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      05-24-2011
There was a time when I liked K-Meleon, but it's gotten nearly
unusable. Repeated script errors all the time. Sure, I can disable
java script to stop these errors but half these sites dont work
without it. I looked for support and found that there is little
support for this browser, as well as nothing being done to remedy the
problem. I'm running ver. 1.5.4, which is the latest except for a
beta version (I dont use beta versions of any software). I have come
to the conclusion the best solution is to just trash K-Meleon. I had
lots of potential, but seemed to lack any interaction with it's users.
I gave it a good shot, but it's now history.

 
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      05-24-2011
On Tue, 24 May 2011 05:27:46 -0500, in message <>
a.k.a. a.k.a. a.k.a. wrote:

> There was a time when I liked K-Meleon, but it's gotten nearly
> unusable. Repeated script errors all the time.


No such script errors here.

BTW you didn't answer any questions about those script errors.


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      05-24-2011
On Tue, 24 May 2011 23:16:00 +1200, Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid>
wrote:

>On Tue, 24 May 2011 05:27:46 -0500, in message <>
> a.k.a. a.k.a. a.k.a. wrote:
>
>> There was a time when I liked K-Meleon, but it's gotten nearly
>> unusable. Repeated script errors all the time.

>
>No such script errors here.
>
>BTW you didn't answer any questions about those script errors.


Unless I'm not seeing all the posts on here, you're the first response
to this post, so what are the questions? I get these script errors
nearly eveeytime I use the program. I will not that sites from the
media are the worst, such as local tv stations, CBS, FOX, CNN, etc
news station websites.

I find it hard to believe you dont get those script errors unless you
have java script disabled, or dont go to these type of websites. I'm
assuming you're using ver 1.54.

BTW: I have seen numerous commeents online about these errors, by
googling, but no solutions. I did read that the "engine" in this
version is obsolete.

I will also not that I tried this on 2 computers, using 3 OSs. Win98,
Win2000, and XP. I'm on dialup, not that this matters.

 
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      05-28-2011
On 05/24/2011 04:02 PM, wrote:
> On Tue, 24 May 2011 23:16:00 +1200, Ralph Fox<-rf-nz-@-.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 24 May 2011 05:27:46 -0500, in message< >
>> a.k.a. a.k.a. a.k.a. wrote:
>>
>>> There was a time when I liked K-Meleon, but it's gotten nearly
>>> unusable. Repeated script errors all the time.

>>
>> No such script errors here.
>>
>> BTW you didn't answer any questions about those script errors.


I saw no such questions either...

>
> Unless I'm not seeing all the posts on here, you're the first response
> to this post, so what are the questions? I get these script errors
> nearly eveeytime I use the program. I will not that sites from the
> media are the worst, such as local tv stations, CBS, FOX, CNN, etc
> news station websites.
>
> I find it hard to believe you dont get those script errors unless you
> have java script disabled, or dont go to these type of websites. I'm
> assuming you're using ver 1.54.


Using FF 4.0, I get tons of script errors so don't feel like the lone
ranger - there must be a reason for this behavior but I really don't
care about it much since performance degradation hasn't been noticable.
Looks like bad coding on the part of websites, not FF problem. wiki
is a sure source, as is MarketWatch.....


>
> BTW: I have seen numerous commeents online about these errors, by
> googling, but no solutions. I did read that the "engine" in this
> version is obsolete.
>

Don't think that is the problem - it isn't the browser beyond using
strict rendering, which means the errors have to be lived with.

> I will also not that I tried this on 2 computers, using 3 OSs. Win98,
> Win2000, and XP. I'm on dialup, not that this matters.
>

What - didn't try it in win 3.1?



 
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      05-29-2011
On Sat, 28 May 2011 15:17:24 -0700, in message <irrs8r$78q$>
jeff g. wrote:

> On 05/24/2011 04:02 PM, wrote:
> > On Tue, 24 May 2011 23:16:00 +1200, Ralph Fox<-rf-nz-@-.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 24 May 2011 05:27:46 -0500, in message< >
> >> a.k.a. a.k.a. a.k.a. wrote:
> >>
> >>> There was a time when I liked K-Meleon, but it's gotten nearly
> >>> unusable. Repeated script errors all the time.
> >>
> >> No such script errors here.
> >>
> >> BTW you didn't answer any questions about those script errors.

>
> I saw no such questions either...



