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On 8/16/2011 8:20 AM, ChrisCoaster wrote:
> On Aug 16, 11:15 am, ChrisCoaster<ckozi...@snet.net> wrote:
>> On Jul 17, 1:34 pm, James D Andrews<jamesdandr...@att.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> ChrisCoaster embroidered on the monitor :
>>
>>>> On Jun 27, 2:10 pm, Paul<nos...@needed.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Some computer brands, have great third party web pages to
>>>>> support them. This is an example. HP has their user to user
>>>>> forum, but I don't know if it goes into this much detail.
>>
>>>>> http://www.goodells.net/dellrestore/
>>
>>>>> Paul- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>> ____________________________
>>>> *** B R E A K I N G N E W S ***
>>
>>>> Paul, et al!!
>>
>>>> I just in the past half hour wrapped up creating a set of recovery
>>>> DVDs for this damn Pavilion 6300F. I examined them in DIRECT SUNLIGHT
>>>> and there is definitely something written on all three DVDs. Three
>>>> and a half weeks after recovering my OS with HP DVDs and reinstalling
>>>> a schlep-load of apps, earlier this morning Recovery Manager mozies
>>>> across my screen and asks if I want to create a set of recovery
>>>> discs. And so I did. And the procedure took about 3 hours.
>>
>>>> I don't like dredging up old topics but I need to confess something
>>>> before putting this to bed, finally: Back in spring 2008, when I
>>>> unboxed and set up this PC and created the recovery DVDs, somewhere,
>>>> somehow, though I will never likely recall . . . . I
>>
>>>> ****ED
>>
>>>> UP.
>>
>>>> The directions to follow when creating recovery CDs or DVDs are so
>>>> clear even my cat could understand them, but nonetheless, I repeat at
>>>> the risk of being crude . . . I
>>
>>>> ****ED
>>
>>>> UP.
>>
>>>> (somehow!)
>>
>>>> And the reason I believe I did is because I successfully created audio
>>>> CDs on this computer - although some CD players could not play past
>>>> the 12th track or so out of 20 on the disc - I did create usable CDs
>>>> on this burner.
>>
>>>> So in closing I thank you all for your patience in trying to determine
>>>> just WHAT THE F$#(&#K happened, and now I possess actual recovery DVDs
>>>> with actual DATA on them.
>>
>>>> -Chris(who sometimes amazes even himself!)Coaster LOL....
>>
>>> Glad you got a good set to work with Chris. Hope everything else works
>>> out OK.
>>
>>> --
>>> -There are some who call me...
>>> Jim
>>
>>> "Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's
>>> troublesome."
>>> - Isaac Asimov- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> ________________________
>> In addition it keeps saying there is a problem with MS Word! What
>> does word have to do with my printing out map directions from Bing??
>>
>> -CC- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> ___________
> Also when I double click the open "printer"-like icon in the
> systray(the one that appears when the printer is *supposed to be*
> printing), in the title bar it says "unable to connect". Obviously I
> have taken all the steps, physically disconnecting/reconnecting the
> cables, deleting and reinstalling the printer drivers direct from HP.
> It seems like it's more a windows spooler problem than my f4180 HP
> printer.
>
> -CC
The unable to connect is referring to a logical connection.

1. physically remove the printer cable and start the computer.
2. When all is up and running, bring up the control panel and delete the
printer.
3. shut down the computer normally, including power off. Leave the
printer disconnected.
4. turn the computer back on and get everything up and running.
5. now, plug in the printer data cable back into the computer.
6. The plug-and-play will recognize a new printer and will re-establish
the correct logical connection.

