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On 9/3/2011 9:43 AM, RichA wrote:
> So the police are now letting "Apple personnel" search people's > homes? How compliant. > > San Francisco (CNN) -- Police officials said they helped Apple > investigators, who searched a man's home here recently. > > They were reportedly looking for a prototype of the next iPhone that > an Apple employee left in a bar in San Francisco's Mission > neighborhood, according to CNET. Apple had contacted the police > claiming the prototype is invaluable, the report says. > > Four San Francisco Police officers escorted Apple investigators to a > home in the city's Bernal Heights neighborhood, the statement said. > The two Apple employees searched the home while the officers waited > outside, police said. They did not find the item there and declined to > file a police report, according to the statement. > > An Apple spokesman declined to comment. > > A city police official declined to comment to CNN and referred > reporters to the news release. Earlier this week, officials said they > had no record of an investigation. > > In the statement sent to CNN and other news media late Friday, police > did not describe what "lost item" Apple was looking for. However, the > file name of that news release is "iphone5.doc," as Reuters pointed > out. > > Lt. Troy Dangerfield gave an interview to SF Weekly Friday afternoon > confirming the police's involvement with Apple in the investigation. > > SF Weekly also interviewed a man who told the publication that he > consented to having his home searched for a phone by six officers last > month. No one in the group identified himself as being an Apple > employee, the man told SF Weekly. He reportedly said that he assumed > they were all police officials and would not have permitted entry if > he knew the searchers were from Apple. > > Apple's team searched the home, car and computer files, while police > waited outside, the reports say. The investigators reportedly told the > man that they had traced the phone's GPS signal to his house. When > asked, he said he had been at the same bar where the phone was > reportedly lost but that he didn't have it, the report says. > > One of the investigators, who identified himself as Tony, gave the man > living in the house a phone number and told him to call with any > information about the lost phone, the report says. When the SF Weekly > reporter called, a man named Anthony Colon, who said he was an Apple > employee, answered, the report says. > > Colon's LinkedIn profile, which he eventually removed, said he is a > senior investigator for Apple and a former San Jose police sergeant. > > The man, who reportedly said he's a U.S. citizen who lives with > relatives, told SF Weekly that the people searching his home > questioned his family's immigration status. > > The man could not be reached by CNN for comment. > > The situation is reminiscent of when an Apple engineer's prototype > iPhone 4 was taken from a bar in Redwood City, also in the Bay Area, > and sold to the blog Gizmodo, which published the first pictures of > the device. > > Last year, Apple worked with the Rapid Enforcement Allied Computer > Team task force to search the homes of the man who allegedly sold the > device and of Gizmodo editor Jason Chen. > > REACT leader Michael Sterner said none of his officers were present at > the home that was searched last month. He declined to comment further, > citing a policy that prevents him from discussing investigations that > are open or being handled by another department. > > Apple has a history of working with REACT but apparently did not seek > its services this time. The task force has struggled recently over > budget constraints, prompting the organization to shut down an office > and employ fewer officers, Sterner said. > > Nor did Apple enlist the Federal Bureau of Investigation. An FBI > spokesman said the cyber-program leader was not aware of such an > investigation. > > Last time, an Apple employee lost his phone at a German beer garden. > This time, it happened on Saturday, July 23 at tequila bar Cava 22, > said Jose Valle, the bar's manager and the owner's son. A man called > two days in a row after that, asking anxiously whether Valle had found > an iPhone, he said. > > At Apple's expense, Cava 22 seemed to benefit from the news coverage. > The bar drew an unusually large crowd Wednesday night after the news > broke, Valle said. > > CNET had been working with the police for two weeks, and officials > failed to uncover any reports of a search, police spokesman Albie > Esparza told CNN. Apple had not returned the official's phone call on > Thursday, he said. In a message to Apple, the official told the > company that he would refer reporters to its spokespeople if he did > not receive a call. > > Police spokespeople say they weren't briefed on the investigation, > which involved Apple and the police, until Friday. The mixup may be > attributed to Apple's unwillingness to file a formal report or with a > lack of communication between the various police departments involved. > > Police do not typically lie to reporters, even when discussing ongoing > investigations, said Rebecca Lonergan, a former federal prosecutor who > is now a professor at the University of Southern California's law > school. However, in some cases, they are allowed to mislead suspects, > she said. Was that an original story investigated by you, or did you plagiarize again? There is something in this writing that sounds like a cut of whole cloth: Especially, but not limited to: "police don't lie" -- Peter |
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On 9/3/2011 11:57 AM, Irwell wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 11:08:39 -0400, PeterN wrote: > >> On 9/3/2011 9:43 AM, RichA wrote: >>> So the police are now letting "Apple personnel" search people's >>> homes? How compliant. >>> >>> San Francisco (CNN) -- Police officials said they helped Apple >>> investigators, who searched a man's home here recently. >>> >>> They were reportedly looking for a prototype of the next iPhone that >>> an Apple employee left in a bar in San Francisco's Mission >>> neighborhood, according to CNET. Apple had contacted the police >>> claiming the prototype is invaluable, the report says. >>> >>> Four San Francisco Police officers escorted Apple investigators to a >>> home in the city's Bernal Heights neighborhood, the statement said. >>> The two Apple employees searched the home while the officers waited >>> outside, police said. They did not find the item there and declined to >>> file a police report, according to the statement. >>> >>> An Apple spokesman declined to comment. >>> >>> A city police official declined to comment to CNN and referred >>> reporters to the news