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The problem of creating files, as any real problem, got sorted itself out.
Just a moment ago about 20 files which I tried to create fior the previous
three hours suddenly appeared where they were expected to appear.
I do not know where ther were delayed - I monitor the folder content using
and FTP programme.
Either the FTP did not see these files, or the server delayed placing the
file into the folder. One thin is for sure - the names of the files are made
of the date and the time they are created - and all these names exactly
metched the files' date and time

Still no sign of emails sent - perhaps they are too somewhere in the
pipeline - perhaps I should wait till tomorrow. Meanwhile thank you
everybody who replied.


<aa> wrote in message news:%...
> It might be relevant - I've just discovered that the FileSystemObject on
the
> same w2k ISP server behaves the same way as CDONTS - produces no error and
> no result as if it is ignored.
> It is supposed to create a file on the server, and although the code runs
> without producing error messages, no file is created. It obviously worked
> earlier and I still have several files streated previously.
>
> Is FileSystemObject, like CDONTS, also dependent on some other service
> which might be disabled?
>
>
>
> <aa> wrote in message news:%...
> > I did a working code with CDONTS on NT4
> > Now I am testing is on w2k and it looks like objCDONTS.Send is
completely
> > ignored.
> >
> > I think is it ignored because it throws no errors, neither does the rest
> of
> > the code setting
> > objCDONTS=Server.CreateObject("CDONTS.NewMail") and then manipulating
its
> > properties.
> >
> > Do I need to somehow set IIS5 to make objCDONTS.Send work?
> >
> >
>
>

It certainly couldn't hurt to post the example code snippets here so that
others can execute the same code and post the results.

Ray at work

<aa> wrote in message news:...
> Thanks, Ray.
> The approach you are describing in that many words is well known as
"Problem
> Isolation" and of course, I have tried it while waiting comments from
> colleagues in here.
> CDONTS usage is well documented. I cut and pasted an example and run it
> alone without any databases you mention - same result. Same about
> Microsoft.XMLDOM
> I do not think I need to post these examples for discussions in here,
don't
> I?
>

Thanks, Curt, it was the most useful.
On my local PC all my messages are there, so as Ray suggested, I have to
look at SMTP.
Obviously I cannot check these folders on my ISP server. Perhaps they
changed SMTP settings


"Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_darkfalz.com> wrote in message
news:%...
> CDONTS is not the same thing as SMTP
> CDONTS is an interface TO the SMTP service.
> Look in your c:\inetpub\mailroot folder tree for the message(s) you wrote.
> If they are in there then CDONTS did it's part and SMTP isn't confiugred
> right.
>
> --
> Curt Christianson
> Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
> www.Darkfalz.com
>
>
> <aa> wrote in message news:%...
> > So the problem should be with SMTP, as Ray suggested
> >
> > Also it means that on a local PC is is not supposed to work without SMTP
> > tuning, unless it gets installed and tuned by default during
installation
> > of w2k Pro -does it?
> >
> > "Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_darkfalz.com> wrote in message
> > news:O3vg$...
> > > Up through Win2k it was included. It's now gone from the OS.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Curt Christianson
> > > Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
> > > www.Darkfalz.com
> > >
> > >
> > > <aa> wrote in message news:...
> > > > Thanks, I'll try.
> > > > But one thing puzzles me - in one plase your resouce says CDONTS is
> > > > depricated and not shipped with Windows, whereas in another place is
> > said
> > > > that it is suppoerted by w2000 and is included in OS
> > > >
> > > > As it does not cause error, I suppose it is included in 2000
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <> wrote in message
> > > > news:09f701c3d528$d0860cc0$...
> > > > >
> > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > >I did a working code with CDONTS on NT4
> > > > > >Now I am testing is on w2k and it looks like
> > > > > objCDONTS.Send is completely
> > > > > >ignored.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I think is it ignored because it throws no errors,
> > > > > neither does the rest of
> > > > > >the code setting
> > > > > >objCDONTS=Server.CreateObject("CDONTS.NewMail") and then
> > > > > manipulating its
> > > > > >properties.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Do I need to somehow set IIS5 to make objCDONTS.Send
> > > > > work?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >.
> > > > > >
> > > > > If on Win 2000 use cdo. See this
> > > > > http://www.aspfaq.com/show.asp?id=2026
> > > > >
> > > > > HTH
> > > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

It turns out that you were right about SMTP, at least in respect of my local
PC.

