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Mathieu Blondel
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      10-07-2004
Hi all,

I would like to know if CMS programmed in Ruby exist ?

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MB
 
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Florian Weber
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      10-07-2004

On Oct 7, 2004, at 17:34 Uhr, Mathieu Blondel wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I would like to know if CMS programmed in Ruby exist ?


i just finished one. it's done with rails. it might take a while until
i release it to the public though..



 
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Kirk Haines
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      10-07-2004
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 00:34:46 +0900, Mathieu Blondel wrote
> Hi all,
>
> I would like to know if CMS programmed in Ruby exist ?


They exist. They may not be publically released, but they exist.

I have one. I have a bunch of legacy users who are on an old one written in
Perl. I have been converting it to Ruby with IOWA so that I could add new
features and generally make it better. It's not really something I plan to
release, though, in part because the conversion is only 1/2 done. Parts in
still Perl, and in part because even though it is in Ruby on a good
framework, it's still just a conversion and enhancement on a system that
won't win any awards for beauty or elegance.

Paul Vudmaska (paul, are you still lurking?) has a nice looking system that
he created for a bunch of his clients. It's done directly with
mod_ruby/eruby without the benefit of any other framework. That one is, or
was, publically available at some version. If Paul isn't listening, I'll
see if I can find out what the state of that is and report back.


Kirk Haines



 
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Mathieu Blondel
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      10-07-2004
> They exist. They may not be publically released, but they exist.

In fact, I would prefer to see public ones

> Paul Vudmaska (paul, are you still lurking?) has a nice looking system that
> he created for a bunch of his clients. It's done directly with
> mod_ruby/eruby without the benefit of any other framework. That one is, or
> was, publically available at some version. If Paul isn't listening, I'll
> see if I can find out what the state of that is and report back.


I may end up to do a CMS for my site and in this case I would release it
publically.

I think I wouldn't use big frameworks either.

Some features I need would be :
- XML based structures content
- Good metadata system
- Roles and rights (abouts users and files)
- i18n
- workflows
- versionning
- groupware
 
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gabriele renzi
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      10-07-2004
Florian Weber ha scritto:


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> i just finished one. it's done with rails. it might take a while until
> i release it to the public though..


release early release often!
Ju7st make it really clear is alpha quality
 
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Eric Hodel
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      10-09-2004
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On Oct 7, 2004, at 10:04 AM, Mathieu Blondel wrote:

> > They exist. They may not be publically released, but they exist.


ZenWeb - http://zenspider.com/ZSS/Products/ZenWeb/index.html

Long in existence.

> In fact, I would prefer to see public ones
>
>> Paul Vudmaska (paul, are you still lurking?) has a nice looking
>> system that he created for a bunch of his clients. It's done
>> directly with mod_ruby/eruby without the benefit of any other
>> framework. That one is, or was, publically available at some
>> version. If Paul isn't listening, I'll see if I can find out what
>> the state of that is and report back.

>
> I may end up to do a CMS for my site and in this case I would release
> it publically.
>
> I think I wouldn't use big frameworks either.
>
> Some features I need would be :
> - XML based structures content


You really don't want this. Really.

ZenWeb works with plain text files with simple markup, much easier to
edit.

> - Good metadata system


ZenWeb has an awesome hierarchical metadata system. Truly, truly
awesome. (Truly.)

> - Roles and rights (abouts users and files)


Since ZenWeb is based on files, you can control this at the FS level.

> - i18n


Tricky, but possible with the nifty renderers ZenWeb has.

> - workflows


Not built-in.

> - versionning


CVS.

> - groupware


What does this mean?

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Mathieu Blondel
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      10-09-2004

>
>> - Roles and rights (abouts users and files)

>
>
> Since ZenWeb is based on files, you can control this at the FS level.


Not great if you have thousand of users...

>> - groupware

>
>
> What does this mean?


forums, calendars, notes, tasks to allow people to work together
 
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(Curne) Simon Conrad-Armes
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      10-10-2004

On Oct 9, 2004, at 3:24 AM, Eric Hodel wrote:

> On Oct 7, 2004, at 10:04 AM, Mathieu Blondel wrote:
>
>> > They exist. They may not be publically released, but they exist.

>
> ZenWeb - http://zenspider.com/ZSS/Products/ZenWeb/index.html
>
> Long in existence.
>
>> In fact, I would prefer to see public ones
>>
>>> Paul Vudmaska (paul, are you still lurking?) has a nice looking
>>> system that he created for a bunch of his clients. It's done
>>> directly with mod_ruby/eruby without the benefit of any other
>>> framework. That one is, or was, publically available at some
>>> version. If Paul isn't listening, I'll see if I can find out what
>>> the state of that is and report back.

>>
>> I may end up to do a CMS for my site and in this case I would release
>> it publically.
>>
>> I think I wouldn't use big frameworks either.
>>
>> Some features I need would be :
>> - XML based structures content

>
> You really don't want this. Really.


That's a tad arrogant, isn't it? If poster needs XML structured
content, that is what he needs. I too would consider it requirement of
a good CMS to have a good understanding of XML and namespaces.

> ZenWeb works with plain text files with simple markup, much easier to
> edit.
>


Depends on what tools you are using.

>> - Good metadata system

>
> ZenWeb has an awesome hierarchical metadata system. Truly, truly
> awesome. (Truly.)
>
>> - Roles and rights (abouts users and files)

>
> Since ZenWeb is based on files, you can control this at the FS level.
>


This is far too impractical for large numbers of files. You would end
up implementing chmod interface for it anyhow and it would be hell to
track and display nicely.

>> - i18n

>
> Tricky, but possible with the nifty renderers ZenWeb has.
>
>> - workflows

>
> Not built-in.
>
>> - versionning

>
> CVS.
>
>> - groupware

>
> What does this mean?
>



Personally I think Bricollage (written in perl, http://bricolage.cc/)
has a nice feature set. If something like it existed in Ruby I would
certainly use it.

/Curne



 
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