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From your description, you have some WCF service which are called by ASP.NET web application(which use windows integrated authentication). However, the ASP.NET web page(call those WCF service) report authentication error, correct? According to the WCF service and client proxy(in asp.net) configuration, I've got that your WCF service is configured with WSHttpBinding and use the default message layer security(with windows client credential type). In such mode, the client-side proxy will automatically use the current security account(of the current process/executing thread) as the client security token) for the WCF service authentication if you haven't explicitly specify a different account. So I'd like to confirm the execution environment of your ASP.NET web application since that will affect the authentication b ehavior between the WCF service and the client running in the ASP.NET app. ** Is the ASP.NET web application running on the same server with WCF service or they're hosted remotely ** What is the IIS version of the server that host ASP.NET web app? And what is the current security account the ASP.NET web app(an the pages in it) executing under? You can use the following code to output the executing account in ASP.NET page: Response.Write(System.Security.Principal.WindowsId entity.GetCurrent().Name); ** have you enabled "impersonate" in your ASP.NET web app? All these will affect the authentication behavior between your ASP.NET WCF client and the WCF service side. Sincerely, Steven Cheng Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead Delighting our customers is our #1 priority. We welcome your comments and suggestions about how we can improve the support we provide to you. Please feel free to let my manager know what you think of the level of service provided. You can send feedback directly to my manager at: . ================================================== Get notification to my posts through email? Please refer to http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/subs...#notifications. Note: MSDN Managed Newsgroup support offering is for non-urgent issues where an initial response from the community or a Microsoft Support Engineer within 2 business day is acceptable. Please note that each follow up response may take approximately 2 business days as the support professional working with you may need further investigation to reach the most efficient resolution. The offering is not appropriate for situations that require urgent, real-time or phone-based interactions. Issues of this nature are best handled working with a dedicated Microsoft Support Engineer by contacting Microsoft Customer Support Services (CSS) at http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/subs.../aa948874.aspx ================================================== This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. -------------------- >From: "Larry" <> >Subject: WCF and Integrated Windows Authentication >Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 00:56:45 -0600 > >I have an application with a web front-end and several web services. Some >of the web services will call other web services. I've previously been >using wsHttpBinding and certificates to connect to my IIS hosted wcf web >services, which has been working great. I've received a new requirement >that I need to support Integrated Windows Authentication and not allow >Anonymous access on the web site or the web services. For the web site, I >can uncheck the "Enable anonymous access" and update the web.config and I >can authenticate there fine. But when the web app calls a web service, I >get the error: "The HTTP request is unauthorized with client authentication >scheme 'Anonymous'. The authentication header received from the server was >'Negotiate,NTLM'." What am I missing? > >Configuration: >The web site and web services run under an application pool with a domain >user identity. > >Client Configuration: > ><?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?> ><configuration> > <system.serviceModel> > <bindings> > <wsHttpBinding> > <binding name="WSHttpBinding_IService" >closeTimeout="00:01:00" > openTimeout="00:01:00" receiveTimeout="00:10:00" >sendTimeout="00:01:00" > bypassProxyOnLocal="false" transactionFlow="false" >hostNameComparisonMode="StrongWildcard" > maxBufferPoolSize="524288" >maxReceivedMessageSize="65536" > messageEncoding="Text" textEncoding="utf-8" >useDefaultWebProxy="true" > allowCookies="false"> > <readerQuotas maxDepth="32" >maxStringContentLength="8192" maxArrayLength="16384" > maxBytesPerRead="4096" maxNameTableCharCount="16384" >/> > <reliableSession ordered="true" >inactivityTimeout="00:10:00" > enabled="false" /> > <security mode="Message"> > <transport clientCredentialType="Windows" >proxyCredentialType="None" > realm="" /> > <message clientCredentialType="Windows" >negotiateServiceCredential="true" > algorithmSuite="Default" >establishSecurityContext="true" /> > </security> > </binding> > </wsHttpBinding> > </bindings> > <client> > <endpoint address="http://localhost/WCFTestService/Service.svc" > binding="wsHttpBinding" >bindingConfiguration="WSHttpBinding_IService" > contract="WCFTestService.IService" >name="WSHttpBinding_IService"> > </endpoint> > |
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Thanks for the reply Steven.