I followed SMTP link you offered and found a good MS SMTP Help file.
The proble is it is so good and detailed that to study it is a separate
project.
My concern is, whether OutlookExpress which is working fine for the moment,
relies on SMTP settings.
if I start experimenting with SMTP, is there a chanse of OutlookExpress
prtests and go on strike?



"Ray at <%=sLocation%>" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
news:%...
> What makes you think it's being ignored? If it's because you didn't
receive
> an e-mail, look into issues with SMTP. All that CDONTS does is generate a
> text file in e-mail format and put it in the SMTP server's pickup
directory.
> From that point on, it's up to SMTP to send the e-mail.
>
> Ray at work
>
> <aa> wrote in message news:%...
> > I did a working code with CDONTS on NT4
> > Now I am testing is on w2k and it looks like objCDONTS.Send is
completely
> > ignored.
> >
> > I think is it ignored because it throws no errors, neither does the rest
> of
> > the code setting
> > objCDONTS=Server.CreateObject("CDONTS.NewMail") and then manipulating
its
> > properties.
> >
> > Do I need to somehow set IIS5 to make objCDONTS.Send work?
> >
> >
>
>

Chances are that you use your ISP's SMTP server in OE, not your own internal
one. So, if that's the case, no, it won't affect OE.

Ray at home

<aa> wrote in message news:...
> It turns out that you were right about SMTP, at least in respect of my
local
> PC.
>
> I followed SMTP link you offered and found a good MS SMTP Help file.
> The proble is it is so good and detailed that to study it is a separate
> project.
> My concern is, whether OutlookExpress which is working fine for the
moment,
> relies on SMTP settings.
> if I start experimenting with SMTP, is there a chanse of OutlookExpress
> prtests and go on strike?

Thanks
How can I check if I use my ISP's SMTP server in OE ?

"Ray at <%=sLocation%>" <myFirstNameATlane34dotKOMM> wrote in message
news:...
> Chances are that you use your ISP's SMTP server in OE, not your own
internal
> one. So, if that's the case, no, it won't affect OE.
>
> Ray at home
>
> <aa> wrote in message news:...
> > It turns out that you were right about SMTP, at least in respect of my
> local
> > PC.
> >
> > I followed SMTP link you offered and found a good MS SMTP Help file.
> > The proble is it is so good and detailed that to study it is a separate
> > project.
> > My concern is, whether OutlookExpress which is working fine for the
> moment,
> > relies on SMTP settings.
> > if I start experimenting with SMTP, is there a chanse of OutlookExpress
> > prtests and go on strike?
>
>

Tools--Accounts.............

Ray at work

<aa> wrote in message news:...
> Thanks
> How can I check if I use my ISP's SMTP server in OE ?
>
> "Ray at <%=sLocation%>" <myFirstNameATlane34dotKOMM> wrote in message
> news:...
> > Chances are that you use your ISP's SMTP server in OE, not your own
> internal
> > one. So, if that's the case, no, it won't affect OE.
> >
> > Ray at home
> >
> > <aa> wrote in message news:...
> > > It turns out that you were right about SMTP, at least in respect of my
> > local
> > > PC.
> > >
> > > I followed SMTP link you offered and found a good MS SMTP Help file.
> > > The proble is it is so good and detailed that to study it is a
separate
> > > project.
> > > My concern is, whether OutlookExpress which is working fine for the
> > moment,
> > > relies on SMTP settings.
> > > if I start experimenting with SMTP, is there a chanse of
OutlookExpress
> > > prtests and go on strike?
> >
> >
>
>

Do you mean that if in
Outgoing Mails (SMTP) I have the address of my provider, this means that I
am using the ISP's SMTP ?