Paul

On Aug 16, 5:12*pm, Paul Drahn <pdr...@webformixair.com> wrote:
> On 8/16/2011 8:20 AM, ChrisCoaster wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 16, 11:15 am, ChrisCoaster<ckozi...@snet.net> *wrote:
> >> On Jul 17, 1:34 pm, James D Andrews<jamesdandr...@att.net> *wrote:
>
> >>> ChrisCoaster embroidered on the monitor :
>
> >>>> On Jun 27, 2:10 pm, Paul<nos...@needed.com> *wrote:
>
> >>>>> Some computer brands, have great third party web pages to
> >>>>> support them. This is an example. HP has their user to user
> >>>>> forum, but I don't know if it goes into this much detail.
>
> >>>>>http://www.goodells.net/dellrestore/
>
> >>>>> * * *Paul- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>> ____________________________
> >>>> *** B R E A K I N G * *N E W S ***
>
> >>>> Paul, et al!!
>
> >>>> I just in the past half hour wrapped up creating a set of recovery
> >>>> DVDs for this damn Pavilion 6300F. *I examined them in DIRECT SUNLIGHT
> >>>> and there is definitely something written on all three DVDs. *Three
> >>>> and a half weeks after recovering my OS with HP DVDs and reinstalling
> >>>> a schlep-load of apps, earlier this morning Recovery Manager mozies
> >>>> across my screen and asks if I want to create a set of recovery
> >>>> discs. *And so I did. *And the procedure took about 3 hours.
>
> >>>> I don't like dredging up old topics but I need to confess something
> >>>> before putting this to bed, finally: *Back in spring 2008, when I
> >>>> unboxed and set up this PC and created the recovery DVDs, somewhere,
> >>>> somehow, though I will never likely recall . . . . *I
>
> >>>> ****ED
>
> >>>> UP.
>
> >>>> The directions to follow when creating recovery CDs or DVDs are so
> >>>> clear even my cat could understand them, but nonetheless, I repeat at
> >>>> the risk of being crude . . . I
>
> >>>> ****ED
>
> >>>> UP.
>
> >>>> (somehow!)
>
> >>>> And the reason I believe I did is because I successfully created audio
> >>>> CDs on this computer - although some CD players could not play past
> >>>> the 12th track or so out of 20 on the disc - I did create usable CDs
> >>>> on this burner.
>
> >>>> So in closing I thank you all for your patience in trying to determine
> >>>> just WHAT THE F$#(&#K happened, and now I possess actual recovery DVDs
> >>>> with actual DATA on them.
>
> >>>> -Chris(who sometimes amazes even himself!)Coaster *LOL....
>
> >>> Glad you got a good set to work with Chris. *Hope everything else works
> >>> out OK.
>
> >>> --
> >>> -There are some who call me...
> >>> Jim
>
> >>> "Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's
> >>> troublesome."
> >>> - Isaac Asimov- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>> - Show quoted text -
>
> >> ________________________
> >> In addition it keeps saying there is a problem with MS Word! *What
> >> does word have to do with my printing out map directions from Bing??
>
> >> -CC- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > ___________
> > Also when I double click the open "printer"-like icon in the
> > systray(the one that appears when the printer is *supposed to be*
> > printing), in the title bar it says "unable to connect". *Obviously I
> > have taken all the steps, physically disconnecting/reconnecting the
> > cables, deleting and reinstalling the printer drivers direct from HP.
> > It seems like it's more a windows spooler problem than my f4180 HP
> > printer.
>
> > -CC
>
> The unable to connect is referring to a logical connection.
>
> 1. physically remove the printer cable and start the computer.
> 2. When all is up and running, bring up the control panel and delete the
> printer.
> 3. shut down the computer normally, including power off. Leave the
> printer disconnected.
> 4. turn the computer back on and get everything up and running.
> 5. now, plug in the printer data cable back into the computer.
> 6. The plug-and-play will recognize a new printer and will re-establish
> the correct logical connection.
>
> Paul- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
__________________
Thanks Paul. Seems like we have two great Pauls onhere! I will
attempt teh above process tmorrow once my head is clear. As you all