release. Earlier this week, officials said they >>> had no record of an investigation. >>> >>> In the statement sent to CNN and other news media late Friday, police >>> did not describe what "lost item" Apple was looking for. However, the >>> file name of that news release is "iphone5.doc," as Reuters pointed >>> out. >>> >>> Lt. Troy Dangerfield gave an interview to SF Weekly Friday afternoon >>> confirming the police's involvement with Apple in the investigation. >>> >>> SF Weekly also interviewed a man who told the publication that he >>> consented to having his home searched for a phone by six officers last >>> month. No one in the group identified himself as being an Apple >>> employee, the man told SF Weekly. He reportedly said that he assumed >>> they were all police officials and would not have permitted entry if >>> he knew the searchers were from Apple. >>> >>> Apple's team searched the home, car and computer files, while police >>> waited outside, the reports say. The investigators reportedly told the >>> man that they had traced the phone's GPS signal to his house. When >>> asked, he said he had been at the same bar where the phone was >>> reportedly lost but that he didn't have it, the report says. >>> >>> One of the investigators, who identified himself as Tony, gave the man >>> living in the house a phone number and told him to call with any >>> information about the lost phone, the report says. When the SF Weekly >>> reporter called, a man named Anthony Colon, who said he was an Apple >>> employee, answered, the report says. >>> >>> Colon's LinkedIn profile, which he eventually removed, said he is a >>> senior investigator for Apple and a former San Jose police sergeant. >>> >>> The man, who reportedly said he's a U.S. citizen who lives with >>> relatives, told SF Weekly that the people searching his home >>> questioned his family's immigration status. >>> >>> The man could not be reached by CNN for comment. >>> >>> The situation is reminiscent of when an Apple engineer's prototype >>> iPhone 4 was taken from a bar in Redwood City, also in the Bay Area, >>> and sold to the blog Gizmodo, which published the first pictures of >>> the device. >>> >>> Last year, Apple worked with the Rapid Enforcement Allied Computer >>> Team task force to search the homes of the man who allegedly sold the >>> device and of Gizmodo editor Jason Chen. >>> >>> REACT leader Michael Sterner said none of his officers were present at >>> the home that was searched last month. He declined to comment further, >>> citing a policy that prevents him from discussing investigations that >>> are open or being handled by another department. >>> >>> Apple has a history of working with REACT but apparently did not seek >>> its services this time. The task force has struggled recently over >>> budget constraints, prompting the organization to shut down an office >>> and employ fewer officers, Sterner said. >>> >>> Nor did Apple enlist the Federal Bureau of Investigation. An FBI >>> spokesman said the cyber-program leader was not aware of such an >>> investigation. >>> >>> Last time, an Apple employee lost his phone at a German beer garden. >>> This time, it happened on Saturday, July 23 at tequila bar Cava 22, >>> said Jose Valle, the bar's manager and the owner's son. A man called >>> two days in a row after that, asking anxiously whether Valle had found >>> an iPhone, he said. >>> >>> At Apple's expense, Cava 22 seemed to benefit from the news coverage. >>> The bar drew an unusually large crowd Wednesday night after the news >>> broke, Valle said. >>> >>> CNET had been working with the police for two weeks, and officials >>> failed to uncover any reports of a search, police spokesman Albie >>> Esparza told CNN. Apple had not returned the official's phone call on >>> Thursday, he said. In a message to Apple, the official told the >>> company that he would refer reporters to its spokespeople if he did >>> not receive a call. >>> >>> Police spokespeople say they weren't briefed on the investigation, >>> which involved Apple and the police, until Friday. The mixup may be >>> attributed to Apple's unwillingness to file a formal report or with a >>> lack of communication between the various police departments involved. >>> >>> Police do not typically lie to reporters, even when discussing ongoing >>> investigations, said Rebecca Lonergan, a former federal prosecutor who >>> is now a professor at the University of Southern California's law >>> school. However, in some cases, they are allowed to mislead suspects, >>> she said. >> >> >> Was that an original story investigated by you, or did you plagiarize again? > > Look before you leap,old proverb. > > San Francisco (CNN) -- Police officials said they helped Apple > investigators, who searched a man's home here recently. Where is his attribution. -- Peter |
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On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 11:08:39 -0400, PeterN wrote:
> On 9/3/2011 9:43 AM, RichA wrote: >> So the police are now letting "Apple personnel" search people's >> homes? How compliant. >> >> San Francisco (CNN) -- Police officials said they helped Apple >> investigators, who searched a man's home here recently. >> >> They were reportedly looking for a prototype of the next iPhone that >> an Apple employee left in a bar in San Francisco's Mission >> neighborhood, according to CNET. Apple had contacted the police >> claiming the prototype is invaluable, the report says. >> >> Four San Francisco Police officers escorted Apple investigators to a >> home in the city's Bernal Heights neighborhood, the statement said. >> The two Apple employees searched the home while the officers waited >> outside, police said. They did not find the item there and declined to >> file a police report, according to the statement. >> >> An Apple spokesman declined to comment. >> >> A city police official declined to comment to CNN and referred >> reporters to the news release. Earlier this week, officials said they >> had no record of an investigation. >> >> In the statement sent to CNN and other news media late Friday, police >> did not describe what "lost item" Apple was looking for. However, the >> file name of that news release is "iphone5.doc," as Reuters pointed >> out. >> >> Lt. Troy Dangerfield gave an interview to SF Weekly Friday afternoon >> confirming the police's involvement with Apple in the investigation. >> >> SF Weekly also interviewed a man who told the publication that he >> consented to having his home searched for a phone by six officers last >> month. No one in the group identified himself as being an Apple >> employee, the man told SF Weekly. He reportedly said that he assumed >> they were all police officials and would not have permitted entry if >> he knew the searchers were