With the product installation, the web app and the WCF services will usually be on separate machines, though it can be on single machines (especially for demos). The IIS version currently is 6.0, though I'm trying to get it to work on 7.0 as well (I've got IIS 6 management compatibility installed). The current security account is a domain user in the administrators group. Impersonate is not enabled (I also have web services talking to each other, so if this needs to be done, I need to do it between services as well). Larry ""Steven Cheng"" <> wrote in message news:... > Hi Larry, > > From your description, you have some WCF service which are called by > ASP.NET web application(which use windows integrated authentication). > However, the ASP.NET web page(call those WCF service) report > authentication > error, correct? > > According to the WCF service and client proxy(in asp.net) configuration, > I've got that your WCF service is configured with WSHttpBinding and use > the > default message layer security(with windows client credential type). In > such mode, the client-side proxy will automatically use the current > security account(of the current process/executing thread) as the client > security token) for the WCF service authentication if you haven't > explicitly specify a different account. > > So I'd like to confirm the execution environment of your ASP.NET web > application since that will affect the authentication b ehavior between > the > WCF service and the client running in the ASP.NET app. > > ** Is the ASP.NET web application running on the same server with WCF > service or they're hosted remotely > > ** What is the IIS version of the server that host ASP.NET web app? And > what is the current security account the ASP.NET web app(an the pages in > it) executing under? You can use the following code to output the > executing > account in ASP.NET page: > > Response.Write(System.Security.Principal.WindowsId entity.GetCurrent().Name); > > ** have you enabled "impersonate" in your ASP.NET web app? > > All these will affect the authentication behavior between your ASP.NET WCF > client and the WCF service side. > > > Sincerely, > > Steven Cheng > > Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead > > > Delighting our customers is our #1 priority. We welcome your comments and > suggestions about how we can improve the support we provide to you. Please > feel free to let my manager know what you think of the level of service > provided. You can send feedback directly to my manager at: > . > > ================================================== > Get notification to my posts through email? Please refer to > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/subs...#notifications. > > Note: MSDN Managed Newsgroup support offering is for non-urgent issues > where an initial response from the community or a Microsoft Support > Engineer within 2 business day is acceptable. Please note that each follow > up response may take approximately 2 business days as the support > professional working with you may need further investigation to reach the > most efficient resolution. The offering is not appropriate for situations > that require urgent, real-time or phone-based interactions. Issues of this > nature are best handled working with a dedicated Microsoft Support > Engineer > by contacting Microsoft Customer Support Services (CSS) at > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/subs.../aa948874.aspx > ================================================== > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no > rights. > > > > -------------------- >>From: "Larry" <> >>Subject: WCF and Integrated Windows Authentication >>Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 00:56:45 -0600 >> >>I have an application with a web front-end and several web services. Some >>of the web services will call other web services. I've previously been >>using wsHttpBinding and certificates to connect to my IIS hosted wcf web >>services, which has been working great. I've received a new requirement >>that I need to support Integrated Windows Authentication and not allow >>Anonymous access on the web site or the web services. For the web site, I >>can uncheck the "Enable anonymous access" and update the web.config and I >>can authenticate there fine. But when the web app calls a web service, I >>get the error: "The HTTP request is unauthorized with client > authentication >>scheme 'Anonymous'. The authentication header received from the server was >>'Negotiate,NTLM'." What am I missing? >> >>Configuration: >>The web site and web services run under an application pool with a domain >>user identity. >> >>Client Configuration: >> >><?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?