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I have a Web application that is written in ASP. It runs well on regular PC.
What is needed to make it run on PDA (wireless)? I want to buy a new PDA to
test the application. Is there a particular brand of PDA or operating system
that I should buy? Thanks.

displayname <> wrote:

>I have a Web application that is written in ASP. It runs well on regular PC.
>What is needed to make it run on PDA (wireless)? I want to buy a new PDA to
>test the application. Is there a particular brand of PDA or operating system
>that I should buy? Thanks.

ASP runs on the web server, not the client. What kind of client you
use to access the server should make no difference to the app.

--
Tim Slattery
MS MVP(Shell/User)

http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

Tim, are you saying that I don't need to change any thing in my code and the
application will run on PDA as if it runs on IE7 on my PC? What about the
font size? May be I need to change all font size to smaller and make the page
a lot smaller so it can fit on PDA screen, right? But then I want to page to
be big to fill the enter screen on my PC. What's the code for detecting
whether it's PDA or PC in order to change the font size and page size
accordingly?

Which PDA (what features...) do you recommend me purchase to test out the
app? Thanks.

"Tim Slattery" wrote:

> displayname <> wrote:
>
> >I have a Web application that is written in ASP. It runs well on regular PC.
> >What is needed to make it run on PDA (wireless)? I want to buy a new PDA to
> >test the application. Is there a particular brand of PDA or operating system
> >that I should buy? Thanks.
>
> ASP runs on the web server, not the client. What kind of client you
> use to access the server should make no difference to the app.
>
> --
> Tim Slattery
> MS MVP(Shell/User)
>
> http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
>

displayname <> wrote:

>Tim, are you saying that I don't need to change any thing in my code and the
>application will run on PDA as if it runs on IE7 on my PC? What about the
>font size? May be I need to change all font size to smaller and make the page
>a lot smaller so it can fit on PDA screen, right? But then I want to page to
>be big to fill the enter screen on my PC. What's the code for detecting
>whether it's PDA or PC in order to change the font size and page size
>accordingly?

There might be something in the USER_AGENT string
(request.ServerVariables("HTTP_USER_AGENT") ). I don't think the
server will get any other indication of what the client is.

--
Tim Slattery
MS MVP(Shell/User)

http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

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<> writing in
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> Tim, are you saying that I don't need to change any thing in my code
> and the application will run on PDA as if it runs on IE7 on my PC?

ASP knows nothing about the client, whether it's a browser, PDA, phone,
or refrigerator.

> What about the font size? May be I need to change all font size to
> smaller and make the page a lot smaller so it can fit on PDA screen,
> right?

No, let the user's UA decide what font size to use. Do not set a font
size at all.

> But then I want to page to be big to fill the enter screen on
> my PC.

You might want to look at the @media directive for CSS, @media screen,
@media handheld, @media print, etc., eg:

@media screen /* for browsers */
{
body {font-size:95%}
}

@media handheld
{
body {font-size:100%}
}

@media print
{
body {font-size:10pt}
#nav {display:none}
}

> What's the code for detecting whether it's PDA or PC in order
> to change the font size and page size accordingly?

As others have said, look at the UA string. You might want to see if
you can find a simulator. There is a phone simulator from Openwave that
can get you started.

>
> Which PDA (what features...) do you recommend me purchase to test out
> the app? Thanks.
>
> "Tim Slattery" wrote:
>
>> displayname <> wrote:
>>
>> >I have a Web application that is written in ASP. It runs well on
>> >regular PC. What is needed to make it run on PDA (wireless)? I want
>> >to buy a new PDA to test the application. Is there a particular
>> >brand of PDA or operating system that I should buy? Thanks.
>>
>> ASP runs on the web server, not the client. What kind of client you
>> use to access the server should make no difference to the app.
>>
>> --
>> Tim Slattery
>> MS MVP(Shell/User)
>>
>> http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
>>



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displayname wrote:
> I have a Web application that is written in ASP. It runs well on regular PC.
> What is needed to make it run on PDA (wireless)? I want to buy a new PDA to
> test the application. Is there a particular brand of PDA or operating system
> that I should buy? Thanks.

I have done this before, we have mobile 2006 PDAs that run IE, my ASP
applications (for stock takes as the PDAs have barcode scanners) work
very well on this platform.

I make the page the right size for the PDAs, but could have used a
different CSS file for it if I wanted to use on normal PCs.

The application also logs onto the local domain to pass the user into
the application. That works well too.

Steve

Adrienne Boswell wrote on 17 jun 2008 in
microsoft.public.inetserver.asp.general:

> ASP knows nothing about the client, whether it's a browser, PDA, phone,
> or refrigerator.

Use ASAP:

<% Mail = "More Ice, ASAP!"%>
<a href='mailto:refrigerator@me?subject=<%=Mail%>&bod y=<%=Mail%>'>
Hot, hot!</a>

--
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

Adrienne Boswell wrote on 17 jun 2008 in
microsoft.public.inetserver.asp.general:

> @media handheld
> {
> body {font-size:100%}
>}
>

Seems to be working according to:
<http://www.codestyle.org/css/media/handheld-BrowserSummary.shtml>

Anyone with practical experience?

--
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

Thank you all for replying. Let me see if I understand you correctly.

Use request.ServerVariables("HTTP_USER_AGENT") to determine the kind of
client.
If the client is PDA, then use the @media handheld {body {font-size:100%}}
style
to display a smaller font size.
If the client is PC, then use @media screen {body {font-size:95%}} style for
bigger font size.

Shouldn't the font size for PDA be 95% (for smaller font) and for PC be 100%
(for bigger font)?

I thought the user agent only lets you know whether it's "Mozilla/2.0" or IE
kind of information. It doesn't tell you whether the client is PDA or PC
which I need to know.



"Dooza" wrote:
> I have done this before, we have mobile 2006 PDAs that run IE, my ASP
> applications (for stock takes as the PDAs have barcode scanners) work
> very well on this platform.

So PDA can have IE, that's good.

> I make the page the right size for the PDAs, but could have used a
> different CSS file for it if I wanted to use on normal PCs.

So you do change the font size for the PDA.

> The application also logs onto the local domain to pass the user into
> the application. That works well too.

That sounds like I need to do something additional to make the ASP
application pass the user into the app? I thought everyone else said I
wouldn't have to change any thing and the app would run on any client (like
PDA) because ASP runs on the server. My app uses IIS with Integrated
authentication. IIS authenticates the user passes the user id to the app. I
want it to continue doing the same thing in PDA. Do I need to change any
thing?

I have one more question regarding wireless network for the PDA. Do I need
to have a port open on the app server or on the wireless network to allow the
app to run on the PDA wirelessly? I've never worked with wireless nor PDA and
have no clue how things work in that environment.

displayname wrote:
> Thank you all for replying. Let me see if I understand you correctly.
>
> Use request.ServerVariables("HTTP_USER_AGENT") to determine the kind of
> client.
> If the client is PDA, then use the @media handheld {body {font-size:100%}}
> style

You don't need to detect the user agent string, just use:

<LINK rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" media="handheld" href="handheld.css">
<LINK rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" media="screen" href="screen.css">

http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/media.html

Steve