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PeterN
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      07-27-2011
On 7/25/2011 11:48 PM, RichA wrote:
> On Jul 25, 9:36 pm, "Neil Harrington"<n...@home.net> wrote:
>> Peter N wrote:
>>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 12:18:49 -0400, "Neil Harrington"<n...@home.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Alan Lichtenstein wrote:
>>>> An EVF-ILC like the Panasonic G series on the other hand makes a lot
>>>> of sense to me. While I'm still basically a Nikon guy (and will
>>>> remain so), I have Panasonic's G1 and G2 and I love 'em. It's that
>>>> spectacular 1.4-megadot EVF along with the cameras' several other
>>>> impressive features that makes all the difference.

>>
>>>> Such is definitely the opinion of a friend of mine who has the G1
>>>> and GF1,

>>
>>> I have a. Wiireless remote EVF for my D300
>>> .. While it is not cheap, it works well.

>>
>> Really? That sounds like a useful thing to have.

>
> Sounds cumbersome and completely contrary to the idea of mirrorless
> compact cameras.



Have you ever used one like mine. You don't even know which one I am
using but typically, you disparage it.

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      07-27-2011
On 7/25/2011 9:36 PM, Neil Harrington wrote:
> Peter N wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 12:18:49 -0400, "Neil Harrington"<>
>> wrote:
>>> Alan Lichtenstein wrote:
>>> An EVF-ILC like the Panasonic G series on the other hand makes a lot
>>> of sense to me. While I'm still basically a Nikon guy (and will
>>> remain so), I have Panasonic's G1 and G2 and I love 'em. It's that
>>> spectacular 1.4-megadot EVF along with the cameras' several other
>>> impressive features that makes all the difference.

>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Such is definitely the opinion of a friend of mine who has the G1
>>> and GF1,

>>
>> I have a. Wiireless remote EVF for my D300
>> .. While it is not cheap, it works well.

>
> Really? That sounds like a useful thing to have.
>
>


Read about it.

<http://www.hahnel.ie/index.cfm/page/dslrremotecontrols>

<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/743171-REG/hahnel_HL_HWINSPIRE_N_Inspire_Wireless_Remote_Cont rol.html>

As I said, it is not cheap, but I find it very useful.

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      07-29-2011
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 22:25:42 -0500, Rich <> wrote:

>PeterN <> wrote in news:4e2f55bd$0$12478
>$:
>
>> On 7/25/2011 11:48 PM, RichA wrote:
>>> On Jul 25, 9:36 pm, "Neil Harrington"<n...@home.net> wrote:
>>>> Peter N wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 12:18:49 -0400, "Neil Harrington"<n...@home.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Alan Lichtenstein wrote:
>>>>>> An EVF-ILC like the Panasonic G series on the other hand makes a

>lot
>>>>>> of sense to me. While I'm still basically a Nikon guy (and will
>>>>>> remain so), I have Panasonic's G1 and G2 and I love 'em. It's that
>>>>>> spectacular 1.4-megadot EVF along with the cameras' several other
>>>>>> impressive features that makes all the difference.
>>>>
>>>>>> Such is definitely the opinion of a friend of mine who has the G1
>>>>>> and GF1,
>>>>
>>>>> I have a. Wiireless remote EVF for my D300
>>>>> .. While it is not cheap, it works well.
>>>>
>>>> Really? That sounds like a useful thing to have.
>>>
>>> Sounds cumbersome and completely contrary to the idea of mirrorless
>>> compact cameras.

>>
>>
>> Have you ever used one like mine. You don't even know which one I am
>> using but typically, you disparage it.
>>

>
> Do you look like someone in a cheap scifi when you use it?


I think he already mentioned it's not cheap.
 
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      07-29-2011
On 7/28/2011 11:25 PM, Rich wrote:
> PeterN<> wrote in news:4e2f55bd$0$12478
> $:
>
>> On 7/25/2011 11:48 PM, RichA wrote:
>>> On Jul 25, 9:36 pm, "Neil Harrington"<n...@home.net> wrote:
>>>> Peter N wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 12:18:49 -0400, "Neil Harrington"<n...@home.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Alan Lichtenstein wrote:
>>>>>> An EVF-ILC like the Panasonic G series on the other hand makes a

> lot
>>>>>> of sense to me. While I'm still basically a Nikon guy (and will
>>>>>> remain so), I have Panasonic's G1 and G2 and I love 'em. It's that
>>>>>> spectacular 1.4-megadot EVF along with the cameras' several other
>>>>>> impressive features that makes all the difference.
>>>>
>>>>>> Such is definitely the opinion of a friend of mine who has the G1
>>>>>> and GF1,
>>>>
>>>>> I have a. Wiireless remote EVF for my D300
>>>>> .. While it is not cheap, it works well.
>>>>
>>>> Really? That sounds like a useful thing to have.
>>>
>>> Sounds cumbersome and completely contrary to the idea of mirrorless
>>> compact cameras.

