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Bruce Sinclair
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      12-06-2011
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/(E-Mail Removed) (Your Name) wrote:
>In article <jbhfjp$rd6$(E-Mail Removed)>,
>(E-Mail Removed) nz (Bruce Sinclair) wrote:
>
>> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Mutlley

><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> (snip)
>> >
>> >You do have this bee in your bonnet about Telecom don't you..

>>
>> Well, to be fair, they have repeatedly shown themselves to be scum.

>
>No more so than most other "big business" companies, especially when in
>monopolistic situations.


Actually, I reckon telecon lead the pack for years in the scum stakes.
Now, yes I think they are sort of average scumminess again ... but let's see
if that continues shall we ?

 
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Bruce Sinclair
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      12-06-2011
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed) (Your Name) wrote:
>In article <jbi1mv$bvg$(E-Mail Removed)>, EMB <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> On 5/12/2011 6:16 p.m., Your Name wrote:
>> > In article<jbhfjp$rd6$(E-Mail Removed)>,
>> > (E-Mail Removed) (Bruce Sinclair) wrote:
>> >> In article<(E-Mail Removed) >, Mutlley
>> > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> >> (snip)
>> >>>
>> >>> You do have this bee in your bonnet about Telecom don't you..
>> >>
>> >> Well, to be fair, they have repeatedly shown themselves to be scum.
>> >
>> > No more so than most other "big business" companies, especially when in
>> > monopolistic situations.

>>
>> It's not really monopolistic any more. SCC is not charging
>> outrageously[1] any more and Telecom are starting to wake up and smell
>> the coffee too now that they have separated from the lines business.
>>
>> [1] I am replacing the capped corporate internet connection we currently
>> have (800GB/month @ 10Mb/s) with an uncapped 100Mb/s offering for just
>> under half the current cost. The actual cost is commercially sensitive
>> but is low enough that I'm considering grabbing another connection and
>> reselling it to other businesses in the immediate area.

>
>Telecom hasn't been separated from anything. It still the same old company
>doing the same old hopeless monopolistic job ... just now using a
>different name. Nothing is going to change.


... *except*, they have been better behaved in the last year or so beacuse
they wanted the fiber work ? Once they have that sewn up, do you think
they'll revert to type ?



 
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Bruce Sinclair
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      12-06-2011
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Mutlley <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>(E-Mail Removed) (Your Name) wrote:

(snip)
>>Telecom hasn't been separated from anything. It still the same old company
>>doing the same old hopeless monopolistic job ... just now using a
>>different name. Nothing is going to change.

>
>So how do you feel about Sky TV then??


Only organisation higher than telecon in the 'scummy' stakes IMO ! - and I
have nothing to do with them other than trying to get them to stop calling
me.




 
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      12-06-2011
In article <jbjbus$5ji$(E-Mail Removed)>, victor <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> On 6/12/2011 9:09 a.m., Your Name wrote:
> > In article<jbhsml$bj1$(E-Mail Removed)>, victor<(E-Mail Removed)>

wrote:
> >>
> >> Not only that but a large propensity for making **** up.
> >> It only takes a minute to find out that SCC isn't a single cable but a 2
> >> cable figure 8 system that enters both sides of the country and is
> >> wholesaled by companies who aggregate global networks of marine cables.
> >> Once there is more on demand content in the cloud and people are only
> >> shifting the volume they use rather than trading gigabyte collections,
> >> demand will smooth to where caps become redundant. The capacity of SCC
> >> has doubled and is about to double again due to advances in physics and
> >> engineering. The price has always been coming downwards and the
> >> difference across the globe evening out.

> >
> > Oh dear, here we go with the pendadtic morons again. If you really want to
> > be pedantic, then there's not one "cable", there's hundreds of fibre-optic
> > cables in the bundle. Who cares, another topic to stop wasting my time on
> > - believe whatever crap you want to delude yourself with. :-\

>
> Your comprehension skills are pathetic.
> You got it wrong again, there are completely separate SCC cable routes.
> You are wasting your time here opining on subjects you know nothing
> about. Even the limited number of posters here will call you on it.


