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Geopelia
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      06-14-2011
I have got an email about upgrading Yahoo mail.
Is this the same as Yahoo xtra mail please?

The mail I have got is Yahoo xtra, I think.
The emails come in with the newsgroups down below on the left.

XP, OutlookExpress. Telecom

Thank you
Geopelia



 
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Dave Doe
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      06-15-2011
In article <it8mm2$4pn$>, , Geopelia
says...
>
> I have got an email about upgrading Yahoo mail.
> Is this the same as Yahoo xtra mail please?


Yes, probably - they are doing an e-mail upgrade - so it's probably
legitimate. Who is the e-mail from (you didn't say).

Check online if you wish: http://nz.yahoo.com
or:
http://www.telecom.co.nz/broadband/email

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Geopelia
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      06-15-2011

"Dave Doe" <> wrote in message
news:...
> In article <it8mm2$4pn$>, , Geopelia
> says...
>>
>> I have got an email about upgrading Yahoo mail.
>> Is this the same as Yahoo xtra mail please?

>
> Yes, probably - they are doing an e-mail upgrade - so it's probably
> legitimate. Who is the e-mail from (you didn't say).
>
> Check online if you wish: http://nz.yahoo.com
> or:
> http://www.telecom.co.nz/broadband/email
>


It's from Yahoo! Mail headed SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT

It doesn't look like spam.

I don't use Yahoo mail at all. There are over 90 emails, all updates in my
groups, which come in on the xtra inbox, so I don't need them from Yahoo
too.

Thank you
Geopelia


 
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Dave Doe
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      06-15-2011
In article <it9gnd$amh$>, , Geopelia
says...
>
> "Dave Doe" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > In article <it8mm2$4pn$>, , Geopelia
> > says...
> >>
> >> I have got an email about upgrading Yahoo mail.
> >> Is this the same as Yahoo xtra mail please?

> >
> > Yes, probably - they are doing an e-mail upgrade - so it's probably
> > legitimate. Who is the e-mail from (you didn't say).
> >
> > Check online if you wish: http://nz.yahoo.com
> > or:
> > http://www.telecom.co.nz/broadband/email
> >

>
> It's from Yahoo! Mail headed SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT
>
> It doesn't look like spam.
>
> I don't use Yahoo mail at all. There are over 90 emails, all updates in my
> groups, which come in on the xtra inbox, so I don't need them from Yahoo
> too.


If you are with Xtra, then yes, you *are* using Yahoo mail (Xtra
contracted out their e-mail service to them a year or more ago (ages
ago)).

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Frank Williams
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      06-15-2011
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:41:57 +1200, "Geopelia" <>
wrote:

>
>"Dave Doe" <> wrote in message
>news:...
>> In article <it8mm2$4pn$>, , Geopelia
>> says...
>>>
>>> I have got an email about upgrading Yahoo mail.
>>> Is this the same as Yahoo xtra mail please?

>>
>> Yes, probably - they are doing an e-mail upgrade - so it's probably
>> legitimate. Who is the e-mail from (you didn't say).
>>
>> Check online if you wish: http://nz.yahoo.com
>> or:
>> http://www.telecom.co.nz/broadband/email
>>

>
> It's from Yahoo! Mail headed SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT
>
>It doesn't look like spam.
>
>I don't use Yahoo mail at all. There are over 90 emails, all updates in my
>groups, which come in on the xtra inbox, so I don't need them from Yahoo
>too.
>
>Thank you
>Geopelia
>




Its Malware/Spyware I get a few every week, they are after your email
log on ID and pass word
 
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David Empson
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      06-15-2011
Geopelia <> wrote:

> "Dave Doe" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > In article <it8mm2$4pn$>, , Geopelia
> > says...
> >>
> >> I have got an email about upgrading Yahoo mail.
> >> Is this the same as Yahoo xtra mail please?

> >
> > Yes, probably - they are doing an e-mail upgrade - so it's probably
> > legitimate. Who is the e-mail from (you didn't say).
> >
> > Check online if you wish: http://nz.yahoo.com
> > or:
> > http://www.telecom.co.nz/broadband/email
> >

>
> It's from Yahoo! Mail headed SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT
>
> It doesn't look like spam.