>>
>>
>> Have you ever used one like mine. You don't even know which one I am
>> using but typically, you disparage it.
>>

>
> Do you look like someone in a cheap scifi when you use it?



Your ignorance and/or stupidity is underwhelming.

If you don't like it, don't use it.


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Robert Coe
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      07-29-2011
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 22:25:42 -0500, Rich <> wrote:
: PeterN <> wrote in news:4e2f55bd$0$12478
: $:
:
: > On 7/25/2011 11:48 PM, RichA wrote:
: >> On Jul 25, 9:36 pm, "Neil Harrington"<n...@home.net> wrote:
: >>> Peter N wrote:
: >>>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 12:18:49 -0400, "Neil Harrington"<n...@home.net>
: >>>> wrote:
: >>>>> Alan Lichtenstein wrote:
: >>>>> An EVF-ILC like the Panasonic G series on the other hand makes a
: lot
: >>>>> of sense to me. While I'm still basically a Nikon guy (and will
: >>>>> remain so), I have Panasonic's G1 and G2 and I love 'em. It's that
: >>>>> spectacular 1.4-megadot EVF along with the cameras' several other
: >>>>> impressive features that makes all the difference.
: >>>
: >>>>> Such is definitely the opinion of a friend of mine who has the G1
: >>>>> and GF1,
: >>>
: >>>> I have a. Wiireless remote EVF for my D300
: >>>> .. While it is not cheap, it works well.
: >>>
: >>> Really? That sounds like a useful thing to have.
: >>
: >> Sounds cumbersome and completely contrary to the idea of mirrorless
: >> compact cameras.
: >
: >
: > Have you ever used one like mine. You don't even know which one I am
: > using but typically, you disparage it.
: >
:
: Do you look like someone in a cheap scifi when you use it?

Another gem from the grandmaster of non-sequiturs. :^)

Bob
 
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      07-31-2011
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 10:26:42 -0400, Alan Lichtenstein <>
wrote:

>RichA wrote:
>> Please tell me that this isn't a 1/2.3 or 1/1.7" sensor!! I thought
>> it was going to be just a tad smaller than m4/3?? Does Nikon have a
>> vested interest in protecting the mirror-slapping camera designs?
>> Like how a camera equal to the D3x but 1/2 the size couldn't possibly
>> command a $10k price tag? Except for Leica.
>>
>> http://nikonrumors.com/2011/07/21/pi...px/#more-21106
>>

>
>IMHO, Nikon doesn't need to have a vested interest in protecting the
>mirror-slapping camera designs, as you so derisively call them. Olympus
>has found out, most likely, the hard way, that the mirrorless designs
>aren't the greatest invention since canned beer that they thought they
>would be. If the rumors are to be believed( one of which I recently
>heard in this NG as a response to a post I made ), Olympus has now
>reversed its decision to abandon its E-x and E-xx lines, and will once
>again, produce more recent iterations to these lines( they already have
>introduced the E-5 ). Although, as one poster stated, it will be a
>major engineering feat to increase the resolution in the 4/3 sensor( the
>E-5 only has 12.3 megapixels, IMHO, inadequate for a professional level
>camera which Olympus claims it is ), which will be necessary to enable
>current Olympus users to use their digital lenses in future cameras.
>
>I had always believed that there was a reason Nikon and Canon didn't
>enter this market. I wonder if this is simply a rumor or simply a
>perfunctory entry into a market where Nikon doesn't really expect to
>earn much, but just wants to have a presence because they are Nikon, and
>they should.


If they did manage to significantly increase resolution in a
small sensor, wouldn't that greatly increase "noise" in the pictures?
I've read that the closer together the photosites are, the more noisy
you can expect the photo to be, even with CMOS sensors.
 
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      07-31-2011
In article <>,
<> wrote:

> If they did manage to significantly increase resolution in a
> small sensor, wouldn't that greatly increase "noise" in the pictures?
> I've read that the closer together the photosites are, the more noisy
> you can expect the photo to be, even with CMOS sensors.


for the same sensor technology, that's true, however, they keep
improving sensors and nikon's mirrorless camera supposedly uses a
backside illuminated sensor, which will be a major plus.
 
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