from Apple. >> >> Apple's team searched the home, car and computer files, while police >> waited outside, the reports say. The investigators reportedly told the >> man that they had traced the phone's GPS signal to his house. When >> asked, he said he had been at the same bar where the phone was >> reportedly lost but that he didn't have it, the report says. >> >> One of the investigators, who identified himself as Tony, gave the man >> living in the house a phone number and told him to call with any >> information about the lost phone, the report says. When the SF Weekly >> reporter called, a man named Anthony Colon, who said he was an Apple >> employee, answered, the report says. >> >> Colon's LinkedIn profile, which he eventually removed, said he is a >> senior investigator for Apple and a former San Jose police sergeant. >> >> The man, who reportedly said he's a U.S. citizen who lives with >> relatives, told SF Weekly that the people searching his home >> questioned his family's immigration status. >> >> The man could not be reached by CNN for comment. >> >> The situation is reminiscent of when an Apple engineer's prototype >> iPhone 4 was taken from a bar in Redwood City, also in the Bay Area, >> and sold to the blog Gizmodo, which published the first pictures of >> the device. >> >> Last year, Apple worked with the Rapid Enforcement Allied Computer >> Team task force to search the homes of the man who allegedly sold the >> device and of Gizmodo editor Jason Chen. >> >> REACT leader Michael Sterner said none of his officers were present at >> the home that was searched last month. He declined to comment further, >> citing a policy that prevents him from discussing investigations that >> are open or being handled by another department. >> >> Apple has a history of working with REACT but apparently did not seek >> its services this time. The task force has struggled recently over >> budget constraints, prompting the organization to shut down an office >> and employ fewer officers, Sterner said. >> >> Nor did Apple enlist the Federal Bureau of Investigation. An FBI >> spokesman said the cyber-program leader was not aware of such an >> investigation. >> >> Last time, an Apple employee lost his phone at a German beer garden. >> This time, it happened on Saturday, July 23 at tequila bar Cava 22, >> said Jose Valle, the bar's manager and the owner's son. A man called >> two days in a row after that, asking anxiously whether Valle had found >> an iPhone, he said. >> >> At Apple's expense, Cava 22 seemed to benefit from the news coverage. >> The bar drew an unusually large crowd Wednesday night after the news >> broke, Valle said. >> >> CNET had been working with the police for two weeks, and officials >> failed to uncover any reports of a search, police spokesman Albie >> Esparza told CNN. Apple had not returned the official's phone call on >> Thursday, he said. In a message to Apple, the official told the >> company that he would refer reporters to its spokespeople if he did >> not receive a call. >> >> Police spokespeople say they weren't briefed on the investigation, >> which involved Apple and the police, until Friday. The mixup may be >> attributed to Apple's unwillingness to file a formal report or with a >> lack of communication between the various police departments involved. >> >> Police do not typically lie to reporters, even when discussing ongoing >> investigations, said Rebecca Lonergan, a former federal prosecutor who >> is now a professor at the University of Southern California's law >> school. However, in some cases, they are allowed to mislead suspects, >> she said. > > > Was that an original story investigated by you, or did you plagiarize again? Look before you leap,old proverb. San Francisco (CNN) -- Police officials said they helped Apple investigators, who searched a man's home here recently. |
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On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 11:57:38 -0400, PeterN
<> wrote: >On 9/3/2011 11:57 AM, Irwell wrote: >> On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 11:08:39 -0400, PeterN wrote: >> >>> On 9/3/2011 9:43 AM, RichA wrote: >>>> So the police are now letting "Apple personnel" search people's >>>> homes? How compliant. >>>> >>>> San Francisco (CNN) -- Police officials said they helped Apple >>>> investigators, who searched a man's home here recently. >>>> >>>> They were reportedly looking for a prototype of the next iPhone that >>>> an Apple employee left in a bar in San Francisco's Mission >>>> neighborhood, according to CNET. Apple had contacted the police >>>> claiming the prototype is invaluable, the report says. >>>> >>>> Four San Francisco Police officers escorted Apple investigators to a >>>> home in the city's Bernal Heights neighborhood, the statement said. >>>> The two Apple employees searched the home while the officers waited >>>> outside, police said. They did not find the item there and declined to >>>> file a police report, according to the statement. >>>> >>>> An Apple spokesman declined to comment. >>>> >>>> A city police official declined to comment to CNN and referred >>>> reporters to the news release. Earlier this week, officials said they >>>> had no record of an investigation. >>>> >>>> In the statement sent to CNN and other news media late Friday, police >>>> did not describe what "lost item" Apple was looking for. However, the >>>> file name of that news release is "iphone5.doc," as Reuters pointed >>>> out. >>>> >>>> Lt. Troy Dangerfield gave an interview to SF Weekly Friday afternoon >>>> confirming the police's involvement with Apple in the investigation. >>>> >>>> SF Weekly also interviewed a man who told the publication that he >>>> consented to having his home searched for a phone by six officers last >>>> month. No one in the group identified himself as being an Apple >>>> employee, the man told SF Weekly. He reportedly said that he assumed >>>> they were all police officials and would not have permitted entry if >>>> he knew the searchers were from Apple. >>>> >>>> Apple's team searched the home, car and computer files, while police >>>> waited outside, the reports say. The investigators reportedly told the >>>> man that they had traced the phone's GPS signal to his house. When >>>> asked, he said he had been at the same bar where the phone was >>>> reportedly lost but that he didn't have it, the report says. >>>> >>>> One of the investigators, who identified himself as Tony, gave the man >>>> living in the house a phone number and told him to call with any >>>> information about the lost phone, the report says. When the SF Weekly >>>> reporter called, a man named Anthony Colon, who said he was an Apple >>>> employee, answered, the report says. >>>> >>>> Colon's LinkedIn profile, which he eventually