can read my keyboard has astartede skipping/typing extyra charagters
again!! >

-ChirsCoaster

On Aug 16, 5:12*pm, Paul Drahn <pdr...@webformixair.com> wrote:
> On 8/16/2011 8:20 AM, ChrisCoaster wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 16, 11:15 am, ChrisCoaster<ckozi...@snet.net> *wrote:
> >> On Jul 17, 1:34 pm, James D Andrews<jamesdandr...@att.net> *wrote:
>
> >>> ChrisCoaster embroidered on the monitor :
>
> >>>> On Jun 27, 2:10 pm, Paul<nos...@needed.com> *wrote:
>
> >>>>> Some computer brands, have great third party web pages to
> >>>>> support them. This is an example. HP has their user to user
> >>>>> forum, but I don't know if it goes into this much detail.
>
> >>>>>http://www.goodells.net/dellrestore/
>
> >>>>> * * *Paul- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>> ____________________________
> >>>> *** B R E A K I N G * *N E W S ***
>
> >>>> Paul, et al!!
>
> >>>> I just in the past half hour wrapped up creating a set of recovery
> >>>> DVDs for this damn Pavilion 6300F. *I examined them in DIRECT SUNLIGHT
> >>>> and there is definitely something written on all three DVDs. *Three
> >>>> and a half weeks after recovering my OS with HP DVDs and reinstalling
> >>>> a schlep-load of apps, earlier this morning Recovery Manager mozies
> >>>> across my screen and asks if I want to create a set of recovery
> >>>> discs. *And so I did. *And the procedure took about 3 hours.
>
> >>>> I don't like dredging up old topics but I need to confess something
> >>>> before putting this to bed, finally: *Back in spring 2008, when I
> >>>> unboxed and set up this PC and created the recovery DVDs, somewhere,
> >>>> somehow, though I will never likely recall . . . . *I
>
> >>>> ****ED
>
> >>>> UP.
>
> >>>> The directions to follow when creating recovery CDs or DVDs are so
> >>>> clear even my cat could understand them, but nonetheless, I repeat at
> >>>> the risk of being crude . . . I
>
> >>>> ****ED
>
> >>>> UP.
>
> >>>> (somehow!)
>
> >>>> And the reason I believe I did is because I successfully created audio
> >>>> CDs on this computer - although some CD players could not play past
> >>>> the 12th track or so out of 20 on the disc - I did create usable CDs
> >>>> on this burner.
>
> >>>> So in closing I thank you all for your patience in trying to determine
> >>>> just WHAT THE F$#(&#K happened, and now I possess actual recovery DVDs
> >>>> with actual DATA on them.
>
> >>>> -Chris(who sometimes amazes even himself!)Coaster *LOL....
>
> >>> Glad you got a good set to work with Chris. *Hope everything else works
> >>> out OK.
>
> >>> --
> >>> -There are some who call me...
> >>> Jim
>
> >>> "Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's
> >>> troublesome."
> >>> - Isaac Asimov- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>> - Show quoted text -
>
> >> ________________________
> >> In addition it keeps saying there is a problem with MS Word! *What
> >> does word have to do with my printing out map directions from Bing??
>
> >> -CC- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > ___________
> > Also when I double click the open "printer"-like icon in the
> > systray(the one that appears when the printer is *supposed to be*
> > printing), in the title bar it says "unable to connect". *Obviously I
> > have taken all the steps, physically disconnecting/reconnecting the
> > cables, deleting and reinstalling the printer drivers direct from HP.
> > It seems like it's more a windows spooler problem than my f4180 HP
> > printer.
>
> > -CC
>
> The unable to connect is referring to a logical connection.
>
> 1. physically remove the printer cable and start the computer.
> 2. When all is up and running, bring up the control panel and delete the
> printer.
> 3. shut down the computer normally, including power off. Leave the
> printer disconnected.
> 4. turn the computer back on and get everything up and running.
> 5. now, plug in the printer data cable back into the computer.
> 6. The plug-and-play will recognize a new printer and will re-establish
> the correct logical connection.
>
> Paul
__________________
Paul! Performed all above steps - printer *seems* to be alright - for
now.