> >><configuration> >> <system.serviceModel> >> <bindings> >> <wsHttpBinding> >> <binding name="WSHttpBinding_IService" >>closeTimeout="00:01:00" >> openTimeout="00:01:00" receiveTimeout="00:10:00" >>sendTimeout="00:01:00" >> bypassProxyOnLocal="false" transactionFlow="false" >>hostNameComparisonMode="StrongWildcard" >> maxBufferPoolSize="524288" >>maxReceivedMessageSize="65536" >> messageEncoding="Text" textEncoding="utf-8" >>useDefaultWebProxy="true" >> allowCookies="false"> >> <readerQuotas maxDepth="32" >>maxStringContentLength="8192" maxArrayLength="16384" >> maxBytesPerRead="4096" > maxNameTableCharCount="16384" >>/> >> <reliableSession ordered="true" >>inactivityTimeout="00:10:00" >> enabled="false" /> >> <security mode="Message"> >> <transport clientCredentialType="Windows" >>proxyCredentialType="None" >> realm="" /> >> <message clientCredentialType="Windows" >>negotiateServiceCredential="true" >> algorithmSuite="Default" >>establishSecurityContext="true" /> >> </security> >> </binding> >> </wsHttpBinding> >> </bindings> >> <client> >> <endpoint >> address="http://localhost/WCFTestService/Service.svc" >> binding="wsHttpBinding" >>bindingConfiguration="WSHttpBinding_IService" >> contract="WCFTestService.IService" >>name="WSHttpBinding_IService"> >> </endpoint> >> > |
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Thanks for your reply Larry,
So let's just assume the server topology to be remote based (asp.net web app and webservice hosted on separate machine). For IIS6, the worker process account should be the application pool account(configured for your application virtual directory), since you 're using a domain account(with out impersonate), then this domain account should be used as the security identity when your ASP.NET web app calling the remote WCF service(which use wshttpBinding and default message layer security). Also, if you found that the above behavior is what happened in your case, you can try explicitly specify a client credentials (when calling the WCF service in ASP.NET page) to see whether it works. e.g. =============== static void CallService() { ServiceReference1.WSHttpServiceClient client = new IISHostClientApp.ServiceReference1.WSHttpServiceCl ient(); //use the current security identity client.ClientCredentials.Windows.ClientCredential = System.Net.CredentialCache.DefaultNetworkCredentia ls; //explicitly specify a credential //client.ClientCredentials.Windows.ClientCredential = new System.Net.NetworkCredential("username", "password", "domain"); string ret = client.SayHello("steven"); Console.WriteLine(ret); client.Close(); } =============== You can also test the behavior via a console client(running on that ASP.NET web application host server) to watch the difference. If there is any findings or anything unclear on this, please feel free to post here. Sincerely, Steven Cheng Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead Delighting our customers is our #1 priority. We welcome your comments and suggestions about how we can improve the support we provide to you. Please feel free to let my manager know what you think of the level of service provided. You can send feedback directly to my manager at: . -------------------- >From: "Larry" <> >References: <#> <> >Subject: Re: WCF and Integrated Windows Authentication >Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:06:35 -0600 >Thanks for the reply Steven. > >With the product installation, the web app and the WCF services will usually >be on separate machines, though it can be on single machines (especially for >demos). The IIS version currently is 6.0, though I'm trying to get it to >work on 7.0 as well (I've got IIS 6 management compatibility installed). >The current security account is a domain user in the administrators group. >Impersonate is not enabled (I also have web services talking to each other, >so if this needs to be done, I need to do it between services as well). > >Larry > >"" |
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Steven,
Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, what you mentioned in your last response is how I am already doing things. You can see my config from my original posting. The web application and the web services all run under an application pool with a domain administrator. I also have to disable anonymous access in IIS. If I enable anonymous access, what I've done and what you mention works. But, it is a requirement to not allow anonymous access. Can I get this to work with windows authentication and message level security? Larry The problems is that as I stated in my original question, I can't allow anonymous access in IIS. What I ""Steven Cheng"" <> wrote in message news:... > Thanks for your reply Larry, > > So let's just assume the server topology to be remote based (asp.net web > app and webservice hosted on separate machine). > > For IIS6, the worker process account should be the application pool > account(configured for your application virtual directory), since you 're > using a domain account(with out impersonate), then this domain account > should be used as the security identity when your ASP.NET web app calling > the remote WCF service(which