I got it as well. It is not spam.

> I don't use Yahoo mail at all. There are over 90 emails, all updates in my
> groups, which come in on the xtra inbox, so I don't need them from Yahoo
> too.


Xtra outsourced their e-mail service to Yahoo several years ago.

Since then, everyone who is an Xtra customer is using Yahoo for their
mail, but you may have been unaware of this.

The message I received is referring to changes that Yahoo are making in
their webmail service, which you might never have accessed. If you did,
you would probably have done so by visiting http://xtra.co.nz/ which
redirects to http://nz.yahoo.com/ and then signing in an clicking on an
E-Mail link, and typing in your Xtra e-mail address and the password for
your e-mail account.

Yahoo have at least two versions of their webmail user interface - the
"Classic" one and a newer one. The message implies that they have either
updated the new one or replaced it with an even newer one. They are
asking you to log in to your e-mail account and switch over to the new
service. If you don't do that then in a month or so, it will be forced
upon you the next time you try to access your webmail.

If you never access webmail and never will in future, you probably don't
have to do anything and can ignore the message.

I can't see anything suggesting this will affect use of standard e-mail
client software running on your computer.

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Geopelia
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      06-15-2011

"Frank Williams" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:41:57 +1200, "Geopelia" <>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Dave Doe" <> wrote in message
>>news:...
>>> In article <it8mm2$4pn$>, , Geopelia
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> I have got an email about upgrading Yahoo mail.
>>>> Is this the same as Yahoo xtra mail please?
>>>
>>> Yes, probably - they are doing an e-mail upgrade - so it's probably
>>> legitimate. Who is the e-mail from (you didn't say).
>>>
>>> Check online if you wish: http://nz.yahoo.com
>>> or:
>>> http://www.telecom.co.nz/broadband/email
>>>

>>
>> It's from Yahoo! Mail headed SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT
>>
>>It doesn't look like spam.
>>
>>I don't use Yahoo mail at all. There are over 90 emails, all updates in my
>>groups, which come in on the xtra inbox, so I don't need them from Yahoo
>>too.
>>
>>Thank you
>>Geopelia
>>

>
>
>
> Its Malware/Spyware I get a few every week, they are after your email
> log on ID and pass word


I don't think that is the same site, it has the agreement terms, privacy
policy etc.


 
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Geopelia
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      06-15-2011

"David Empson" <> wrote in message
news:1k2xbxz.5ulbltepf8pvN%.. .
> Geopelia <> wrote:
>
>> "Dave Doe" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>> > In article <it8mm2$4pn$>, , Geopelia
>> > says...
>> >>
>> >> I have got an email about upgrading Yahoo mail.
>> >> Is this the same as Yahoo xtra mail please?
>> >
>> > Yes, probably - they are doing an e-mail upgrade - so it's probably
>> > legitimate. Who is the e-mail from (you didn't say).
>> >
>> > Check online if you wish: http://nz.yahoo.com
>> > or:
>> > http://www.telecom.co.nz/broadband/email
>> >

>>
>> It's from Yahoo! Mail headed SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT
>>
>> It doesn't look like spam.

>
> I got it as well. It is not spam.
>
>> I don't use Yahoo mail at all. There are over 90 emails, all updates in
>> my
>> groups, which come in on the xtra inbox, so I don't need them from Yahoo
>> too.

>
> Xtra outsourced their e-mail service to Yahoo several years ago.
>
> Since then, everyone who is an Xtra customer is using Yahoo for their
> mail, but you may have been unaware of this.
>
> The message I received is referring to changes that Yahoo are making in
> their webmail service, which you might never have accessed. If you did,
> you would probably have done so by visiting http://xtra.co.nz/ which
> redirects to http://nz.yahoo.com/ and then signing in an clicking on an
> E-Mail link, and typing in your Xtra e-mail address and the password for
> your e-mail account.
>
> Yahoo have at least two versions of their webmail user interface - the
> "Classic" one and a newer one. The message implies that they have either
> updated the new one or replaced it with an even newer one. They are
> asking you to log in to your e-mail account and switch over to the new
> service. If you don't do that then in a month or so, it will be forced
> upon you the next time you try to access your webmail.
>
> If you never access webmail and never will in future, you probably don't
> have to do anything and can ignore the message.
>
> I can't see anything suggesting this will affect use of standard e-mail
> client software running on your computer.
>


I have a different user name and password for the Yahoo mail, but found it
very difficult to use, also it used to freeze the computer, so I haven't
used it for years. All that comes in are updates in my groups, which I get
on xtra as well.