Paul, you and *Paul* are models to this newsgroup. Your patience and
willingness to explain things through are examples to me and,
hopefully, to others on here.

Now I hate to keep bringing up old ghosts but issues keep cropping up
since I restored this HP since it's "blutn trauma injury back in
June": The skipping keyboard is back. Also, even on this Google site
when I check "Keep Me Logged In" in the check box - I come back in an
hour, turn on myPC, and have to log in anyway. Same for Yahoo and any
other rgular logins I do.

What's nect?

-CC

On Aug 18, 7:47*am, ChrisCoaster <ckozi...@snet.net> wrote:
> On Aug 16, 5:12*pm, Paul Drahn <pdr...@webformixair.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 8/16/2011 8:20 AM, ChrisCoaster wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 16, 11:15 am, ChrisCoaster<ckozi...@snet.net> *wrote:
> > >> On Jul 17, 1:34 pm, James D Andrews<jamesdandr...@att.net> *wrote:
>
> > >>> ChrisCoaster embroidered on the monitor :
>
> > >>>> On Jun 27, 2:10 pm, Paul<nos...@needed.com> *wrote:
>
> > >>>>> Some computer brands, have great third party web pages to
> > >>>>> support them. This is an example. HP has their user to user
> > >>>>> forum, but I don't know if it goes into this much detail.
>
> > >>>>>http://www.goodells.net/dellrestore/
>
> > >>>>> * * *Paul- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >>>>> - Show quoted text -
> > >>>> ____________________________
> > >>>> *** B R E A K I N G * *N E W S ***
>
> > >>>> Paul, et al!!
>
> > >>>> I just in the past half hour wrapped up creating a set of recovery
> > >>>> DVDs for this damn Pavilion 6300F. *I examined them in DIRECT SUNLIGHT
> > >>>> and there is definitely something written on all three DVDs. *Three
> > >>>> and a half weeks after recovering my OS with HP DVDs and reinstalling
> > >>>> a schlep-load of apps, earlier this morning Recovery Manager mozies
> > >>>> across my screen and asks if I want to create a set of recovery
> > >>>> discs. *And so I did. *And the procedure took about 3 hours.
>
> > >>>> I don't like dredging up old topics but I need to confess something
> > >>>> before putting this to bed, finally: *Back in spring 2008, when I
> > >>>> unboxed and set up this PC and created the recovery DVDs, somewhere,
> > >>>> somehow, though I will never likely recall . . . . *I
>
> > >>>> ****ED
>
> > >>>> UP.
>
> > >>>> The directions to follow when creating recovery CDs or DVDs are so
> > >>>> clear even my cat could understand them, but nonetheless, I repeatat
> > >>>> the risk of being crude . . . I
>
> > >>>> ****ED
>
> > >>>> UP.
>
> > >>>> (somehow!)
>
> > >>>> And the reason I believe I did is because I successfully created audio
> > >>>> CDs on this computer - although some CD players could not play past
> > >>>> the 12th track or so out of 20 on the disc - I did create usable CDs
> > >>>> on this burner.
>
> > >>>> So in closing I thank you all for your patience in trying to determine
> > >>>> just WHAT THE F$#(&#K happened, and now I possess actual recovery DVDs
> > >>>> with actual DATA on them.
>
> > >>>> -Chris(who sometimes amazes even himself!)Coaster *LOL....
>
> > >>> Glad you got a good set to work with Chris. *Hope everything elseworks
> > >>> out OK.
>
> > >>> --
> > >>> -There are some who call me...
> > >>> Jim
>
> > >>> "Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's
> > >>> troublesome."
> > >>> - Isaac Asimov- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >>> - Show quoted text -
>
> > >> ________________________
> > >> In addition it keeps saying there is a problem with MS Word! *What
> > >> does word have to do with my printing out map directions from Bing??
>
> > >> -CC- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > ___________
> > > Also when I double click the open "printer"-like icon in the
> > > systray(the one that appears when the printer is *supposed to be*
> > > printing), in the title bar it says "unable to connect". *ObviouslyI
> > > have taken all the steps, physically disconnecting/reconnecting the
> > > cables, deleting and reinstalling the printer drivers direct from HP.
> > > It seems like it's more a windows spooler problem than my f4180 HP
> > > printer.
>
> > > -CC
>
> > The unable to connect is referring to a logical connection.
>
> > 1. physically remove the printer cable and start the computer.
> > 2. When all is up and running, bring up the control panel and delete the
> > printer.
> > 3. shut down the computer normally, including power off. Leave the
> > printer disconnected.
> > 4. turn the computer back on and get everything up and running.
> > 5. now, plug in the printer data cable back into the computer.
> > 6. The plug-and-play will recognize a new printer and will re-establish
> > the correct logical connection.
>
> > Paul
>
> __________________
> Paul! *Performed all above steps - printer *seems* to be alright - for
> now.
>
> Paul, you and *Paul* are models to this newsgroup. *Your patience and
> willingness to explain things through are examples to me and,
> hopefully, to others on here.
>
> Now I hate to keep bringing up old ghosts but issues keep cropping up
> since I restored this HP since it's "blutn trauma injury back in
> June": *The skipping keyboard is back. *Also, even on this Google site
> when I check "Keep Me Logged In" in the check box - I come back in an
> hour, turn on myPC, and have to log in anyway. Same for Yahoo and any
> other rgular logins I do.
>
> What's nect?
>
> -CC- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
_______________________
Guess you guys have given up on my computer. Understandable! I'll
even take a couple "GET A NEW MACHINE!!!" comments at this point.
LOL.