Go back to this thread in February.
Post #1: http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=130662607400
Post #2: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.f...0dc481a930e2fb

Look at his NNTP-Posting-Host header - the "Dm50EPYY7G23nNJE7/glRQ"
is AIOE's hash of his IP address. Check the history of each of the
nyms, and you will see the IP hash never changes -- it is a static
IP address. The most which might reasonably claim
is that he is sharing an Internet connection with ,
, , and others.


> > I'm on dialup, not that this matters.


It is unusual for someone on dial-up to have a static IP address.
And a dial-up user won't be sharing an Internet connection to any
large degree.


FYI he has acquired a bit of a reputation in other newsgroups,
where he is recognized by his static IP address.
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...44f0ddb6d55309
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.h...61b6a5d0c1fb03
http://groups.google.com/group/misc....e2aeeb48bea2bc
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.r...dbb145cb682341


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      05-29-2011
On 05/28/2011 05:43 PM, Ralph Fox wrote:
> On Sat, 28 May 2011 15:17:24 -0700, in message<irrs8r$78q$>
> jeff g. wrote:
>
>> On 05/24/2011 04:02 PM, wrote:
>>> On Tue, 24 May 2011 23:16:00 +1200, Ralph Fox<-rf-nz-@-.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 24 May 2011 05:27:46 -0500, in message< >
>>>> a.k.a. a.k.a. a.k.a. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There was a time when I liked K-Meleon, but it's gotten nearly
>>>>> unusable. Repeated script errors all the time.
>>>>
>>>> No such script errors here.
>>>>
>>>> BTW you didn't answer any questions about those script errors.

>>
>> I saw no such questions either...

>
>
> Go back to this thread in February.
> Post #1: http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=130662607400
> Post #2: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.f...0dc481a930e2fb
>


February?
You didn't say we weren't dealing with current history - nor did you
mention you were on troll alert.
Guess this group is that slow - I just subbed to see what its worth...
 
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      05-30-2011
On Sat, 28 May 2011 15:17:24 -0700, "jeff g." <>
wrote:

>On 05/24/2011 04:02 PM, wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 May 2011 23:16:00 +1200, Ralph Fox<-rf-nz-@-.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 24 May 2011 05:27:46 -0500, in message< >
>>> a.k.a. a.k.a. a.k.a. wrote:
>>>
>>>> There was a time when I liked K-Meleon, but it's gotten nearly
>>>> unusable. Repeated script errors all the time.
>>>
>>> No such script errors here.
>>>
>>> BTW you didn't answer any questions about those script errors.

>
>I saw no such questions either...


You know, I totally forgot I even posted this before. At least on
this group, because I think I did post it on one of the Windows
groups. Hell, I got beginners alzheimers. I can go out to my car 3
times to get a pack of smokes and come back with something else each
time.
>
>>
>> Unless I'm not seeing all the posts on here, you're the first response
>> to this post, so what are the questions? I get these script errors
>> nearly eveeytime I use the program. I will not that sites from the
>> media are the worst, such as local tv stations, CBS, FOX, CNN, etc
>> news station websites.
>>
>> I find it hard to believe you dont get those script errors unless you
>> have java script disabled, or dont go to these type of websites. I'm
>> assuming you're using ver 1.54.

>
>Using FF 4.0, I get tons of script errors so don't feel like the lone
>ranger - there must be a reason for this behavior but I really don't
>care about it much since performance degradation hasn't been noticable.
> Looks like bad coding on the part of websites, not FF problem. wiki
>is a sure source, as is MarketWatch.....
>


That's a good reason to avoid FF4. I dont have that problem in FF3.
But FF3 has this crazy issue where it is constantly going into offline
mode. I wish I could entirely disable offline mode. I have never
used it.
>
>>
>> BTW: I have seen numerous commeents online about these errors, by
>> googling, but no solutions. I did read that the "engine" in this
>> version is obsolete.
>>

>Don't think that is the problem - it isn't the browser beyond using
>strict rendering, which means the errors have to be lived with.


I do agree that some if not most is crappy web design. What gets me
is that the news sites are the worst. I thought their purpose was to
bring us the news, not make their sites so overloaded with crap they
dont work properly. At the same time K-Meleon must have soem issues
because FF3 dont do this.

>
>> I will also not that I tried this on 2 computers, using 3 OSs. Win98,
>> Win2000, and XP. I'm on dialup, not that this matters.
>>

>What - didn't try it in win 3.1?
>


Actually I am running Win98se with an enhancement, most of the time.
I could care less to run the latest MS bloatware OSs. This
enhancement allows 98 to run FF3 and other software made for XP. I
have Win2000 as a dual boot, mostly only used for USB support, because
that is the one thing about 98 that it lacks.