removed, said he is a >>>> senior investigator for Apple and a former San Jose police sergeant. >>>> >>>> The man, who reportedly said he's a U.S. citizen who lives with >>>> relatives, told SF Weekly that the people searching his home >>>> questioned his family's immigration status. >>>> >>>> The man could not be reached by CNN for comment. >>>> >>>> The situation is reminiscent of when an Apple engineer's prototype >>>> iPhone 4 was taken from a bar in Redwood City, also in the Bay Area, >>>> and sold to the blog Gizmodo, which published the first pictures of >>>> the device. >>>> >>>> Last year, Apple worked with the Rapid Enforcement Allied Computer >>>> Team task force to search the homes of the man who allegedly sold the >>>> device and of Gizmodo editor Jason Chen. >>>> >>>> REACT leader Michael Sterner said none of his officers were present at >>>> the home that was searched last month. He declined to comment further, >>>> citing a policy that prevents him from discussing investigations that >>>> are open or being handled by another department. >>>> >>>> Apple has a history of working with REACT but apparently did not seek >>>> its services this time. The task force has struggled recently over >>>> budget constraints, prompting the organization to shut down an office >>>> and employ fewer officers, Sterner said. >>>> >>>> Nor did Apple enlist the Federal Bureau of Investigation. An FBI >>>> spokesman said the cyber-program leader was not aware of such an >>>> investigation. >>>> >>>> Last time, an Apple employee lost his phone at a German beer garden. >>>> This time, it happened on Saturday, July 23 at tequila bar Cava 22, >>>> said Jose Valle, the bar's manager and the owner's son. A man called >>>> two days in a row after that, asking anxiously whether Valle had found >>>> an iPhone, he said. >>>> >>>> At Apple's expense, Cava 22 seemed to benefit from the news coverage. >>>> The bar drew an unusually large crowd Wednesday night after the news >>>> broke, Valle said. >>>> >>>> CNET had been working with the police for two weeks, and officials >>>> failed to uncover any reports of a search, police spokesman Albie >>>> Esparza told CNN. Apple had not returned the official's phone call on >>>> Thursday, he said. In a message to Apple, the official told the >>>> company that he would refer reporters to its spokespeople if he did >>>> not receive a call. >>>> >>>> Police spokespeople say they weren't briefed on the investigation, >>>> which involved Apple and the police, until Friday. The mixup may be >>>> attributed to Apple's unwillingness to file a formal report or with a >>>> lack of communication between the various police departments involved. >>>> >>>> Police do not typically lie to reporters, even when discussing ongoing >>>> investigations, said Rebecca Lonergan, a former federal prosecutor who >>>> is now a professor at the University of Southern California's law >>>> school. However, in some cases, they are allowed to mislead suspects, >>>> she said. >>> >>> >>> Was that an original story investigated by you, or did you plagiarize again? >> >> Look before you leap,old proverb. >> >> San Francisco (CNN) -- Police officials said they helped Apple >> investigators, who searched a man's home here recently. > >Where is his attribution. Between the parentheses. |
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On 9/3/2011 12:49 PM, John A. wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 11:57:38 -0400, PeterN > <> wrote: > >> On 9/3/2011 11:57 AM, Irwell wrote: >>> On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 11:08:39 -0400, PeterN wrote: >>> >>>> On 9/3/2011 9:43 AM, RichA wrote: >>>>> So the police are now letting "Apple personnel" search people's >>>>> homes? How compliant. >>>>> >>>>> San Francisco (CNN) -- Police officials said they helped Apple >>>>> investigators, who searched a man's home here recently. >>>>> >>>>> They were reportedly looking for a prototype of the next iPhone that >>>>> an Apple employee left in a bar in San Francisco's Mission >>>>> neighborhood, according to CNET. Apple had contacted the police >>>>> claiming the prototype is invaluable, the report says. >>>>> >>>>> Four San Francisco Police officers escorted Apple investigators to a >>>>> home in the city's Bernal Heights neighborhood, the statement said. >>>>> The two Apple employees searched the home while the officers waited >>>>> outside, police said. They did not find the item there and declined to >>>>> file a police report, according to the statement. >>>>> >>>>> An Apple spokesman declined to comment. >>>>> >>>>> A city police official declined to comment to CNN and referred >>>>> reporters to the news release. Earlier this week, officials said they >>>>> had no record of an investigation. >>>>> >>>>> In the statement sent to CNN and other news media late Friday, police >>>>> did not describe what "lost item" Apple was looking for. However, the >>>>> file name of that news release is "iphone5.doc," as Reuters pointed >>>>> out. >>>>> >>>>> Lt. Troy Dangerfield gave an interview to SF Weekly Friday afternoon >>>>> confirming the police's involvement with Apple in the investigation. >>>>> >>>>> SF Weekly also interviewed a man who told the publication that he >>>>> consented to having his home searched for a phone by six officers last >>>>> month. No one in the group identified himself as being an Apple >>>>> employee, the man told SF Weekly. He reportedly said that he assumed >>>>> they were all police officials and would not have permitted entry if >>>>> he knew the searchers were from Apple. >>>>> >>>>> Apple's team searched the home, car and computer files, while police >>>>> waited outside, the reports say. The investigators reportedly told the >>>>> man that they had traced the phone's GPS signal to his house. When >>>>> asked, he said he had been at the same bar where the phone was >>>>> reportedly lost but that he didn't have it, the report says. >>>>> >>>>> One of the investigators, who identified himself as Tony, gave the man >>>>> living in the house a phone number and told him to call with any >>>>> information about the lost phone, the report says. When the SF Weekly >>>>> reporter called, a man named Anthony Colon, who said he was an Apple >>>>> employee, answered, the report says. >>>>> >>>>> Colon's LinkedIn profile, which he eventually removed, said he is a >>>>> senior investigator for Apple and a former San Jose police sergeant. >>>>> >>>>> The man, who reportedly said he's a U.S. citizen who lives with >>>>> relatives, told SF Weekly that the people searching his home >>>>> questioned his family's immigration status. >>>>> >>>>> The man could not be reached by CNN for comment. >>>>> >>>>> The situation is reminiscent of when an Apple engineer's prototype >>>>> iPhone 4 was taken from a