-CC

ChrisCoaster wrote:
> On Aug 18, 7:47 am, ChrisCoaster <ckozi...@snet.net> wrote:
>> On Aug 16, 5:12 pm, Paul Drahn <pdr...@webformixair.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 8/16/2011 8:20 AM, ChrisCoaster wrote:
>>>> On Aug 16, 11:15 am, ChrisCoaster<ckozi...@snet.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 17, 1:34 pm, James D Andrews<jamesdandr...@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>> ChrisCoaster embroidered on the monitor :
>>>>>>> On Jun 27, 2:10 pm, Paul<nos...@needed.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Some computer brands, have great third party web pages to
>>>>>>>> support them. This is an example. HP has their user to user
>>>>>>>> forum, but I don't know if it goes into this much detail.
>>>>>>>> http://www.goodells.net/dellrestore/
>>>>>>>> Paul- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>> ____________________________
>>>>>>> *** B R E A K I N G N E W S ***
>>>>>>> Paul, et al!!
>>>>>>> I just in the past half hour wrapped up creating a set of recovery
>>>>>>> DVDs for this damn Pavilion 6300F. I examined them in DIRECT SUNLIGHT
>>>>>>> and there is definitely something written on all three DVDs. Three
>>>>>>> and a half weeks after recovering my OS with HP DVDs and reinstalling
>>>>>>> a schlep-load of apps, earlier this morning Recovery Manager mozies
>>>>>>> across my screen and asks if I want to create a set of recovery
>>>>>>> discs. And so I did. And the procedure took about 3 hours.
>>>>>>> I don't like dredging up old topics but I need to confess something
>>>>>>> before putting this to bed, finally: Back in spring 2008, when I
>>>>>>> unboxed and set up this PC and created the recovery DVDs, somewhere,
>>>>>>> somehow, though I will never likely recall . . . . I
>>>>>>> ****ED
>>>>>>> UP.
>>>>>>> The directions to follow when creating recovery CDs or DVDs are so
>>>>>>> clear even my cat could understand them, but nonetheless, I repeat at
>>>>>>> the risk of being crude . . . I
>>>>>>> ****ED
>>>>>>> UP.
>>>>>>> (somehow!)
>>>>>>> And the reason I believe I did is because I successfully created audio
>>>>>>> CDs on this computer - although some CD players could not play past
>>>>>>> the 12th track or so out of 20 on the disc - I did create usable CDs
>>>>>>> on this burner.
>>>>>>> So in closing I thank you all for your patience in trying to determine
>>>>>>> just WHAT THE F$#(&#K happened, and now I possess actual recovery DVDs
>>>>>>> with actual DATA on them.
>>>>>>> -Chris(who sometimes amazes even himself!)Coaster LOL....
>>>>>> Glad you got a good set to work with Chris. Hope everything else works
>>>>>> out OK.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> -There are some who call me...
>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>> "Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's
>>>>>> troublesome."
>>>>>> - Isaac Asimov- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>> ________________________
>>>>> In addition it keeps saying there is a problem with MS Word! What
>>>>> does word have to do with my printing out map directions from Bing??
>>>>> -CC- Hide quoted text -
>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>> ___________
>>>> Also when I double click the open "printer"-like icon in the
>>>> systray(the one that appears when the printer is *supposed to be*
>>>> printing), in the title bar it says "unable to connect". Obviously I
>>>> have taken all the steps, physically disconnecting/reconnecting the
>>>> cables, deleting and reinstalling the printer drivers direct from HP.
>>>> It seems like it's more a windows spooler problem than my f4180 HP
>>>> printer.
>>>> -CC
>>> The unable to connect is referring to a logical connection.
>>> 1. physically remove the printer cable and start the computer.
>>> 2. When all is up and running, bring up the control panel and delete the
>>> printer.
>>> 3. shut down the computer normally, including power off. Leave the
>>> printer disconnected.
>>> 4. turn the computer back on and get everything up and running.
>>> 5. now, plug in the printer data cable back into the computer.
>>> 6. The plug-and-play will recognize a new printer and will re-establish
>>> the correct logical connection.
>>> Paul
>> __________________
>> Paul! Performed all above steps - printer *seems* to be alright - for
>> now.
>>
>> Paul, you and *Paul* are models to this newsgroup. Your patience and
>> willingness to explain things through are examples to me and,
>> hopefully, to others on here.
>>
>> Now I hate to keep bringing up old ghosts but issues keep cropping up
>> since I restored this HP since it's "blutn trauma injury back in
>> June": The skipping keyboard is back. Also, even on this Google site
>> when I check "Keep Me Logged In" in the check box - I come back in an
>> hour, turn on myPC, and have to log in anyway. Same for Yahoo and any
>> other rgular logins I do.
>>
>> What's nect?
>>
>> -CC- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
> _______________________
> Guess you guys have given up on my computer. Understandable! I'll
> even take a couple "GET A NEW MACHINE!!!" comments at this point.
> LOL.
>
> -CC