use wshttpBinding and default message layer > security). > > Also, if you found that the above behavior is what happened in your case, > you can try explicitly specify a client credentials (when calling the WCF > service in ASP.NET page) to see whether it works. e.g. > > =============== > static void CallService() > { > > ServiceReference1.WSHttpServiceClient client = new > IISHostClientApp.ServiceReference1.WSHttpServiceCl ient(); > > //use the current security identity > client.ClientCredentials.Windows.ClientCredential = > System.Net.CredentialCache.DefaultNetworkCredentia ls; > > //explicitly specify a credential > //client.ClientCredentials.Windows.ClientCredential = new > System.Net.NetworkCredential("username", "password", "domain"); > > string ret = client.SayHello("steven"); > > Console.WriteLine(ret); > client.Close(); > } > =============== > > You can also test the behavior via a console client(running on that > ASP.NET > web application host server) to watch the difference. If there is any > findings or anything unclear on this, please feel free to post here. > > Sincerely, > > Steven Cheng > > Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead > > > Delighting our customers is our #1 priority. We welcome your comments and > suggestions about how we can improve the support we provide to you. Please > feel free to let my manager know what you think of the level of service > provided. You can send feedback directly to my manager at: > . > > > -------------------- >>From: "Larry" <> >>References: <#> > <> >>Subject: Re: WCF and Integrated Windows Authentication >>Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:06:35 -0600 > >>Thanks for the reply Steven. >> >>With the product installation, the web app and the WCF services will > usually >>be on separate machines, though it can be on single machines (especially > for >>demos). The IIS version currently is 6.0, though I'm trying to get it to >>work on 7.0 as well (I've got IIS 6 management compatibility installed). >>The current security account is a domain user in the administrators group. >>Impersonate is not enabled (I also have web services talking to each > other, >>so if this needs to be done, I need to do it between services as well). >> >>Larry >> >>"" > |
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Thanks for your reply Larry,
So the problem is actually due to "anonymous access" has been disabled on that directory. Unfortunately, so far the recommended way for WCF securing is either using transport layer or using message layer security. When the IIS virtual dir has disabled anonymous access, that means you have to follow tranport layer security (the IIS security setting is at transport layer ). Is it possible to allow "anonymous access" for that IIS application? Thus, we can still use windows authentication at message layer and get the client-side caller's security credentials. Sincerely, Steven Cheng Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead Delighting our customers is our #1 priority. We welcome your comments and suggestions about how we can improve the support we provide to you. Please feel free to let my manager know what you think of the level of service provided. You can send feedback directly to my manager at: . ================================================== Get notification to my posts through email? Please refer to http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/subs...#notifications. -------------------- >From: "Larry" <> >Subject: Re: WCF and Integrated Windows Authentication >Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:43:48 -0600 >Steven, > >Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, what you mentioned in your last >response is how I am already doing things. You can see my config from my >original posting. The web application and the web services all run under an >application pool with a domain administrator. I also have to disable >anonymous access in IIS. If I enable anonymous access, what I've done and >what you mention works. But, it is a requirement to not allow anonymous >access. Can I get this to work with windows authentication and message >level security? > >Larry > >The problems is that as I stated in my original question, I can't allow >anonymous access in IIS. What I >""Steven Cheng"" <> wrote in message >news:... >> Thanks for your reply Larry, >> >> So let's just assume the server topology to be remote based (asp.net web >> app and webservice hosted on separate machine). >> >> For IIS6, the worker process account should be the application pool >> account(configured for your application virtual directory), since you 're >> using a domain account(with out impersonate), then this domain account >> should be used as the security identity when your ASP.NET web app calling >> the remote WCF service(which use wshttpBinding and default message layer >> security). >> >> Also, if you found that the above behavior is what happened in your case, >> you can try explicitly specify a client credentials (when calling the WCF >> service in ASP.NET page) to see whether it works. e.g. >> >> ==== |
