want me to kill myself or
>> > break the law - but my back's not up to it.
>> >
>> > </rant>
>> >
>> > Be well Geo,

>>
>> (Very OT)
>>
>> Thanks, you too.
>>
>> We lived on sickness and invalid benefits for a while, years ago. We were
>> regarded with great suspicion on Sickness, but once we saw their doctor
>> and
>> went on to Invalid they were nicer. Now we are superannuitants we manage
>> OK.
>> I suppose with so many ripping off the system they have to be suspicious.
>> The young WINZ people may have just taken social work courses with little
>> life experience, and have no real idea of the problems people face.
>>
>> Are you very far from superannuation?
>>
>> I've got a blog, but haven't done much there for a while.
>> http://oenacapensis.blogspot.co.nz

>
>
> "God said "Let there be Light" is as good an explanation of the Big Bang
> as any.
> Something suddenly appearing out of nothing.(Well, a singularity,
> whatever that is. God himself, perhaps?)"
>
> Begs the question, of course! - what, or whom, created the Creator.


Now that is an interesting idea! But aren't we supposed to believe that God
has always been there?

>But what about another take... something *always* comes from nothing.
> Nothing is 'unstable'. Check out Lawrence Krauss's vid (now that you
> have broadband) - I hope you find it enlightening...
>
> http://youtu.be/7ImvlS8PLIo
>
> (you can scroll to the 2 minute mark if you want to skip Richard Dawkins
> introduction).



Thank you.

What an amazing video! He makes it seem so simple for ignorant people like
me.
I'm rather baffled that universes are moving away faster than the speed of
light. I thought that was impossible.
Perhaps they are both moving at the speed of light but in opposite
directions?

He didn't talk about Higgs Boson, so I'm none the wiser about that. (Have
they found it yet?)

"Ex nihilo nihil fit" seems to have been disproved, if he's right.

I'll have a look at the other videos on that website later.



 
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      02-18-2012
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 01:05:03 +1300, Geopelia wrote:

> "Dave Doe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message


>>But what about another take... something *always* comes from nothing.
>> Nothing is 'unstable'. Check out Lawrence Krauss's vid (now that you
>> have broadband) - I hope you find it enlightening...
>>
>> http://youtu.be/7ImvlS8PLIo
>>
>> (you can scroll to the 2 minute mark if you want to skip Richard Dawkins
>> introduction).

>
> Thank you.
>
> What an amazing video! He makes it seem so simple for ignorant people like
> me.
> I'm rather baffled that universes are moving away faster than the speed of
> light. I thought that was impossible.
> Perhaps they are both moving at the speed of light but in opposite
> directions?
>
> He didn't talk about Higgs Boson, so I'm none the wiser about that. (Have
> they found it yet?)
>
> "Ex nihilo nihil fit" seems to have been disproved, if he's right.
>
> I'll have a look at the other videos on that website later.


try here Geo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTNQO...feature=relmfu

Sixty Symbols on youtube is a fun channel very informative



 
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