bar in Redwood City, also in the Bay Area, >>>>> and sold to the blog Gizmodo, which published the first pictures of >>>>> the device. >>>>> >>>>> Last year, Apple worked with the Rapid Enforcement Allied Computer >>>>> Team task force to search the homes of the man who allegedly sold the >>>>> device and of Gizmodo editor Jason Chen. >>>>> >>>>> REACT leader Michael Sterner said none of his officers were present at >>>>> the home that was searched last month. He declined to comment further, >>>>> citing a policy that prevents him from discussing investigations that >>>>> are open or being handled by another department. >>>>> >>>>> Apple has a history of working with REACT but apparently did not seek >>>>> its services this time. The task force has struggled recently over >>>>> budget constraints, prompting the organization to shut down an office >>>>> and employ fewer officers, Sterner said. >>>>> >>>>> Nor did Apple enlist the Federal Bureau of Investigation. An FBI >>>>> spokesman said the cyber-program leader was not aware of such an >>>>> investigation. >>>>> >>>>> Last time, an Apple employee lost his phone at a German beer garden. >>>>> This time, it happened on Saturday, July 23 at tequila bar Cava 22, >>>>> said Jose Valle, the bar's manager and the owner's son. A man called >>>>> two days in a row after that, asking anxiously whether Valle had found >>>>> an iPhone, he said. >>>>> >>>>> At Apple's expense, Cava 22 seemed to benefit from the news coverage. >>>>> The bar drew an unusually large crowd Wednesday night after the news >>>>> broke, Valle said. >>>>> >>>>> CNET had been working with the police for two weeks, and officials >>>>> failed to uncover any reports of a search, police spokesman Albie >>>>> Esparza told CNN. Apple had not returned the official's phone call on >>>>> Thursday, he said. In a message to Apple, the official told the >>>>> company that he would refer reporters to its spokespeople if he did >>>>> not receive a call. >>>>> >>>>> Police spokespeople say they weren't briefed on the investigation, >>>>> which involved Apple and the police, until Friday. The mixup may be >>>>> attributed to Apple's unwillingness to file a formal report or with a >>>>> lack of communication between the various police departments involved. >>>>> >>>>> Police do not typically lie to reporters, even when discussing ongoing >>>>> investigations, said Rebecca Lonergan, a former federal prosecutor who >>>>> is now a professor at the University of Southern California's law >>>>> school. However, in some cases, they are allowed to mislead suspects, >>>>> she said. >>>> >>>> >>>> Was that an original story investigated by you, or did you plagiarize again? >>> >>> Look before you leap,old proverb. >>> >>> San Francisco (CNN) -- Police officials said they helped Apple >>> investigators, who searched a man's home here recently. >> >> Where is his attribution. > > Between the parentheses. Oh! That makes it clear and easy to check the context. -- Peter |
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On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:28:04 -0400, PeterN
<> wrote: >On 9/3/2011 12:49 PM, John A. wrote: >> On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 11:57:38 -0400, PeterN >> <> wrote: >> >>> On 9/3/2011 11:57 AM, Irwell wrote: >>>> On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 11:08:39 -0400, PeterN wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 9/3/2011 9:43 AM, RichA wrote: >>>>>> So the police are now letting "Apple personnel" search people's >>>>>> homes? How compliant. >>>>>> >>>>>> San Francisco (CNN) -- Police officials said they helped Apple >>>>>> investigators, who searched a man's home here recently. >>>>>> >>>>>> They were reportedly looking for a prototype of the next iPhone that >>>>>> an Apple employee left in a bar in San Francisco's Mission >>>>>> neighborhood, according to CNET. Apple had contacted the police >>>>>> claiming the prototype is invaluable, the report says. >>>>>> >>>>>> Four San Francisco Police officers escorted Apple investigators to a >>>>>> home in the city's Bernal Heights neighborhood, the statement said. >>>>>> The two Apple employees searched the home while the officers waited >>>>>> outside, police said. They did not find the item there and declined to >>>>>> file a police report, according to the statement. >>>>>> >>>>>> An Apple spokesman declined to comment. >>>>>> >>>>>> A city police official declined to comment to CNN and referred >>>>>> reporters to the news release. Earlier this week, officials said they >>>>>> had no record of an investigation. >>>>>> >>>>>> In the statement sent to CNN and other news media late Friday, police >>>>>> did not describe what "lost item" Apple was looking for. However, the >>>>>> file name of that news release is "iphone5.doc," as Reuters pointed >>>>>> out. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lt. Troy Dangerfield gave an interview to SF Weekly Friday afternoon >>>>>> confirming the police's involvement with Apple in the investigation. >>>>>> >>>>>> SF Weekly also interviewed a man who told the publication that he >>>>>> consented to having his home searched for a phone by six officers last >>>>>> month. No one in the group identified himself as being an Apple >>>>>> employee, the man told SF Weekly. He reportedly said that he assumed >>>>>> they were all police officials and would not have permitted entry if >>>>>> he knew the searchers were from Apple. >>>>>> >>>>>> Apple's team searched the home, car and computer files, while police >>>>>> waited outside, the reports say. The investigators reportedly told the >>>>>> man that they had traced the phone's GPS signal to his house. When >>>>>> asked, he said he had been at the same bar where the phone was >>>>>> reportedly lost but that he didn't have it, the report says. >>>>>> >>>>>> One of the investigators, who identified himself as Tony, gave the man >>>>>> living in the house a phone number and told him to call with any >>>>>> information about the lost phone, the report says. When the SF Weekly >>>>>> reporter called, a man named Anthony Colon, who said he was an Apple >>>>>> employee, answered, the report says. >>>>>> >>>>>> Colon's LinkedIn profile, which he eventually removed, said he is a >>>>>> senior investigator for Apple and a former San Jose police sergeant. >>>>>> >>>>>> The man, who reportedly said he's a U.S. citizen who lives with >>>>>> relatives, told SF Weekly that the people searching his home >>>>>> questioned his family's immigration status. >>>>>> >>>>>> The man could not be reached by CNN for comment. >>>>>> >>>>>> The situation is reminiscent of when an Apple engineer's prototype >>>>>> iPhone 4 was taken from a bar in Redwood City, also in the Bay Area, >>>>>> and sold to the blog Gizmodo, which