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Thanks for looking into this Steven. It looks like I may change the host
from IIS to a windows service (for more reasons that this issue). But out of curiosity, what is it about the anonymous access that WCF uses to make it a requirement? I'm just trying to understand this aspect of the communication more. If you could provide any links, documentation or book references that would be appreciated. Larry ""Steven Cheng"" <> wrote in message news:... > Thanks for your reply Larry, > > So the problem is actually due to "anonymous access" has been disabled on > that directory. Unfortunately, so far the recommended way for WCF securing > is either using transport layer or using message layer security. When the > IIS virtual dir has disabled anonymous access, that means you have to > follow tranport layer security (the IIS security setting is at transport > layer ). Is it possible to allow "anonymous access" for that IIS > application? Thus, we can still use windows authentication at message > layer > and get the client-side caller's security credentials. > > Sincerely, > > Steven Cheng > > Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead > > > Delighting our customers is our #1 priority. We welcome your comments and > suggestions about how we can improve the support we provide to you. Please > feel free to let my manager know what you think of the level of service > provided. You can send feedback directly to my manager at: > . > > ================================================== > Get notification to my posts through email? Please refer to > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/subs...#notifications. > > > -------------------- >>From: "Larry" <> >>Subject: Re: WCF and Integrated Windows Authentication >>Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:43:48 -0600 > >>Steven, >> >>Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, what you mentioned in your last >>response is how I am already doing things. You can see my config from my >>original posting. The web application and the web services all run under > an >>application pool with a domain administrator. I also have to disable >>anonymous access in IIS. If I enable anonymous access, what I've done and >>what you mention works. But, it is a requirement to not allow anonymous >>access. Can I get this to work with windows authentication and message >>level security? >> >>Larry >> >>The problems is that as I stated in my original question, I can't allow >>anonymous access in IIS. What I >>""Steven Cheng"" <> wrote in message >>news:.. . >>> Thanks for your reply Larry, >>> >>> So let's just assume the server topology to be remote based (asp.net web >>> app and webservice hosted on separate machine). >>> >>> For IIS6, the worker process account should be the application pool >>> account(configured for your application virtual directory), since you >>> 're >>> using a domain account(with out impersonate), then this domain account >>> should be used as the security identity when your ASP.NET web app >>> calling >>> the remote WCF service(which use wshttpBinding and default message layer >>> security). >>> >>> Also, if you found that the above behavior is what happened in your >>> case, >>> you can try explicitly specify a client credentials (when calling the >>> WCF >>> service in ASP.NET page) to see whether it works. e.g. >>> >>> ==== > |
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Thanks for your reply Larry,
When you host WCF in IIS, the difference from other hosting scenario(like self host) is that IIS help provide the transport layer(http layer). And that also means all those IIS specific authentication is at transport layer. In such cases, you'll have the following reasonable security configuraion for your WCF service: 1. Use the IIS provided transport security. You can basicHttpBinding, this is the simplest HTTP binding which completely conform to standard http communication also used by other ASP.NET web page and ASMX webservice. And by set security mode to "TransportCredentialsOnly", you can get the same behavior like an ASP.NET asmx webservice. So you can let IIS to help do the windows authentication here(over http protocol) , but no encrypt, signing is provided here. Or you can use https/SSL to ensure further encrypt and signing protection. 