On 9/13/2011 4:53 AM, Savageduck wrote:
> On 2011-09-13 00:53:42 -0700, Jerry <> said:
>
>> On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:29:39 -0700, Savageduck
>> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2011-09-12 19:49:45 -0700, Jerry <> said:
>>>
>>>> I am not a computer expert. I have photos of relatives,
>>>> kids, friends which I want to circulate by email but I'm
>>>> afraid of pedophiles, stalkers etc. locating the people from
>>>> geotags embedded in the photos.
>>>> I need a simple scanning program which will tell me if
>>>> there ARE any tags present, and able to REMOVE them before I
>>>> email the photos to anyone or post them on the Internet.
>>>>
>>>> This must be a common concern and people must be using
>>>> some SIMPLE program to clean the phtos up befoere emailing
>>>> them to friends.
>>>>
>>>> Can you please suggest a SIMPLE program to do this,
>>>> preferably freeware or lowcost.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance, Jerry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Are you in anyway responsible for adding GPS, or geotag data to any of
>>> these images?
>>>
>> [Jerry}
>> Generally no. I don't even own a digital camera. But close
>> friends send me photos which I send to ohers and no telling
>> where they'll wind up. For instance an ex wife sends me
>> photos of her kids taken at her new house in Phoenix and I
>> send them to another old friend who knew us 30 years ago.
>>>
>>>
>>> If so, then I ask the following:
>>> First, what camera are you using and how are you imbedding GPS, or
>>> geotagging data.
>>>
>> [Jerry]
>> I'm not taking any photos, but I have friends who are not
>> even aware of the problem and I don't want to be responsible
>> for exposing them to risk by forwarding the photos to other
>> friends.
>
> No you are sounding irrationally paranoid. I believe your fears are
> unfounded.
>
>>>
>>>
>>> Secondly, what photo-editing software are you currently using?
>>>
>> [Jerry]
>> None... never edited any photos.. don't want to. Just want
>> to make the photos safe before I forward them to someone.
>
> In that case go ahead and forward them, I gather you feel as safe about
> those you would forward to, as the folks who forwarded them to you, felt
> about you.
>
>>>
>>>
>>> Then just how many of the folks you are planning to circulate these
>>> images to, are pedophiles stalkers, etc.?
>>>
>>>
>> [Jerry]
>> Get real.... the average neighborhood today has half a
>> dozen registered sex offenders... you have no idea where a
>> photo is going to wind up once you email it to someone...
>> much less post it on facebook or something.
>
> I am about the most "real" individual you are going to find in this
> newsgroup in this regard, given that I am retired Law enforcement. Where
> exactly are you getting your figure of "half a dozen registered sex
> offenders" in the average neighborhood?
>
> There are some areas where you will find clusters of these individuals,
> but for the most part registered sex offenders are not prowling the
> streets of America in a search for victims, using e-mailed imaged which
> might or might not be geotagged.
>
> ...and if you are concerned that somebody you are forwarding these
> images to might be a registered sex offender, just check.
> < http://www.nsopw.gov/Core/Portal.asp...ookieSupport=1 >
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>> ...or do you not trust your friends & family, or the source of the
>>> images?
>>>
>>>
>> [Jerry]
>> Get real.... this problem has been all over the news
>> lately with pedofiles, burglars, stalkers and home invaders
>> scanning photos on Facebook and elsewhere and locating the
>> houses on Google Earth and then attacking random people. For
>> cripes sake don't you watch television?
>
> Actually I believe it is you who should "get real". Exactly which news
> service is broadcasting all this fear mongering with regard to all those
> criminals attacking "random people"?
>
> ...and I do watch television and I have yet to see a report of any
> attack which has resulted from e-mailing an image with GPS, or geotag
> data embedded.
>
>>>
>>>
>>> There is EXIF editing software available and other image editing
>>> software such as Photoshop Elements, and Photoshop CS5.
>>> With that software you have the option of striping all or some EXIF
>>> data from image files you choose to to distribute.
>>>
>>>
>> [jerry]
>> Yeah bui this stuff looks complicated as hell.... isn't
>> there a simple WIPEOUT PROGRAM that will simply scan a JPEG
>> photo and wipe all the info off of it? This has become a
>> national problem receiving a lot of media attention....
>> there must be some simple turnkey program that will protect
>> people from this kind of thing without forcing them to
>> become computer PhD's !!
>
> OK!
> I add GPS data to the majority of my images. Here is a link to one of my
> photographs which has GPS data encoded, and if you can read that data,
> it will show you exactly where I was standing when I took that shot. It
> is an interesting tool which should not frighten you.
> < http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/DNC_9246fw.jpg >
>
> It is only complicated if you have no idea of what all of this stuff is
> about, so I guess for you it is complicated.
>
> In which country has this become a national problem and which media has
> been giving it a lot of attention?
>
> <<< Complicated stuff snipped >>>
>
>
My gut feeling is agreeing with you. But, you are more subtle than I.
--
Peter
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