Thank you
Geopelia


 
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Dave Doe
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      06-15-2011
In article <ita97g$g6q$>, , Geopelia
says...
>
> "David Empson" <> wrote in message
> news:1k2xbxz.5ulbltepf8pvN%.. .
> > Geopelia <> wrote:
> >
> >> "Dave Doe" <> wrote in message
> >> news:...
> >> > In article <it8mm2$4pn$>, , Geopelia
> >> > says...
> >> >>
> >> >> I have got an email about upgrading Yahoo mail.
> >> >> Is this the same as Yahoo xtra mail please?
> >> >
> >> > Yes, probably - they are doing an e-mail upgrade - so it's probably
> >> > legitimate. Who is the e-mail from (you didn't say).
> >> >
> >> > Check online if you wish: http://nz.yahoo.com
> >> > or:
> >> > http://www.telecom.co.nz/broadband/email
> >> >
> >>
> >> It's from Yahoo! Mail headed SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT
> >>
> >> It doesn't look like spam.

> >
> > I got it as well. It is not spam.
> >
> >> I don't use Yahoo mail at all. There are over 90 emails, all updates in
> >> my
> >> groups, which come in on the xtra inbox, so I don't need them from Yahoo
> >> too.

> >
> > Xtra outsourced their e-mail service to Yahoo several years ago.
> >
> > Since then, everyone who is an Xtra customer is using Yahoo for their
> > mail, but you may have been unaware of this.
> >
> > The message I received is referring to changes that Yahoo are making in
> > their webmail service, which you might never have accessed. If you did,
> > you would probably have done so by visiting http://xtra.co.nz/ which
> > redirects to http://nz.yahoo.com/ and then signing in an clicking on an
> > E-Mail link, and typing in your Xtra e-mail address and the password for
> > your e-mail account.
> >
> > Yahoo have at least two versions of their webmail user interface - the
> > "Classic" one and a newer one. The message implies that they have either
> > updated the new one or replaced it with an even newer one. They are
> > asking you to log in to your e-mail account and switch over to the new
> > service. If you don't do that then in a month or so, it will be forced
> > upon you the next time you try to access your webmail.
> >
> > If you never access webmail and never will in future, you probably don't
> > have to do anything and can ignore the message.
> >
> > I can't see anything suggesting this will affect use of standard e-mail
> > client software running on your computer.
> >

>
> I have a different user name and password for the Yahoo mail, but found it
> very difficult to use, also it used to freeze the computer, so I haven't
> used it for years. All that comes in are updates in my groups, which I get
> on xtra as well.


Again... this is not about any Yahoo a/c you may have. This concerns
your Xtra/Yahoo a/c (your Xtra e-mail account) - which, as I've said,
and David has said, Xtra contracted Yahoo to do their e-mail a year or
two ago.

ping send.xtra.co.nz
Pinging smtp1.tnz.mail.vip.aue.yahoo.com [124.108.96.68]

ping pop3.xtra.co.nz
Pinging pop1.tnz.mail.vip.aue.yahoo.com [124.108.96.66]

If you do an IP address lookup, the servers are in SA, Australia.

And... (presumably) because Xtra outsourced their e-mail services, they
have to provide additional security to their customers, so they use
encrypted connections both to and from the Yahoo e-mail servers. That
means non-standard settings in your e-mail client program (eg. Outlook
Express) - and this caused a *chitload* of grief for probably tens of
thousands of Xtra's customers in New Zealand.

My advice back then is the same as today - I advised, and still do, to
ditch Xtra and get a better, cheaper ISP that provides easier to use
services (particularly e-mail which is probably the most important
service) and a better helpdesk should you need it.