2. Use message layer security. Then, the WCF use WS-* message layer protocols to ensure encrypt and signing protection. And authentication/credentials are also processed at message layer. We no longer rely on IIS to do the authentication. So in such cases, we need to turn off the IIS authentication(let all the request pass through). That's why we need to turn anonymous access on. We do all the authentication at WCF message layer. For reference, I would suggest the MSDN document's security reference on WCF: #Security Overview http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms735093.aspx And here are some web articles discussing on using the basic httpbinding with WCF: #How to: Configure WCF Service to Interoperate with ASP.NET Web Service Clients http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms731134.aspx #WCF : BasicHttpBinding compared to WSHttpBinding at SOAP packet level http://geekswithblogs.net/claeyskurt...22/121508.aspx #Recipe: WCF basicHttpBinding with Windows Authentication http://www.rickgaribay.net/archive/2...httpbinding-wi th-windows-authentication.aspx If you have any specific questions ,please feel free to post here. Sincerely, Steven Cheng Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead Delighting our customers is our #1 priority. We welcome your comments and suggestions about how we can improve the support we provide to you. Please feel free to let my manager know what you think of the level of service provided. You can send feedback directly to my manager at: . ================================================== Get notification to my posts through email? Please refer to http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/subs...#notifications. -------------------- >From: "Larry" < >Subject: Re: WCF and Integrated Windows Authentication >Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:28:56 -0600 > >Thanks for looking into this Steven. It looks like I may change the host >from IIS to a windows service (for more reasons that this issue). But out >of curiosity, what is it about the anonymous access that WCF uses to make it >a requirement? I'm just trying to understand this aspect of the >communication more. If you could provide any links, documentation or book >references that would be appreciated. > >Larry > >""Steven Cheng"" <> wrote in message >news:... >> Thanks for your reply Larry, >> >> So the problem is actually due to "anonymous access" has been disabled on >> that directory. Unfortunately, so far the recommended way for WCF securing >> is either using transport layer or using message layer security. When the >> IIS virtual dir has disabled anonymous access, that means you have to >> follow tranport layer security (the IIS security setting is at transport >> layer ). Is it possible to allow "anonymous access" for that IIS >> application? Thus, we can still use windows authentication at message >> layer >> and get the client-side caller's security credentials. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Steven Cheng >> >> Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead >> >> >> Delighting our customers is our #1 priority. We welcome your comments and >> suggestions about how we can improve the support we provide to you. Please >> feel free to let my manager know what you think of the level of service >> provided. You can send feedback directly to my manager at: >> . >> >> ================================================== >> Get notification to my posts through email? Please refer to >> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/subs...#notifications. >> >> >> -------------------- >>>From: "Larry" <> >>>Subject: Re: WCF and Integrated Windows Authentication >>>Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:43:48 -0600 >> >>>Steven, >>> >>>Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, what you mentioned in your last >>>response is how I am already doing things. You can see my config from my >>>original posting. The web application and the web services all run under >> an >>>application pool with a domain administrator. I also have to disable >>>anonymous access in IIS. If I enable anonymous access, what I've done and >>>what you mention works. But, it is a requirement to not allow anonymous >>>access. Can I get this to work with windows authentication and message >>>level security? >>> >>>Larry >>> >>>The problems is that as I stated in my original question, I can't allow >>>anonymous access in IIS. What I >>>""Steven Cheng"" <> wrote in message >>>news:. .. >>>> Thanks for your reply Larry, >>>> >>>> So let's just assume the server topology to be remote based (asp.net web >>>> app and webservice hosted on separate machine). >>>> >>>> For IIS6, the worker process account should be the application pool >>>> account(configured for your application virtual directory), since you >>>> 're >>>> using a domain account(with out impersonate), then this domain account >>>> should be used as the security identity when your ASP.NET web app >>>> calling >>>> the remote WCF service(which use wshttpBinding and default message layer >>>> security). >>>> >>>> Also, if you found that the above behavior is what happened in your >>>> case, >>>> you can try explicitly specify a client credentials (when calling the >>>> WCF >>>> service in ASP.NET page) to see whether it works. e.g. >>>> >>>> ==== >> > > > |
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