Whatever utter crap you want to delude yourself with. :-\
 
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      12-06-2011
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Mutlley
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> (E-Mail Removed) (Your Name) wrote:
> >In article <jbi1mv$bvg$(E-Mail Removed)>, EMB <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >> On 5/12/2011 6:16 p.m., Your Name wrote:
> >> > In article<jbhfjp$rd6$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> >> > (E-Mail Removed) (Bruce Sinclair) wrote:
> >> >> In article<(E-Mail Removed) >, Mutlley
> >> > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >> >> (snip)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> You do have this bee in your bonnet about Telecom don't you..
> >> >>
> >> >> Well, to be fair, they have repeatedly shown themselves to be

scum.
> >> >
> >> > No more so than most other "big business" companies, especially when in
> >> > monopolistic situations.
> >>
> >> It's not really monopolistic any more. SCC is not charging
> >> outrageously[1] any more and Telecom are starting to wake up and smell
> >> the coffee too now that they have separated from the lines business.
> >>
> >> [1] I am replacing the capped corporate internet connection we currently
> >> have (800GB/month @ 10Mb/s) with an uncapped 100Mb/s offering for just
> >> under half the current cost. The actual cost is commercially sensitive
> >> but is low enough that I'm considering grabbing another connection and
> >> reselling it to other businesses in the immediate area.

> >
> >Telecom hasn't been separated from anything. It still the same old company
> >doing the same old hopeless monopolistic job ... just now using a
> >different name. Nothing is going to change.

>
> So how do you feel about Sky TV then??


With TV you have a choice os whether or not to use Sky - you can choose
ExpensiveView instead (although with the way channels are being flushed
down the toilet, that choice may not be around for much longer) or simply
buy DVDs or watch online.

With telephone, internet and mobile services you have no such choice. Even
though you can choose which company you personally pay, they all HAVE to
use Telecom's infrastructure somewhere along the line, so there's no
avoiding it (other than not using a telephone / internet at all).
 
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Frank Williams
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      12-06-2011
On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 21:46:38 +1300, Dave Doe <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
>(E-Mail Removed), Frank Williams says...
>>
>> On Mon, 05 Dec 2011 13:38:26 +1300, Stephen Worthington
>> <(E-Mail Removed)34.nz56.remove_numbers> wrote:
>>
>> >On Mon, 05 Dec 2011 09:20:47 +1300, (E-Mail Removed) (Your Name)
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>In article <jbf7k2$33n$(E-Mail Removed)>, EMB <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:


>> A OECD Internet Comps expert that was over here recently stated that the
>> so called Southern Cross cost were a total rip of and just a Big Con so
>> they can charge very high prices here..
>>
>>
>> I think he quoted a ISP's in France charging some $40 ? uncapped and 26
>> TV channels.
>>
>> I think I have the MP3 sound track taken off Radio NZ..

>
>Good on yer. But what's the link to it so others can check it out?



Found it.

Dr Taylor Reynolds is an OECD economist who specialises in
telecommunication and broadcast markets.


http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/pr...communications
 
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      12-06-2011
On 6/12/2011 9:09 a.m., Your Name threw some characters down the intarwebs:
> In article <jbhsml$bj1$(E-Mail Removed)>, victor <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>> Not only that but a large propensity for making **** up.
>> It only takes a minute to find out that SCC isn't a single cable but a 2
>> cable figure 8 system that enters both sides of the country and is
>> wholesaled by companies who aggregate global networks of marine cables.
>> Once there is more on demand content in the cloud and people are only
>> shifting the volume they use rather than trading gigabyte collections,
>> demand will smooth to where caps become redundant. The capacity of SCC
>> has doubled and is about to double again due to advances in physics and
>> engineering. The price has always been coming downwards and the
>> difference across the globe evening out.

>
> Oh dear, here we go with the pendadtic morons again. If you really want to
> be pedantic, then there's not one "cable", there's hundreds of fibre-optic
> cables in the bundle. Who cares, another topic to stop wasting my time on
> - believe whatever crap you want to delude yourself with. :-\


A pedantic prat would point out that the bundle is called a cable, and
its made up of several cores. In the case of the SCC, thats 6 or 8
fibre optic cores, and some copper ones for power to the repeaters.

