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>Please point us to what you are referring to.
Here.
http://shoes.heroku.com/manual/Installing.html

I have been reading the book "No Body Knows Shoes" and it seems to be
pretty simple and makes me wonder if shoes is really a complete GUI
program, or is simply for very simple stuff.

What are the limitation of using Shoes? I like it and even if there are
some limitations I will definitely give it a try.

Thanks a lot

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Hey there! Maintainer of Shoes here!

You don't need to install Ruby because Shoes is like its own Ruby
distribution. It comes with a Ruby 1.9.1 built inside of it.

> What are the limitation of using Shoes? I like it and even if there are
some limitations I will definitely give it a try.

The main limitation is that you can't use gems with C extensions. We've
included a few with Shoes: bloopsaphone, chipmunk, ftsearch, hpricot, json,
and squite3, but that's all you're going to get.

The second limitation is that Shoes can still be a bit strange in places.
I'm currently undergoing an effort to increase documentation and add tests,
but you can run into strange corners sometimes.

The last big limitation is that some larger Shoes programs can be a bit
unstable on Windows sometimes. I can't reproduce this myself, but Hackety
Hack (the largest Shoes program I know of) will just die on certain systems
after about 15 minutes of running. It has something to do with Ruby 1.9.1
and threads, and I'm working on it, but be aware of that. Smaller programs
seem to have no issues, and it's not on every system, just some.

With that said, Shoes is a lot of fun to code with, and you get all three
platforms for free, so... yeah!

Any other questions about Shoes, I'll be happy to answer them.

Thank you for your reply!

I'm currently trying it and as I said its way too easy, I like it.

What would you considere a small-big program?

I also heard that with shoes you can not create menus, like File, Save
as, Version etc. is this true?


Thanks a lot!

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Hi Fily,

> I also heard that with shoes you can not create menus,
> like File, Save as, Version etc. is this true?
Umm,... No.
You can use list_box like this:

Shoes.app do
list_box items: %w[File Save Version]
end

Or, you can write your original menu method with image or shape
elements of Shoes.

You can find lots of way in the ShoeBox: http://the-shoebox.org/

Cheers,
ashbb

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> I'm currently trying it and as I said its way too easy, I like it.
>

Glad to hear it.


> What would you considere a small-big program?
>

I dunno, a couple of hundred lines? Check out Hackety Hack, for example:
https://github.com/hacketyhack/hacketyhack


> I also heard that with shoes you can not create menus, like File, Save
> as, Version etc. is this true?
>

Yes, we don't have a good solution for this yet. Basically, cross-platform
menus are hard to do right, since they end up looking different on every
platform... ashbb's suggestion is how most Shoes apps handle such things.

Thank you all for your help!

>You can find lots of way in the ShoeBox: http://the-shoebox.org/
Thank you for the link.

>What would you considere a small-big program?

>I dunno, a couple of hundred lines? Check out Hackety Hack, for example:
>https://github.com/hacketyhack/hacketyhack



Are you saying that Hackety Hack is a perfect example of a program that
may unexpectedly quit after 15 minutes using it? Now, this is a Windows
problem only right?

Thanks

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> Are you saying that Hackety Hack is a perfect example of a program that
> may unexpectedly quit after 15 minutes using it?


heheh, yes, that may be what I'm referring to. :/ Working on it!


> Now, this is a Windows
> problem only right?
>

Yep. Flawless on my Mac and Linux. In fact, mostly flawless on my Windows,
too: it's only some configurations.

Thank you for your help!

There are currently 19 users using the application I described im my
original post and a little worried about stability since they are all
Windows users, I know its a small application but it can create up to
50,000 rectangle shapes.

Could this be a problem if I create it using Shoes?

Now, is it even possible to pack and distribute an application created
in Shoes?

Thanks a lot!

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> Could this be a problem if I create it using Shoes?
>

Only way to know for sure is to try.


> Now, is it even possible to pack and distribute an application created
> in Shoes?
>

Absolutely! There should be a 'package an app' screen on the main shoes
screen. It'll give you a .exe of your app.

Thanks a lot for your help!

I will try to create the app and see how it goes. Where can I ask future
questions about Shoes? I'm sure I will have some...

Thanks

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