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Old 10-26-2005, 02:13 AM   #1
Default WIRELESS ROUTING NIGHTMARE


I just got a brand new Dell 6000 laptop, and try as I may, I cannot get
the D-Link wireless router I just bought to connect. I connected my
roadrunner to the router and set it up just as it asked --and nothing.
Router seems to not pick up an IP address for my laptop. Unfortunatley
I do not know too much computer-lingo and maybe am not giving an
accurate description of the problem....HELP



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Old 10-26-2005, 02:38 AM   #2
Kevin
 
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So your Inspiron 6000, which has the built in Intel ProSet/Wireless modem,
does not see your D-Link router which is broadcasting your internet
connection? The laptop modem should offer to connect you to your wireless
router without any difficulty. Have you checked your firewall settings?

"ORCHID" <> wrote in message
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>I just got a brand new Dell 6000 laptop, and try as I may, I cannot get
> the D-Link wireless router I just bought to connect. I connected my
> roadrunner to the router and set it up just as it asked --and nothing.
> Router seems to not pick up an IP address for my laptop. Unfortunatley
> I do not know too much computer-lingo and maybe am not giving an
> accurate description of the problem....HELP
>





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Old 10-26-2005, 04:24 AM   #3
JohnF
 
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Your Inspiron 600 may have a Dell internal wireless or an Intel internal
wireless.

In either case, you'll want to use the manufacturer's software (Dell or
Intel) to manage the wireless connection.

RULE 1: Learn to distinguish the Window XP wireless icon from the Intel or
Dell icon. Don't use the Windows XP wireless icon.

RULE 2: Be sure your Internet connection works well (DSL/Cable/Satellite)
BEFORE you insert the wirelss router into the picture.

RULE 3: Your IP address, after inserting the router, will be assigned by the
router. If your computer is still clinging to the IP address assigned via
the broadband modem, go to <control panel> <network connections>,
right-click on the broadband connection, and "repair".




"ORCHID" <> wrote in message
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>I just got a brand new Dell 6000 laptop, and try as I may, I cannot get
> the D-Link wireless router I just bought to connect. I connected my
> roadrunner to the router and set it up just as it asked --and nothing.
> Router seems to not pick up an IP address for my laptop. Unfortunatley
> I do not know too much computer-lingo and maybe am not giving an
> accurate description of the problem....HELP
>





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Old 10-26-2005, 10:29 PM   #4
Diamontina Cocktail
 
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"ORCHID" <> wrote in message
news: oups.com...
>I just got a brand new Dell 6000 laptop, and try as I may, I cannot get
> the D-Link wireless router I just bought to connect. I connected my
> roadrunner to the router and set it up just as it asked --and nothing.
> Router seems to not pick up an IP address for my laptop. Unfortunatley
> I do not know too much computer-lingo and maybe am not giving an
> accurate description of the problem....HELP
>


It may be a little pedantic but the router doesn't pick up and address for
the laptop as in the laptop gives the router the details UNLESS you manually
assign IP on the laptop. The router sends the details to the laptop if all
on auto. If the roadrunner and the d-link use different IP ranges and
netmasks, asking it to auto assign to the roadrunner, turning that off and
the d-link on can be the cause of that trouble.

If that is the case, after the d-link is running, you need to open control
panel/network connections and right click on the wireless connection and
disable it and when disabled, enable it again. There are other ways of
course but that is easiest if you are unsure what else to do. At that point,
your laptop will try and connect to the router and get the new details.

There may be other reasons such as you set up encryption on your laptop and
roadrunner but didn't set up encryption on the d-link. If that is the case,
you need to remove the encryption to talk to the d-link then set the d-link
up with encryption and do the same to the laptop after that.




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Old 10-30-2005, 04:27 AM   #5
=?Utf-8?B?UmFuZ2Vybw==?=
 
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Diamond,
I have a similar problem. Installed a USB wireless adapter, can find my
router and connects to the router OK (64B encrypt). I then click on internet
explorer and just get blank pages i.e. cannot connect to the internet. ANy
ideas?
--
The Lone Rangero in deed


"Diamontina Cocktail" wrote:

>
> "ORCHID" <> wrote in message
> news: oups.com...
> >I just got a brand new Dell 6000 laptop, and try as I may, I cannot get
> > the D-Link wireless router I just bought to connect. I connected my
> > roadrunner to the router and set it up just as it asked --and nothing.
> > Router seems to not pick up an IP address for my laptop. Unfortunatley
> > I do not know too much computer-lingo and maybe am not giving an
> > accurate description of the problem....HELP
> >

>
> It may be a little pedantic but the router doesn't pick up and address for
> the laptop as in the laptop gives the router the details UNLESS you manually
> assign IP on the laptop. The router sends the details to the laptop if all
> on auto. If the roadrunner and the d-link use different IP ranges and
> netmasks, asking it to auto assign to the roadrunner, turning that off and
> the d-link on can be the cause of that trouble.
>
> If that is the case, after the d-link is running, you need to open control
> panel/network connections and right click on the wireless connection and
> disable it and when disabled, enable it again. There are other ways of
> course but that is easiest if you are unsure what else to do. At that point,
> your laptop will try and connect to the router and get the new details.
>
> There may be other reasons such as you set up encryption on your laptop and
> roadrunner but didn't set up encryption on the d-link. If that is the case,
> you need to remove the encryption to talk to the d-link then set the d-link
> up with encryption and do the same to the laptop after that.
>
>
>



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Old 10-30-2005, 05:12 AM   #6
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"Rangero" <> wrote in message
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> Diamond,
> I have a similar problem. Installed a USB wireless adapter, can find my
> router and connects to the router OK (64B encrypt). I then click on
> internet
> explorer and just get blank pages i.e. cannot connect to the internet. ANy
> ideas?