"Ray at <%=sLocation%>" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
news:OMZLg%...
> Tools--Accounts.............
>
> Ray at work
>
> <aa> wrote in message news:...
> > Thanks
> > How can I check if I use my ISP's SMTP server in OE ?
> >
> > "Ray at <%=sLocation%>" <myFirstNameATlane34dotKOMM> wrote in message
> > news:...
> > > Chances are that you use your ISP's SMTP server in OE, not your own
> > internal
> > > one. So, if that's the case, no, it won't affect OE.
> > >
> > > Ray at home
> > >
> > > <aa> wrote in message news:...
> > > > It turns out that you were right about SMTP, at least in respect of
my
> > > local
> > > > PC.
> > > >
> > > > I followed SMTP link you offered and found a good MS SMTP Help file.
> > > > The proble is it is so good and detailed that to study it is a
> separate
> > > > project.
> > > > My concern is, whether OutlookExpress which is working fine for the
> > > moment,
> > > > relies on SMTP settings.
> > > > if I start experimenting with SMTP, is there a chanse of
> OutlookExpress
> > > > prtests and go on strike?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

No, your e-mail address means nothing and does not tell you what your POP
and SMTP settings are. See your ISP's FAQs. For example, if you use
Verizon DSL,
http://onlinehelp.verizon.net/SRVS/C...xi=1,case=2372.

Ray at work

<aa> wrote in message news:%...
> Do you mean that if in
> Outgoing Mails (SMTP) I have the address of my provider, this means that I
> am using the ISP's SMTP ?
>
>
> "Ray at <%=sLocation%>" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
> news:OMZLg%...
> > Tools--Accounts.............
> >
> > Ray at work
> >
> > <aa> wrote in message news:...
> > > Thanks
> > > How can I check if I use my ISP's SMTP server in OE ?
> > >
> > > "Ray at <%=sLocation%>" <myFirstNameATlane34dotKOMM> wrote in message
> > > news:...
> > > > Chances are that you use your ISP's SMTP server in OE, not your own
> > > internal
> > > > one. So, if that's the case, no, it won't affect OE.
> > > >
> > > > Ray at home
> > > >
> > > > <aa> wrote in message news:...
> > > > > It turns out that you were right about SMTP, at least in respect
of
> my
> > > > local
> > > > > PC.
> > > > >
> > > > > I followed SMTP link you offered and found a good MS SMTP Help
file.
> > > > > The proble is it is so good and detailed that to study it is a
> > separate
> > > > > project.
> > > > > My concern is, whether OutlookExpress which is working fine for
the
> > > > moment,
> > > > > relies on SMTP settings.
> > > > > if I start experimenting with SMTP, is there a chanse of
> > OutlookExpress
> > > > > prtests and go on strike?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Ray,
I am talking about my ISP SMTP server address like
mail.microsoft.com
which is shown in Outgoing Mails (SMTP), not about my email address.




"Ray at <%=sLocation%>" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
news:...
> No, your e-mail address means nothing and does not tell you what your POP
> and SMTP settings are. See your ISP's FAQs. For example, if you use
> Verizon DSL,
>
http://onlinehelp.verizon.net/SRVS/C...xi=1,case=2372.
>
> Ray at work
>
> <aa> wrote in message news:%...
> > Do you mean that if in
> > Outgoing Mails (SMTP) I have the address of my provider, this means that
I
> > am using the ISP's SMTP ?
> >
> >
> > "Ray at <%=sLocation%>" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
> > news:OMZLg%...
> > > Tools--Accounts.............
> > >
> > > Ray at work
> > >
> > > <aa> wrote in message news:...
> > > > Thanks
> > > > How can I check if I use my ISP's SMTP server in OE ?
> > > >
> > > > "Ray at <%=sLocation%>" <myFirstNameATlane34dotKOMM> wrote in
message
> > > > news:...
> > > > > Chances are that you use your ISP's SMTP server in OE, not your
own
> > > > internal
> > > > > one. So, if that's the case, no, it won't affect OE.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ray at home
> > > > >
> > > > > <aa> wrote in message
news:...
> > > > > > It turns out that you were right about SMTP, at least in respect
> of
> > my
> > > > > local
> > > > > > PC.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I followed SMTP link you offered and found a good MS SMTP Help
> file.
> > > > > > The proble is it is so good and detailed that to study it is a
> > > separate
> > > > > > project.
> > > > > > My concern is, whether OutlookExpress which is working fine for
> the
> > > > > moment,
> > > > > > relies on SMTP settings.
> > > > > > if I start experimenting with SMTP, is there a chanse of
> > > OutlookExpress
> > > > > > prtests and go on strike?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>