In article <ita97g$g6q$>,
, Geopelia
says...
>
> "David Empson" <> wrote in message
> news:1k2xbxz.5ulbltepf8pvN%.. .
> > Geopelia <> wrote:
> >
> >> "Dave Doe" <> wrote in message
> >> news:...
> >> > In article <it8mm2$4pn$>, , Geopelia
> >> > says...
> >> >>
> >> >> I have got an email about upgrading Yahoo mail.
> >> >> Is this the same as Yahoo xtra mail please?
> >> >
> >> > Yes, probably - they are doing an e-mail upgrade - so it's probably
> >> > legitimate. Who is the e-mail from (you didn't say).
> >> >
> >> > Check online if you wish: http://nz.yahoo.com
> >> > or:
> >> > http://www.telecom.co.nz/broadband/email
> >> >
> >>
> >> It's from Yahoo! Mail headed SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT
> >>
> >> It doesn't look like spam.
> >
> > I got it as well. It is not spam.
> >
> >> I don't use Yahoo mail at all. There are over 90 emails, all updates in
> >> my
> >> groups, which come in on the xtra inbox, so I don't need them from Yahoo
> >> too.
> >
> > Xtra outsourced their e-mail service to Yahoo several years ago.
> >
> > Since then, everyone who is an Xtra customer is using Yahoo for their
> > mail, but you may have been unaware of this.
> >
> > The message I received is referring to changes that Yahoo are making in
> > their webmail service, which you might never have accessed. If you did,
> > you would probably have done so by visiting http://xtra.co.nz/ which
> > redirects to http://nz.yahoo.com/ and then signing in an clicking on an
> > E-Mail link, and typing in your Xtra e-mail address and the password for
> > your e-mail account.
> >
> > Yahoo have at least two versions of their webmail user interface - the
> > "Classic" one and a newer one. The message implies that they have either
> > updated the new one or replaced it with an even newer one. They are
> > asking you to log in to your e-mail account and switch over to the new
> > service. If you don't do that then in a month or so, it will be forced
> > upon you the next time you try to access your webmail.
> >
> > If you never access webmail and never will in future, you probably don't
> > have to do anything and can ignore the message.
> >
> > I can't see anything suggesting this will affect use of standard e-mail
> > client software running on your computer.
> >
>
> I have a different user name and password for the Yahoo mail, but found it
> very difficult to use, also it used to freeze the computer, so I haven't
> used it for years. All that comes in are updates in my groups, which I get
> on xtra as well.
Again... this is not about any Yahoo a/c you may have. This concerns
your Xtra/Yahoo a/c (your Xtra e-mail account) - which, as I've said,
and David has said, Xtra contracted Yahoo to do their e-mail a year or
two ago.
ping send.xtra.co.nz
Pinging smtp1.tnz.mail.vip.aue.yahoo.com [124.108.96.68]
ping pop3.xtra.co.nz
Pinging pop1.tnz.mail.vip.aue.yahoo.com [124.108.96.66]
If you do an IP address lookup, the servers are in SA, Australia.
And... (presumably) because Xtra outsourced their e-mail services, they
have to provide additional security to their customers, so they use
encrypted connections both to and from the Yahoo e-mail servers. That
means non-standard settings in your e-mail client program (eg. Outlook
Express) - and this caused a *chitload* of grief for probably tens of
thousands of Xtra's customers in New Zealand.
My advice back then is the same as today - I advised, and still do, to
ditch Xtra and get a better, cheaper ISP that provides easier to use
services (particularly e-mail which is probably the most important
service) and a better helpdesk should you need it.
The short of it is, Xtra *still suck*
--
Duncan.