The short of it is, Xtra *still suck*

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Dave Doe
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      06-15-2011
In article <>,
, Dave Doe says...
>
> In article <ita97g$g6q$>, , Geopelia
> says...
> >
> > "David Empson" <> wrote in message
> > news:1k2xbxz.5ulbltepf8pvN%.. .
> > > Geopelia <> wrote:
> > >
> > >> "Dave Doe" <> wrote in message
> > >> news:...
> > >> > In article <it8mm2$4pn$>, , Geopelia
> > >> > says...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I have got an email about upgrading Yahoo mail.
> > >> >> Is this the same as Yahoo xtra mail please?
> > >> >
> > >> > Yes, probably - they are doing an e-mail upgrade - so it's probably
> > >> > legitimate. Who is the e-mail from (you didn't say).
> > >> >
> > >> > Check online if you wish: http://nz.yahoo.com
> > >> > or:
> > >> > http://www.telecom.co.nz/broadband/email
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> It's from Yahoo! Mail headed SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT
> > >>
> > >> It doesn't look like spam.
> > >
> > > I got it as well. It is not spam.
> > >
> > >> I don't use Yahoo mail at all. There are over 90 emails, all updates in
> > >> my
> > >> groups, which come in on the xtra inbox, so I don't need them from Yahoo
> > >> too.
> > >
> > > Xtra outsourced their e-mail service to Yahoo several years ago.
> > >
> > > Since then, everyone who is an Xtra customer is using Yahoo for their
> > > mail, but you may have been unaware of this.
> > >
> > > The message I received is referring to changes that Yahoo are making in
> > > their webmail service, which you might never have accessed. If you did,
> > > you would probably have done so by visiting http://xtra.co.nz/ which
> > > redirects to http://nz.yahoo.com/ and then signing in an clicking on an
> > > E-Mail link, and typing in your Xtra e-mail address and the password for
> > > your e-mail account.
> > >
> > > Yahoo have at least two versions of their webmail user interface - the
> > > "Classic" one and a newer one. The message implies that they have either
> > > updated the new one or replaced it with an even newer one. They are
> > > asking you to log in to your e-mail account and switch over to the new
> > > service. If you don't do that then in a month or so, it will be forced
> > > upon you the next time you try to access your webmail.
> > >
> > > If you never access webmail and never will in future, you probably don't
> > > have to do anything and can ignore the message.
> > >
> > > I can't see anything suggesting this will affect use of standard e-mail
> > > client software running on your computer.
> > >

> >
> > I have a different user name and password for the Yahoo mail, but found it
> > very difficult to use, also it used to freeze the computer, so I haven't
> > used it for years. All that comes in are updates in my groups, which I get
> > on xtra as well.

>
> Again... this is not about any Yahoo a/c you may have. This concerns
> your Xtra/Yahoo a/c (your Xtra e-mail account) - which, as I've said,
> and David has said, Xtra contracted Yahoo to do their e-mail a year or
> two ago.
>
> ping send.xtra.co.nz
> Pinging smtp1.tnz.mail.vip.aue.yahoo.com [124.108.96.68]
>
> ping pop3.xtra.co.nz
> Pinging pop1.tnz.mail.vip.aue.yahoo.com [124.108.96.66]
>
> If you do an IP address lookup, the servers are in SA, Australia.
>
> And... (presumably) because Xtra outsourced their e-mail services, they
> have to provide additional security to their customers, so they use
> encrypted connections both to and from the Yahoo e-mail servers. That
> means non-standard settings in your e-mail client program (eg. Outlook
> Express) - and this caused a *chitload* of grief for probably tens of
> thousands of Xtra's customers in New Zealand.
>
> My advice back then is the same as today - I advised, and still do, to
> ditch Xtra and get a better, cheaper ISP that provides easier to use
> services (particularly e-mail which is probably the most important
> service) and a better helpdesk should you need it.
>
> The short of it is, Xtra *still suck*


Perhaps this page might make things clearer...

http://nz.docs.yahoo.com/help/

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