Wouldn't a "keep me logged in" option, rely on some regular
communications ? If you sleep or hibernate the machine,
I don't see a reason for the state to be preserved that well.
The network connection should time out at the server (Google) end,
and then, when your machine wakes up and attempts to use the
same connection, the state information on the other end is lost.

If the "keep me logged in", instead just provides a cached password
on demand, and isn't keeping the connection alive, then that should
always work (as long as the connection to the Internet is available
when you need it).

There are a limited number of things to experiment with on the
keyboard. You can try a different OS (to rule out a software issue).
You can try another keyboard (using the same port type as before).
Or you can try another keyboard that uses a different port type (PS/2
or USB, depending on what you had before). That might be
easier than swapping out a motherboard, on the chance it was an
issue with the port itself (or even a cable for that matter). Once you've
replaced the motherboard, there is always the power supply. A power
supply with excessive ripple on the output for example, might upset
the operation of some hardware in the computer.

So I wouldn't exactly "get a new machine" - I'd use my junk pile,
to swap out a bit of hardware at a time, and see if the symptoms change.
Years ago, on one computer build, I bought pretty close to twice as
many components, as are needed to build a computer, by using the swapping
method and trying to fix stuff. If doesn't take long, when doing
your own computer maintenance, before you amass a junk pile.

Paul

On Aug 20, 11:35*am, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> ChrisCoaster wrote:
> > On Aug 18, 7:47 am, ChrisCoaster <ckozi...@snet.net> wrote:
> >> On Aug 16, 5:12 pm, Paul Drahn <pdr...@webformixair.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On 8/16/2011 8:20 AM, ChrisCoaster wrote:
> >>>> On Aug 16, 11:15 am, ChrisCoaster<ckozi...@snet.net> *wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 17, 1:34 pm, James D Andrews<jamesdandr...@att.net> *wrote:
> >>>>>> ChrisCoaster embroidered on the monitor :
> >>>>>>> On Jun 27, 2:10 pm, Paul<nos...@needed.com> *wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Some computer brands, have great third party web pages to
> >>>>>>>> support them. This is an example. HP has their user to user
> >>>>>>>> forum, but I don't know if it goes into this much detail.
> >>>>>>>>http://www.goodells.net/dellrestore/
> >>>>>>>> * * *Paul- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>>>> ____________________________
> >>>>>>> *** B R E A K I N G * *N E W S ***
> >>>>>>> Paul, et al!!
> >>>>>>> I just in the past half hour wrapped up creating a set of recovery
> >>>>>>> DVDs for this damn Pavilion 6300F. *I examined them in DIRECT SUNLIGHT
> >>>>>>> and there is definitely something written on all three DVDs. *Three
> >>>>>>> and a half weeks after recovering my OS with HP DVDs and reinstalling
> >>>>>>> a schlep-load of apps, earlier this morning Recovery Manager mozies
> >>>>>>> across my screen and asks if I want to create a set of recovery
> >>>>>>> discs. *And so I did. *And the procedure took about 3 hours.
> >>>>>>> I don't like dredging up old topics but I need to confess something
> >>>>>>> before putting this to bed, finally: *Back in spring 2008, whenI
> >>>>>>> unboxed and set up this PC and created the recovery DVDs, somewhere,
> >>>>>>> somehow, though I will never likely recall . . . . *I
> >>>>>>> ****ED
> >>>>>>> UP.
> >>>>>>> The directions to follow when creating recovery CDs or DVDs are so
> >>>>>>> clear even my cat could understand them, but nonetheless, I repeat at
> >>>>>>> the risk of being crude . . . I
> >>>>>>> ****ED
> >>>>>>> UP.
> >>>>>>> (somehow!)
> >>>>>>> And the reason I believe I did is because I successfully created audio
> >>>>>>> CDs on this computer - although some CD players could not play past
> >>>>>>> the 12th track or so out of 20 on the disc - I did create usable CDs
> >>>>>>> on this burner.
> >>>>>>> So in closing I thank you all for your patience in trying to determine
> >>>>>>> just WHAT THE F$#(&#K happened, and now I possess actual recoveryDVDs
> >>>>>>> with actual DATA on them.
> >>>>>>> -Chris(who sometimes amazes even himself!)Coaster *LOL....
> >>>>>> Glad you got a good set to work with Chris. *Hope everything else works
> >>>>>> out OK.
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> -There are some who call me...
> >>>>>> Jim
> >>>>>> "Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's
> >>>>>> troublesome."
> >>>>>> - Isaac Asimov- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>> ________________________
> >>>>> In addition it keeps saying there is a problem with MS Word! *What
> >>>>> does word have to do with my printing out map directions from Bing??
> >>>>> -CC- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>> ___________
> >>>> Also when I double click the open "printer"-like icon in the
> >>>> systray(the one that appears when the printer is *supposed to be*
> >>>> printing), in the title bar it says "unable to connect". *Obviously I
> >>>> have taken all the steps, physically disconnecting/reconnecting the
> >>>> cables, deleting and reinstalling the printer drivers direct from HP..
> >>>> It seems like it's more a windows spooler problem than my f4180 HP
> >>>> printer.
> >>>> -CC
> >>> The unable to connect is referring to a logical connection.
> >>> 1. physically remove the printer cable and start the computer.
> >>> 2. When all is up and running, bring up the control panel and delete the
> >>> printer.
> >>> 3. shut down the computer normally, including power off. Leave the
> >>> printer disconnected.
> >>> 4. turn the computer back on and get everything up and running.
> >>> 5. now, plug in the printer data cable back into the computer.
> >>> 6. The plug-and-play will recognize a new printer and will re-establish
> >>> the correct logical connection.
> >>> Paul
> >> __________________
> >> Paul! *Performed all above steps - printer *seems* to be alright - for
> >> now.
>
> >> Paul, you and *Paul* are models to this newsgroup. *Your patience and
> >> willingness to explain things through are examples to me and,
> >> hopefully, to others on here.
>
> >> Now I hate to keep bringing up old ghosts but issues keep cropping up
> >> since I restored this HP since it's "blutn trauma injury back in
> >> June": *The skipping keyboard is back. *Also, even on this Google site
> >> when I check "Keep Me Logged In" in the check box - I come back in an
> >> hour, turn on myPC, and have to log in anyway. Same for Yahoo and any
> >> other rgular logins I do.
>
> >> What's nect?
>
> >> -CC- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
> > _______________________
> > Guess you guys have given up on my computer. Understandable! *I'll
> > even take a couple "GET A NEW MACHINE!!!" comments at this point.
> > LOL.
>
> > -CC
>
> Wouldn't a "keep me logged in" option, rely on some regular
> communications ? If you sleep or hibernate the machine,
> I don't see a reason for the state to be preserved that well.
> The network connection should time out at the server (Google) end,
> and then, when your machine wakes up and attempts to use the
> same connection, the state information on the other end is lost.
>
> If the "keep me logged in", instead just provides a cached password
> on demand, and isn't keeping the connection alive, then that should
> always work (as long as the connection to the Internet is available
> when you need it).
>
> There are a limited number of things to experiment with on the
> keyboard. You can try a different OS (to rule out a software issue).
> You can try another keyboard (using the same port type as before).
> Or you can try another keyboard that uses a different port type (PS/2
> or USB, depending on what you had before). That might be
> easier than swapping out a motherboard, on the chance it was an
> issue with the port itself (or even a cable for that matter). Once you've
> replaced the motherboard, there is always the power supply. A power
> supply with excessive ripple on the output for example, might upset
> the operation of some hardware in the computer.
>
> So I wouldn't exactly "get a new machine" - I'd use my junk pile,
> to swap out a bit of hardware at a time, and see if the symptoms change.
> Years ago, on one computer build, I bought pretty close to twice as
> many components, as are needed to build a computer, by using the swapping
> method and trying to fix stuff. If doesn't take long, when doing
> your own computer maintenance, before you amass a junk pile.
>
> * * Paul- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
____________________
LOL!

