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Hey, i'm trying to open a file, get the first line of the file, delete
that line from the file, and then close the file. Using ruby 1.8.6.

I've tried using

The_File = IO.readlines("public/languages/chinese/practice.txt")

&

The_File = open('public/languages/chinese/practice.txt','r+')

but i can't figure out the correct syntax for how to delete a line in a
file, and then save that file.
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Richard Schneeman wrote:
> Hey, i'm trying to open a file, get the first line of the file, delete
> that line from the file, and then close the file. Using ruby 1.8.6.
>
> I've tried using
>
> The_File = IO.readlines("public/languages/chinese/practice.txt")
>
> &
>
> The_File = open('public/languages/chinese/practice.txt','r+')
>
> but i can't figure out the correct syntax for how to delete a line in a
> file, and then save that file.

Simplest thing is to get it into memory like you did with readlines
above and write out the altered contents to a new file and then move it.
(I prefer File.readlines - although this is the same method either way).
Large files might require different treatment rather than slurping into
memory like that.

That being said, I'd be curious to hear how people use r+ mode.

Daniel
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That is one option...the reason i need to be able to delete lines, is
that i am running a rake task on a server, that i cannot easily modify
files, and I can't predict how long the rake task will time out. The
task takes entries from text based dictionaries and adds it to my DB,
the thing is, if i didn't delete the lines i've already added, everytime
i ran the task, (it has to be run multiple times due to timeouts) i
would only re-add the same lines. The deletion acts as a place holder of
sorts. I'll play around with your suggestion, and i'll let you know. If
anyone else has an alternate method...i'm all ears

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Richard Schneeman wrote:
>
>
>
> That is one option...the reason i need to be able to delete lines, is
> that i am running a rake task on a server, that i cannot easily modify
> files, and I can't predict how long the rake task will time out. The
> task takes entries from text based dictionaries and adds it to my DB,
> the thing is, if i didn't delete the lines i've already added, everytime
> i ran the task, (it has to be run multiple times due to timeouts) i
> would only re-add the same lines. The deletion acts as a place holder of
> sorts. I'll play around with your suggestion, and i'll let you know. If
> anyone else has an alternate method...i'm all ears

Its gross but it works

active_dictionary =
File.readlines("public/languages/chinese/practice.txt")

open('public/languages/chinese/practice.txt', 'w') do |file|
file.puts active_dictionary[1,active_dictionary.size]
end

Once again, i'm interested in different approaches, or something, not
quite so processor intensive
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Richard Schneeman wrote:
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> Its gross but it works

I don't know if it's all that gross. I have feeling this is
standard way to do it for apps and editors ie write out entire altered
content
after working with file in-memory using whatever scheme.
Different story if you're a database I guess.

Here is one scheme some text editors use:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gap_buffer
although it doesn't discuss file system/persistence issues.
Presumably when you hit the save button, the system writes
out to a new file (the gap buffer is not playing around with
the old file stream).

If you're just replacing stuff character for character, then
it seems ok to use the file stream (in r+ mode) or if you're
appending (or both); but deleting or inserting content seems
problematic - not sure it's possible let alone standardized.
Anyone want to weigh in here?


> Once again, i'm interested in different approaches, or something, not
> quite so processor intensive

If the file is really large, you can perhaps just move through the
stream till you get to the point where you want to start
then commence writing from the old stream to the new file stream.
May be ways to optimise it.

Sparse files and fixed line lengths ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparse_file

Maybe I've said enough wrong things to provoke a reacion
from someone else.

Daniel
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Richard Schneeman wrote:
> but i can't figure out the correct syntax for how to delete a line in a
> file, and then save that file.

tail +2 the_file > the_new_file

Not all problems are best solved with ruby

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Erik Hollensbe wrote:
> Not all problems are best solved with ruby

And sometimes the problems are not with the program but with the data
structure -- maybe a flat file isn't the right way to do things?

And... it's a lot easier to delete the *last* line of a file than the
first.

Just some thoughts.
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Dave Bass wrote:
> And... it's a lot easier to delete the *last* line of a file than the
> first.

I don't think this is actually true, can you explain further?

-Erik
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On Aug 25, 2008, at 4:07 AM, Erik Hollensbe wrote:

> Dave Bass wrote:
>> And... it's a lot easier to delete the *last* line of a file than the
>> first.
>
> I don't think this is actually true, can you explain further?
>
> -Erik


You can just truncate the file size. You don't have any subsequent
lines (bytes) to move into a new position within the file.

-Rob

Rob Biedenharn http://agileconsultingllc.com

Rob Biedenharn wrote:
> On Aug 25, 2008, at 4:07 AM, Erik Hollensbe wrote:
>
>> Dave Bass wrote:
>>> And... it's a lot easier to delete the *last* line of a file than the
>>> first.
>>
>> I don't think this is actually true, can you explain further?
>>
>> -Erik
>
>
> You can just truncate the file size. You don't have any subsequent
> lines (bytes) to move into a new position within the file.

How do you know which line is the last line?

Unless there's something I don't know, that involves reading the whole
file, or a combination of seek/read from the end until you find the last
newline, which is essentially what tail +2 does, but starts at the
beginning of the file.

"Moving" data in a file is the worst possible scenario for I/O at all.
You can do both of these operations in a single pass read of the file
without shoving the whole thing into memory at once. It just involves
writing to one file and reading from another, is all.
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