Certainly not hundreds, but hey, whatever crap you want to delude
yourself with. :-\
 
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      12-06-2011
In article <jbk67f$q4f$(E-Mail Removed)>, Squiggle <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> On 6/12/2011 9:09 a.m., Your Name threw some characters down the intarwebs:
> > In article <jbhsml$bj1$(E-Mail Removed)>, victor

<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >>
> >> Not only that but a large propensity for making **** up.
> >> It only takes a minute to find out that SCC isn't a single cable but a 2
> >> cable figure 8 system that enters both sides of the country and is
> >> wholesaled by companies who aggregate global networks of marine cables.
> >> Once there is more on demand content in the cloud and people are only
> >> shifting the volume they use rather than trading gigabyte collections,
> >> demand will smooth to where caps become redundant. The capacity of SCC
> >> has doubled and is about to double again due to advances in physics and
> >> engineering. The price has always been coming downwards and the
> >> difference across the globe evening out.

> >
> > Oh dear, here we go with the pendadtic morons again. If you really want to
> > be pedantic, then there's not one "cable", there's hundreds of fibre-optic
> > cables in the bundle. Who cares, another topic to stop wasting my time on
> > - believe whatever crap you want to delude yourself with. :-\

>
> A pedantic prat would point out that the bundle is called a cable, and
> its made up of several cores. In the case of the SCC, thats 6 or 8
> fibre optic cores, and some copper ones for power to the repeaters.
>
> Certainly not hundreds, but hey, whatever crap you want to delude
> yourself with. :-\


It wasn't meant to be an accurate count. :-\
 
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      12-06-2011
On 6/12/2011 6:13 p.m., Your Name wrote:
> In article<jbk67f$q4f$(E-Mail Removed)>, Squiggle<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:


>>
>> A pedantic prat would point out that the bundle is called a cable, and
>> its made up of several cores. In the case of the SCC, thats 6 or 8
>> fibre optic cores, and some copper ones for power to the repeaters.
>>
>> Certainly not hundreds, but hey, whatever crap you want to delude
>> yourself with. :-\

>
> It wasn't meant to be an accurate count. :-\


Whatever utter crap you want to delude yourself with. :-\
 
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Squiggle
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      12-06-2011
On 6/12/2011 6:13 p.m., Your Name threw some characters down the intarwebs:
> In article <jbk67f$q4f$(E-Mail Removed)>, Squiggle <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> On 6/12/2011 9:09 a.m., Your Name threw some characters down the intarwebs:
>>> In article <jbhsml$bj1$(E-Mail Removed)>, victor

> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Not only that but a large propensity for making **** up.
>>>> It only takes a minute to find out that SCC isn't a single cable but a 2
>>>> cable figure 8 system that enters both sides of the country and is
>>>> wholesaled by companies who aggregate global networks of marine cables.
>>>> Once there is more on demand content in the cloud and people are only
>>>> shifting the volume they use rather than trading gigabyte collections,
>>>> demand will smooth to where caps become redundant. The capacity of SCC
>>>> has doubled and is about to double again due to advances in physics and
>>>> engineering. The price has always been coming downwards and the
>>>> difference across the globe evening out.
>>>
>>> Oh dear, here we go with the pendadtic morons again. If you really want to
>>> be pedantic, then there's not one "cable", there's hundreds of fibre-optic
>>> cables in the bundle. Who cares, another topic to stop wasting my time on
>>> - believe whatever crap you want to delude yourself with. :-\

>>
>> A pedantic prat would point out that the bundle is called a cable, and
>> its made up of several cores. In the case of the SCC, thats 6 or 8
>> fibre optic cores, and some copper ones for power to the repeaters.
>>
>> Certainly not hundreds, but hey, whatever crap you want to delude
>> yourself with. :-\

>
> It wasn't meant to be an accurate count. :-\


Translation: I shot my mouth off without the faintest f'n clue what I
was on about* and got called on it, now I'm back-pedalling at 100mph.

*Just like your comments about copyright contracts and Telstra's traffic
being relayed over Chorus/Telecoms network.
 
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