Again, keeping me logged in worked - until I had to replace my hard
disk and recover the PC. And I check that little box everytime I log
inhere and elsehwere.

All these things likely point to damage beyond the hard drive from
when I whacked - OOPS, did I confess something?



-ChrisCoaster

On Aug 20, 7:18*pm, ChrisCoaster <ckozi...@snet.net> wrote:
> On Aug 20, 11:35*am, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >ChrisCoasterwrote:
> > > On Aug 18, 7:47 am,ChrisCoaster<ckozi...@snet.net> wrote:
> > >> On Aug 16, 5:12 pm, Paul Drahn <pdr...@webformixair.com> wrote:
>
> > >>> On 8/16/2011 8:20 AM,ChrisCoasterwrote:
> > >>>> On Aug 16, 11:15 am,ChrisCoaster<ckozi...@snet.net> *wrote:
> > >>>>> On Jul 17, 1:34 pm, James D Andrews<jamesdandr...@att.net> *wrote:
> > >>>>>>ChrisCoasterembroidered on the monitor :
> > >>>>>>> On Jun 27, 2:10 pm, Paul<nos...@needed.com> *wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> Some computer brands, have great third party web pages to
> > >>>>>>>> support them. This is an example. HP has their user to user
> > >>>>>>>> forum, but I don't know if it goes into this much detail.
> > >>>>>>>>http://www.goodells.net/dellrestore/
> > >>>>>>>> * * *Paul- Hide quoted text -
> > >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> > >>>>>>> ____________________________
> > >>>>>>> *** B R E A K I N G * *N E W S ***
> > >>>>>>> Paul, et al!!
> > >>>>>>> I just in the past half hour wrapped up creating a set of recovery
> > >>>>>>> DVDs for this damn Pavilion 6300F. *I examined them in DIRECTSUNLIGHT
> > >>>>>>> and there is definitely something written on all three DVDs. *Three
> > >>>>>>> and a half weeks after recovering my OS with HP DVDs and reinstalling
> > >>>>>>> a schlep-load of apps, earlier this morning Recovery Manager mozies
> > >>>>>>> across my screen and asks if I want to create a set of recovery
> > >>>>>>> discs. *And so I did. *And the procedure took about 3 hours..
> > >>>>>>> I don't like dredging up old topics but I need to confess something
> > >>>>>>> before putting this to bed, finally: *Back in spring 2008, when I
> > >>>>>>> unboxed and set up this PC and created the recovery DVDs, somewhere,
> > >>>>>>> somehow, though I will never likely recall . . . . *I
> > >>>>>>> ****ED
> > >>>>>>> UP.
> > >>>>>>> The directions to follow when creating recovery CDs or DVDs areso
> > >>>>>>> clear even my cat could understand them, but nonetheless, I repeat at
> > >>>>>>> the risk of being crude . . . I
> > >>>>>>> ****ED
> > >>>>>>> UP.
> > >>>>>>> (somehow!)
> > >>>>>>> And the reason I believe I did is because I successfully created audio
> > >>>>>>> CDs on this computer - although some CD players could not play past
> > >>>>>>> the 12th track or so out of 20 on the disc - I did create usable CDs
> > >>>>>>> on this burner.
> > >>>>>>> So in closing I thank you all for your patience in trying to determine
> > >>>>>>> just WHAT THE F$#(&#K happened, and now I possess actual recovery DVDs
> > >>>>>>> with actual DATA on them.
> > >>>>>>> -Chris(who sometimes amazes even himself!)Coaster *LOL....
> > >>>>>> Glad you got a good set to work with Chris. *Hope everything else works
> > >>>>>> out OK.
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>>> -There are some who call me...
> > >>>>>> Jim
> > >>>>>> "Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's
> > >>>>>> troublesome."
> > >>>>>> - Isaac Asimov- Hide quoted text -
> > >>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> > >>>>> ________________________
> > >>>>> In addition it keeps saying there is a problem with MS Word! *What
> > >>>>> does word have to do with my printing out map directions from Bing??
> > >>>>> -CC- Hide quoted text -
> > >>>>> - Show quoted text -
> > >>>> ___________
> > >>>> Also when I double click the open "printer"-like icon in the
> > >>>> systray(the one that appears when the printer is *supposed to be*
> > >>>> printing), in the title bar it says "unable to connect". *Obviously I
> > >>>> have taken all the steps, physically disconnecting/reconnecting the
> > >>>> cables, deleting and reinstalling the printer drivers direct from HP.
> > >>>> It seems like it's more a windows spooler problem than my f4180 HP
> > >>>> printer.
> > >>>> -CC
> > >>> The unable to connect is referring to a logical connection.
> > >>> 1. physically remove the printer cable and start the computer.
> > >>> 2. When all is up and running, bring up the control panel and delete the
> > >>> printer.
> > >>> 3. shut down the computer normally, including power off. Leave the
> > >>> printer disconnected.
> > >>> 4. turn the computer back on and get everything up and running.
> > >>> 5. now, plug in the printer data cable back into the computer.
> > >>> 6. The plug-and-play will recognize a new printer and will re-establish
> > >>> the correct logical connection.
> > >>> Paul
> > >> __________________
> > >> Paul! *Performed all above steps - printer *seems* to be alright -for
> > >> now.
>
> > >> Paul, you and *Paul* are models to this newsgroup. *Your patience and
> > >> willingness to explain things through are examples to me and,
> > >> hopefully, to others on here.
>
> > >> Now I hate to keep bringing up old ghosts but issues keep cropping up
> > >> since I restored this HP since it's "blutn trauma injury back in
> > >> June": *The skipping keyboard is back. *Also, even on this Google site
> > >> when I check "Keep Me Logged In" in the check box - I come back in an
> > >> hour, turn on myPC, and have to log in anyway. Same for Yahoo and any
> > >> other rgular logins I do.
>
> > >> What's nect?
>
> > >> -CC- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
> > > _______________________
> > > Guess you guys have given up on my computer. Understandable! *I'll
> > > even take a couple "GET A NEW MACHINE!!!" comments at this point.
> > > LOL.
>
> > > -CC
>
> > Wouldn't a "keep me logged in" option, rely on some regular
> > communications ? If you sleep or hibernate the machine,
> > I don't see a reason for the state to be preserved that well.
> > The network connection should time out at the server (Google) end,
> > and then, when your machine wakes up and attempts to use the
> > same connection, the state information on the other end is lost.
>
> > If the "keep me logged in", instead just provides a cached password
> > on demand, and isn't keeping the connection alive, then that should
> > always work (as long as the connection to the Internet is available
> > when you need it).
>
> > There are a limited number of things to experiment with on the
> > keyboard. You can try a different OS (to rule out a software issue).
> > You can try another keyboard (using the same port type as before).
> > Or you can try another keyboard that uses a different port type (PS/2
> > or USB, depending on what you had before). That might be
> > easier than swapping out a motherboard, on the chance it was an
> > issue with the port itself (or even a cable for that matter). Once you've
> > replaced the motherboard, there is always the power supply. A power
> > supply with excessive ripple on the output for example, might upset
> > the operation of some hardware in the computer.
>
> > So I wouldn't exactly "get a new machine" - I'd use my junk pile,
> > to swap out a bit of hardware at a time, and see if the symptoms change..
> > Years ago, on one computer build, I bought pretty close to twice as
> > many components, as are needed to build a computer, by using the swapping
> > method and trying to fix stuff. If doesn't take long, when doing
> > your own computer maintenance, before you amass a junk pile.
>
> > * * Paul- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> ____________________
> LOL!
>
> Again, keeping me logged in worked - until I had to replace my hard
> disk and recover the PC. *And I check that little box everytime I log
> inhere and elsehwere.
>
> All these things likely point to damage beyond the hard drive from
> when I whacked - OOPS, did I confess something?
>
>
>
> -ChrisCoaster- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
___________________________________
** NEW PROBLEM PROBABLY RELATED TO ALL OF THE ABOVE - "PRINT SPOOLER
HAS STOPPED WORKING" MSG WHEN PRINTING FROM INTERNET!! **