If you're using XP with SP2, then DON'T let Windows manage the connection.
Use the software that came with the USB wireless adapter.

Tom Lake




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Old 10-31-2005, 01:55 AM   #7
Mercury
 
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Why?

I have found WZC to be totally reliable and it has the benefit that you
don't have to muck around to find which version of the h/w vendor supplied
s/w is stable enough & reliable enough to use. This leaves only 1 aspect of
the h/w vendor config to get right - a stable driver.

I believe in minimalism and dislike extraneous toolbar icons, unnecessary
apps, the eye candy in the vendor supplied utils does nothing for me. Each
one has to be learned anew whereas there is only 1 interface to learn about
with WZC.

So, I am interested in good reasons, bugs, and so on 'cos I had always been
advising the other way with 100% success for my customers.



"Tom Lake" <> wrote in message
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> "Rangero" <> wrote in message
> news:1D6D1F83-FB79-457D-98DE-...
>> Diamond,
>> I have a similar problem. Installed a USB wireless adapter, can find my
>> router and connects to the router OK (64B encrypt). I then click on
>> internet
>> explorer and just get blank pages i.e. cannot connect to the internet.
>> ANy
>> ideas?

>
> If you're using XP with SP2, then DON'T let Windows manage the connection.
> Use the software that came with the USB wireless adapter.
>
> Tom Lake
>





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Old 10-31-2005, 04:37 AM   #8
Gary Smith
 
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Your experience accords with mine. The Linksys-provided software could
maintain a stable connection on our XP SP2 system. The only way I could
establish and retain a relaible conncetion was to disable the Linksys
software and use WZC instead.


Mercury <> wrote:
> Why?


> I have found WZC to be totally reliable and it has the benefit that you
> don't have to muck around to find which version of the h/w vendor supplied
> s/w is stable enough & reliable enough to use. This leaves only 1 aspect of
> the h/w vendor config to get right - a stable driver.


> I believe in minimalism and dislike extraneous toolbar icons, unnecessary
> apps, the eye candy in the vendor supplied utils does nothing for me. Each
> one has to be learned anew whereas there is only 1 interface to learn about
> with WZC.


> So, I am interested in good reasons, bugs, and so on 'cos I had always been
> advising the other way with 100% success for my customers.




> "Tom Lake" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > "Rangero" <> wrote in message
> > news:1D6D1F83-FB79-457D-98DE-...
> >> Diamond,
> >> I have a similar problem. Installed a USB wireless adapter, can find my
> >> router and connects to the router OK (64B encrypt). I then click on
> >> internet
> >> explorer and just get blank pages i.e. cannot connect to the internet.
> >> ANy
> >> ideas?

> >
> > If you're using XP with SP2, then DON'T let Windows manage the connection.
> > Use the software that came with the USB wireless adapter.
> >
> > Tom Lake
> >




--
Gary L. Smith
Columbus, Ohio


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Old 10-31-2005, 12:17 PM   #9
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"Rangero" <> wrote in message
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> Diamond,
> I have a similar problem. Installed a USB wireless adapter, can find my
> router and connects to the router OK (64B encrypt). I then click on
> internet
> explorer and just get blank pages i.e. cannot connect to the internet. ANy
> ideas?


Yep. It could be your firewall and again could be the old issue of NIC on
one set of IP numbers and netmask and the router on an entirely different
set. Your prog supplied with the NIC may connect and do nothing else.




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Old 10-31-2005, 12:18 PM   #10
Diamontina Cocktail
 
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To be honest, I can set it up either way without a problem. You usually get
other nifty options with the non-Windows stuff though.

"Gary Smith" <> wrote in message
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> Your experience accords with mine. The Linksys-provided software could
> maintain a stable connection on our XP SP2 system. The only way I could
> establish and retain a relaible conncetion was to disable the Linksys
> software and use WZC instead.
>
>
> Mercury <> wrote:
>> Why?

>
>> I have found WZC to be totally reliable and it has the benefit that you
>> don't have to muck around to find which version of the h/w vendor
>> supplied
>> s/w is stable enough & reliable enough to use. This leaves only 1 aspect
>> of
>> the h/w vendor config to get right - a stable driver.

>
>> I believe in minimalism and dislike extraneous toolbar icons, unnecessary
>> apps, the eye candy in the vendor supplied utils does nothing for me.
>> Each
>> one has to be learned anew whereas there is only 1 interface to learn
>> about
>> with WZC.

>
>> So, I am interested in good reasons, bugs, and so on 'cos I had always
>> been
>> advising the other way with 100% success for my customers.

>
>
>
>> "Tom Lake" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>> > "Rangero" <> wrote in message
>> > news:1D6D1F83-FB79-457D-98DE-...
>> >> Diamond,
>> >> I have a similar problem. Installed a USB wireless adapter, can find
>> >> my
>> >> router and connects to the router OK (64B encrypt). I then click on
>> >> internet
>> >> explorer and just get blank pages i.e. cannot connect to the internet.
>> >> ANy
>> >> ideas?
>> >
>> > If you're using XP with SP2, then DON'T let Windows manage the
>> > connection.
>> > Use the software that came with the USB wireless adapter.
>> >
>> > Tom Lake
>> >

>
>
>
> --
> Gary L. Smith
> Columbus, Ohio





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