published the first pictures of >>>>>> the device. >>>>>> >>>>>> Last year, Apple worked with the Rapid Enforcement Allied Computer >>>>>> Team task force to search the homes of the man who allegedly sold the >>>>>> device and of Gizmodo editor Jason Chen. >>>>>> >>>>>> REACT leader Michael Sterner said none of his officers were present at >>>>>> the home that was searched last month. He declined to comment further, >>>>>> citing a policy that prevents him from discussing investigations that >>>>>> are open or being handled by another department. >>>>>> >>>>>> Apple has a history of working with REACT but apparently did not seek >>>>>> its services this time. The task force has struggled recently over >>>>>> budget constraints, prompting the organization to shut down an office >>>>>> and employ fewer officers, Sterner said. >>>>>> >>>>>> Nor did Apple enlist the Federal Bureau of Investigation. An FBI >>>>>> spokesman said the cyber-program leader was not aware of such an >>>>>> investigation. >>>>>> >>>>>> Last time, an Apple employee lost his phone at a German beer garden. >>>>>> This time, it happened on Saturday, July 23 at tequila bar Cava 22, >>>>>> said Jose Valle, the bar's manager and the owner's son. A man called >>>>>> two days in a row after that, asking anxiously whether Valle had found >>>>>> an iPhone, he said. >>>>>> >>>>>> At Apple's expense, Cava 22 seemed to benefit from the news coverage. >>>>>> The bar drew an unusually large crowd Wednesday night after the news >>>>>> broke, Valle said. >>>>>> >>>>>> CNET had been working with the police for two weeks, and officials >>>>>> failed to uncover any reports of a search, police spokesman Albie >>>>>> Esparza told CNN. Apple had not returned the official's phone call on >>>>>> Thursday, he said. In a message to Apple, the official told the >>>>>> company that he would refer reporters to its spokespeople if he did >>>>>> not receive a call. >>>>>> >>>>>> Police spokespeople say they weren't briefed on the investigation, >>>>>> which involved Apple and the police, until Friday. The mixup may be >>>>>> attributed to Apple's unwillingness to file a formal report or with a >>>>>> lack of communication between the various police departments involved. >>>>>> >>>>>> Police do not typically lie to reporters, even when discussing ongoing >>>>>> investigations, said Rebecca Lonergan, a former federal prosecutor who >>>>>> is now a professor at the University of Southern California's law >>>>>> school. However, in some cases, they are allowed to mislead suspects, >>>>>> she said. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Was that an original story investigated by you, or did you plagiarize again? >>>> >>>> Look before you leap,old proverb. >>>> >>>> San Francisco (CNN) -- Police officials said they helped Apple >>>> investigators, who searched a man's home here recently. >>> >>> Where is his attribution. >> >> Between the parentheses. > >Oh! That makes it clear and easy to check the context. Yup. Or at least clear enough if one actually cares to find it. |
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> PeterN<> wrote in > news:4e6271ba$0$5521$: > >> On 9/3/2011 12:49 PM, John A. wrote: >>> On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 11:57:38 -0400, PeterN >>> <> wrote: >>> >>>> On 9/3/2011 11:57 AM, Irwell wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 11:08:39 -0400, PeterN wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 9/3/2011 9:43 AM, RichA wrote: >>>>>>> So the police are now letting "Apple personnel" search people's >>>>>>> homes? How compliant. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> San Francisco (CNN) -- Police officials said they helped Apple >>>>>>> investigators, who searched a man's home here recently. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They were reportedly looking for a prototype of the next iPhone >>>>>>> that an Apple employee left in a bar in San Francisco's Mission >>>>>>> neighborhood, according to CNET. Apple had contacted the police >>>>>>> claiming the prototype is invaluable, the report says. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Four San Francisco Police officers escorted Apple investigators >>>>>>> to a home in the city's Bernal Heights neighborhood, the >>>>>>> statement said. The two Apple employees searched the home while >>>>>>> the officers waited outside, police said. They did not find the >>>>>>> item there and declined to file a police report, according to the >>>>>>> statement. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> An Apple spokesman declined to comment. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A city police official declined to comment to CNN and referred >>>>>>> reporters to the news release. Earlier this week, officials said >>>>>>> they had no record of an investigation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In the statement sent to CNN and other news media late Friday, >>>>>>> police did not describe what "lost item" Apple was looking for. >>>>>>> However, the file name of that news release is "iphone5.doc," as >>>>>>> Reuters pointed out. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lt. Troy Dangerfield gave an interview to SF Weekly Friday >>>>>>> afternoon confirming the police's involvement with Apple in the >>>>>>> investigation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> SF Weekly also interviewed a man who told the publication that he >>>>>>> consented to having his home searched for a phone by six officers >>>>>>> last month. No one in the group identified himself as being an >>>>>>> Apple employee, the man told SF Weekly. He reportedly said that >>>>>>> he assumed they were all police officials and would not have >>>>>>> permitted entry if he knew the searchers were from Apple. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Apple's team searched the home, car and computer files, while >>>>>>> police waited outside, the reports say. The investigators >>>>>>> reportedly told the man that they had traced the phone's GPS >>>>>>> signal to his house. When asked, he said he had been at the same >>>>>>> bar where the phone was reportedly lost but that he didn't have >>>>>>> it, the report says. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One of the investigators, who identified himself as Tony, gave >>>>>>> the man living in the house a phone number and told him to call >>>>>>> with any information about the lost phone, the report says. When >>>>>>> the SF Weekly reporter called, a man named Anthony Colon, who >>>>>>> said he was an Apple employee, answered, the report says. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Colon's LinkedIn profile, which he eventually removed, said he is >>>>>>> a senior investigator for Apple and a former San Jose police >>>>>>> sergeant. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The man, who reportedly said he's a U.S. citizen who lives with >>>>>>> relatives, told SF Weekly that the people searching his home >>>>>>> questioned his family's immigration status. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The man could not be reached by CNN for comment. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The situation is reminiscent of when an Apple engineer's >>>>>>> prototype iPhone 4 was taken from a bar in Redwood City, also in >>>>>>> the Bay Area, and sold to the blog Gizmodo, which published the >>>>>>> first pictures of the device. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Last year, Apple worked with the Rapid Enforcement Allied >>>>>>> Computer Team task force to search the homes of the man who >>>>>>> allegedly sold the device and of Gizmodo editor Jason Chen. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> REACT leader Michael Sterner said none of his officers were >>>>>>> present at the home that was searched last month. He declined to >>>>>>> comment further, citing a policy that prevents him from >>>>>>> discussing investigations that are open or being handled by >>>>>>> another department. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Apple has a history of working with REACT but apparently did not >>>>>>> seek its services this time. The task force has struggled >>>>>>> recently over budget constraints, prompting the organization to >>>>>>> shut down an office and employ fewer officers, Sterner said. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nor did Apple enlist the Federal Bureau of Investigation. An FBI >>>>>>> spokesman said the cyber-program leader was not aware of such an >>>>>>> investigation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Last time, an Apple employee lost his phone at a German beer >>>>>>> garden. This time, it happened on Saturday, July 23 at tequila >>>>>>> bar Cava 22, said Jose Valle, the bar's manager and the owner's >>>>>>> son. A man called two days in a row after that, asking anxiously >>>>>>> whether Valle had found an iPhone, he said. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> At Apple's expense, Cava 22 seemed to benefit from the news >>>>>>> coverage. The bar drew an unusually large crowd Wednesday night >>>>>>> after the news broke, Valle said. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> CNET had been working with the police for two weeks, and >>>>>>> officials failed to uncover any reports of a search, police >>>>>>> spokesman Albie Esparza told CNN. Apple had not returned the >>>>>>> official's phone call on Thursday, he said. In a message to >>>>>>> Apple, the official told the company that he would refer >>>>>>> reporters to its spokespeople if he did not receive a call. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Police spokespeople say they weren't briefed on the >>>>>>> investigation, which involved Apple and the police, until Friday. >>>>>>> The mixup may be attributed to Apple's unwillingness to file a >>>>>>> formal report or with a lack of communication between the various >>>>>>> police departments involved. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Police do not typically lie to reporters, even when discussing >>>>>>> ongoing investigations, said Rebecca Lonergan, a former federal >>>>>>> prosecutor who is now a professor at the University of Southern >>>>>>> California's law school. However, in some cases, they are allowed >>>>>>> to mislead suspects, she said. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Was that an original story investigated by you, or did you >>>>>> plagiarize again? >>>>> >>>>> Look before you leap,old proverb. >>>>> >>>>> San Francisco (CNN) -- Police officials said they helped Apple >>>>> investigators, who searched a man's home here recently. >>>> >>>> Where is his attribution. >>> >>> Between the parentheses. >> >> Oh! That makes it clear and easy to check the context. >> > > Enough with the tangenting, nitwit. Do you agree with Apple searching > people's homes now? Give me a link to the whole story and I can comment. It really isn't difficult to provide a link. I don't even want you searching my home. -- Peter |
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>So the police are now letting "Apple personnel" search people's >homes? How compliant. How dishonest of you. They did nothing of the sort. >San Francisco (CNN) -- Police officials said they helped Apple >investigators, who searched a man's home here recently. > >They were reportedly looking for a prototype of the next iPhone that >an Apple employee left in a bar in San Francisco's Mission >neighborhood, according to CNET. Apple had contacted the police >claiming the prototype is invaluable, the report says. > >Four San Francisco Police officers escorted Apple investigators to a >home in the city's Bernal Heights neighborhood, the statement said. Four? Or two? Or none? I've seen all of those claims in news reports. -- Ray Fischer | Mendocracy (n.) government by lying | The new GOP ideal |
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On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 12:42:49 -0400, PeterN wrote:
> On 9/4/2011 12:37 AM, Rich wrote: >> PeterN<> wrote in >> news:4e6271ba$0$5521$: >> >>> On 9/3/2011 12:49 PM, John A. wrote: >>>> On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 11:57:38 -0400, PeterN >>>> <> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 9/3/2011 11:57 AM, Irwell wrote: >>>>>> On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 11:08:39 -0400, PeterN wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9/3/2011 9:43 AM, RichA wrote: >>>>>>>> So the police are now letting "Apple personnel" search people's >>>>>>>> homes? How compliant. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> San Francisco (CNN) -- Police officials said they helped Apple >>>>>>>> investigators, who searched a man's home here recently. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They were reportedly looking for a prototype of the next iPhone >>>>>>>> that an Apple employee left in a bar in San Francisco's Mission >>>>>>>> neighborhood, according to CNET. Apple had contacted the police >>>>>>>> claiming the prototype is invaluable, the report says. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Four San Francisco Police officers escorted Apple investigators >>>>>>>> to a home in the city's Bernal Heights neighborhood, the >>>>>>>> statement said. The two Apple employees searched the home while >>>>>>>> the officers waited outside, police said. They did not find the >>>>>>>> item there and declined to file a police report, according to the >>>>>>>> statement. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> An Apple spokesman declined to comment. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A city police official declined to comment to CNN and referred >>>>>>>> reporters to the news release. Earlier this week, officials said >>>>>>>> they had no record of an investigation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In the statement sent to CNN and other news media late Friday, >>>>>>>> police did not describe what "lost item" Apple was looking for. >>>>>>>> However, the file name of that news release is "iphone5.doc," as >>>>>>>> Reuters pointed out. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lt. Troy Dangerfield gave an interview to SF Weekly Friday >>>>>>>> afternoon confirming the police's involvement with Apple in the >>>>>>>> investigation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> SF Weekly also interviewed a man who told the publication that he >>>>>>>> consented to having his home searched for a phone by six officers >>>>>>>> last month. No one in the group identified himself as being an >>>>>>>> Apple employee, the man told SF Weekly. He reportedly said that >>>>>>>> he assumed they were all police officials and would not have >>>>>>>> permitted entry if he knew the searchers were from Apple. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Apple's team searched the home, car and computer files, while >>>>>>>> police waited outside, the reports say. The investigators >>>>>>>> reportedly told the man that they had traced the phone's GPS >>>>>>>> signal to his house. When asked, he said he had been at the same >>>>>>>> bar where the phone was reportedly lost but that he didn't have >>>>>>>> it, the report says. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One of the investigators, who identified himself as Tony, gave >>>>>>>> the man living in the house a phone number and told him to call >>>>>>>> with any information about the lost phone, the report says. When >>>>>>>> the SF Weekly reporter called, a man named Anthony Colon, who >>>>>>>> said he was an Apple employee, answered, the report says. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Colon's LinkedIn profile, which he eventually removed, said he is >>>>>>>> a senior investigator for Apple and a former San Jose police >>>>>>>> sergeant. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The man, who reportedly said he's a U.S. citizen who lives with >>>>>>>> relatives, told SF Weekly that the people searching his home >>>>>>>> questioned his family's immigration status. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The man could not be reached by CNN for comment. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The situation is reminiscent of when an Apple engineer's >>>>>>>> prototype iPhone 4 was taken from a bar in Redwood City, also in >>>>>>>> the Bay Area, and sold to the blog Gizmodo, which published the >>>>>>>> first pictures of the device. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Last year, Apple worked with the Rapid Enforcement Allied >>>>>>>> Computer Team task force to search the homes of the man who >>>>>>>> allegedly sold the device and of Gizmodo editor Jason Chen. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> REACT leader Michael Sterner said none of his officers were >>>>>>>> present at the home that was searched last month. He declined to >>>>>>>> comment further, citing a policy that prevents him from >>>>>>>> discussing investigations that are open or being handled by >>>>>>>> another department. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Apple has a history of working with REACT but apparently did not >>>>>>>> seek its services this time. The task force has struggled >>>>>>>> recently over budget constraints, prompting the organization to >>>>>>>> shut down an office and employ fewer officers, Sterner said. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nor did Apple enlist the Federal Bureau of Investigation. An FBI >>>>>>>> spokesman said the cyber-program leader was not aware of such an >>>>>>>> investigation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Last time, an Apple employee lost his phone at a German beer >>>>>>>> garden. This time, it happened on Saturday, July 23 at tequila >>>>>>>> bar Cava 22, said Jose Valle, the bar's manager and the owner's >>>>>>>> son. A man called two days in a row after that, asking anxiously >>>>>>>> whether Valle had found an iPhone, he said. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> At Apple's expense, Cava 22 seemed to benefit from the news >>>>>>>> coverage. The bar drew an unusually large crowd Wednesday night >>>>>>>> after the news broke, Valle said. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> CNET had been working with the police for two weeks, and >>>>>>>> officials failed to uncover any reports of a search, police >>>>>>>> spokesman Albie Esparza told CNN. Apple had not returned the >>>>>>>> official's phone call on Thursday, he said. In a message to >>>>>>>> Apple, the official told the company that he would refer >>>>>>>> reporters to its spokespeople if he did not receive a call. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Police spokespeople say they weren't briefed on the >>>>>>>> investigation, which involved Apple and the police, until Friday. >>>>>>>> The mixup may be attributed to Apple's unwillingness to file a >>>>>>>> formal report or with a lack of communication between the various >>>>>>>> police departments involved. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Police do not typically lie to reporters, even when discussing >>>>>>>> ongoing investigations, said Rebecca Lonergan, a former federal >>>>>>>> prosecutor who is now a professor at the University of Southern >>>>>>>> California's law school. However, in some cases, they are allowed >>>>>>>> to mislead suspects, she said. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Was that an original story investigated by you, or did you >>>>>>> plagiarize again? >>>>>> >>>>>> Look before you leap,old proverb. >>>>>> >>>>>> San Francisco (CNN) -- Police officials said they helped Apple >>>>>> investigators, who searched a man's home here recently. >>>>> >>>>> Where is his attribution. >>>> >>>> Between the parentheses. >>> >>> Oh! That makes it clear and easy to check the context. >>> >> >> Enough with the tangenting, nitwit. Do you agree with Apple searching >> people's homes now? > > Give me a link to the whole story and I can comment. It really isn't > difficult to provide a link. Or in looking it up? You can manage to use the link I suppose. Police assisted Apple in search of man's home updated 1 day ago Police officials said they helped Apple investigators, who searched a man's home here recently. http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/mobile/...ype/index.html |
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