I do not get this message when printing from MS Office 2010(Word,
Powerpoint, or Excel). I have tried the various solutions suggested
on:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...-5d11010b65c0/

and NONE of them work. I know it's not the HP Printer itself because
it printed fine from any/all sources before the hard drive replacement/
system rebuild of June-July. And the MS website assistance about this
very issue is USELESS.

-ChrisCoaster

ChrisCoaster wrote:

> ** NEW PROBLEM PROBABLY RELATED TO ALL OF THE ABOVE - "PRINT SPOOLER
> HAS STOPPED WORKING" MSG WHEN PRINTING FROM INTERNET!! **
>
> I do not get this message when printing from MS Office 2010(Word,
> Powerpoint, or Excel). I have tried the various solutions suggested
> on:
> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...-5d11010b65c0/
>
> and NONE of them work. I know it's not the HP Printer itself because
> it printed fine from any/all sources before the hard drive replacement/
> system rebuild of June-July. And the MS website assistance about this
> very issue is USELESS.
>
> -ChrisCoaster

The basic architecture is here. It's hard to see how it's falling over,
unless something like RPC (remote procedure call) was broken, and if
that was broken, the machine would probably stop working altogether.

http://blogs.technet.com/b/askperf/a...hitecture.aspx

Maybe the act of printing, has caused the print spooler to damage something
it uses as a resource. So it's not a direct interaction as such (web browser
pokes spooler in the eye), but more indirect (spooler "eats bad ravioli" and dies).
So maybe it's something malformed, going to the spooler.

"Enable or disable logging of printing events"
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...96(WS.10).aspx

I don't know if turning on the logging of "informational events" would help.

Personally, I'd rather the printing subsystem just had a log file you could
look at, in plain English. I'm not a big fan in general, of Event Viewer
and other forms of System Logging, as they're a hindrance rather than a help.

Paul

> Personally, I'd rather the printing subsystem just had a log file you could
> look at, in plain English. I'm not a big fan in general, of Event Viewer
> and other forms of System Logging, as they're a hindrance rather than a help.
>
> * * Paul
__________________

Application errors immediately leading up to the print spooler errors:
Faulting application spoolsv.exe, version 6.0.6002.18294, time stamp
0x4c6a9898, faulting module hpz3r64X.dll, version 61.71.266.34, time
stamp 0x492a7a47, exception code 0xc0000005, fault offset 0x001029d9,
process id 0x6c4, application start time 0x01cc835039c9831e.

Print spooler error details itself(not the notification, the actual
error):
Document
http://www.bing.com/maps/print.aspx?...49&cmh=629&u=0
failed to print and was deleted because of corruption in the spooled
file. The associated driver is: HP Deskjet F4100 series. Try printing
the document again.

Clear as mud?

Again this was not happening until I kicked my PC in anger in June and
had to replace the hard drive and recover the OS. Also to this day my
Printer's Introductory window occasionally pops up asking me if I want
to register the 4100 with HP! I already did that aeons ago!!

Is there really no solution other than to just buy a new PC?

-ChrisCoaster

On Oct 5, 2:30*pm, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> ChrisCoaster wrote:
> > ** NEW PROBLEM PROBABLY RELATED TO ALL OF THE ABOVE - "PRINT SPOOLER
> > HAS STOPPED WORKING" MSG WHEN PRINTING FROM INTERNET!! **
>
> > I do not get this message when printing from MS Office 2010(Word,
> > Powerpoint, or Excel). *I have tried the various solutions suggested
> > on:
> >http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...istaprinting/t...
>
> > and NONE of them work. *I know it's not the HP Printer itself because
> > it printed fine from any/all sources before the hard drive replacement/
> > system rebuild of June-July. *And the MS website assistance about this
> > very issue is USELESS.
>
> > -ChrisCoaster
>
> The basic architecture is here. It's hard to see how it's falling over,
> unless something like RPC (remote procedure call) was broken, and if
> that was broken, the machine would probably stop working altogether.
>
> http://blogs.technet.com/b/askperf/a...asic-printing-...
>
> Maybe the act of printing, has caused the print spooler to damage something
> it uses as a resource. So it's not a direct interaction as such (web browser
> pokes spooler in the eye), but more indirect (spooler "eats bad ravioli" and dies).
> So maybe it's something malformed, going to the spooler.
>
> "Enable or disable logging of printing events"http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc784896(WS.10).aspx
>
> I don't know if turning on the logging of "informational events" would help.
>
> Personally, I'd rather the printing subsystem just had a log file you could
> look at, in plain English. I'm not a big fan in general, of Event Viewer
> and other forms of System Logging, as they're a hindrance rather than a help.
>
> * * Paul
----------------------
Aaand...I've reinstalled the printer driver too many times to count.

LOL

-ChrisCoaster