I have XP on my laptop, only because it's needed for the WIFI card. I
personally find XP annoying if not repulsive.

Anyhow, K-meleon gets these errors on any of these 3 OSs.


 
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      05-31-2011
On Sat, 28 May 2011 18:12:48 -0700, "jeff g." <>
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>On 05/28/2011 05:43 PM, Ralph Fox wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 May 2011 15:17:24 -0700, in message<irrs8r$78q$>
>> jeff g. wrote:
>>
>>> On 05/24/2011 04:02 PM, wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 24 May 2011 23:16:00 +1200, Ralph Fox<-rf-nz-@-.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 24 May 2011 05:27:46 -0500, in message< >
>>>>> a.k.a. a.k.a. a.k.a. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There was a time when I liked K-Meleon, but it's gotten nearly
>>>>>> unusable. Repeated script errors all the time.
>>>>>
>>>>> No such script errors here.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW you didn't answer any questions about those script errors.
>>>
>>> I saw no such questions either...

>>
>>
>> Go back to this thread in February.
>> Post #1: http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=130662607400
>> Post #2: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.f...0dc481a930e2fb
>>

>
>February?
>You didn't say we weren't dealing with current history - nor did you
>mention you were on troll alert.
>Guess this group is that slow - I just subbed to see what its worth...


What we have here is a Cyber Stalker. These are the creeps we often
hear about of the news. The type that stalk children and such.
Instead of spending a couple minutes answering the question I asked,
he probably spend hours tracking IP addresses and searching archives.
I often ask why creeps like this bother. Apparently they have no life
to waste all their time in this way.

Personally I dont give a rats ass what this creep says about me. I'm
perfectly capable of dealing with scum like this, and if he wants to
persue this and show up on my doorstep, I would not hesitate to use
any weapon of my choice for trespassing. However, if there was a
child involved, I would already have the federal officials involved.

Anyone with the knowledge and time on their hands can spend their life
tracking anyone online if they want. Personally I have a life and
could care less what others do online. I ask advice from strangers,
and sometimes they are right, other times wrong, but it's only advice
and I never take things literally, but will often try some of these
fixes particularly on a computer, if more tan one person agrees.
Those who are assholes and trolls on usenet or any other online forum,
get filtered and never heard from again. Usenet and Facebook seems to
harbor idiots, and many need to be blocked.

However this "Ralph Fox" creep and a few others like him come to these
groups solely to post their stalking results on these groups. Which
in the long run is just asking for prosecution, particularly if
children are involved. Trolling and being an asshole online does
nothing other than ruin the online experiences for others. But cyber
stalking is a federal offence and can result in the stalker getting
prison time. I can guarantee that I'll be one of the first people to
contact the authorities if I witness stalking or any other abuse of
children online.

The question that I posted about K-Meleon was fully on topic for this
group. When I originally posted the question in February, I got no
response, other than from this creep, who obviously did not know the
answer at that time, and only wanted to ask me questions, which I had
already clearly stated the problem and there was no need to repeat
myself. This was the only reaponse I got, and is why I had totally
forgotten I had even posted the question back then. Actually I do now
recall this Ralph Fox saying he never got such errors. I personally
do not believe this, unless he's using another version or something.
I more believe he does not even use K-Meleon and had no intention of
offering help in the first place. His only intent was to cyber stalk
on this group, and likely does it on other groups. Because if he was
really using K-Meleon, he WOULD be getting script errors. As long as
I have Java Script enabled, I probably average one script error in one
out of every five websites I open.

This newsgroup has become pretty much useless as far as support for
ANY and ALL Mozilla products. And as I stated in my recent post,
there simply is no support for K-Meleon. Firefox now has it's own
newsgroup, but K-Meleon only has their own "help blog" which I find
useless. Most of the stuff on there is older than dirt. I once
thought that K-Melon was the best browser available. Firefox used to
be the best, but they have become another bloated resource hog. And
worse they never fix known bugs in upgrade versions. K-Meleon also
had features not found in any other browser, which I liked. I realize
that much of this problem is due to faulty web pages, but at the same
time, I am not willing to cope with this any longer. If it was simply
a matter of an error message, I might cope with it, but these errors
normally cause K-M to freeze up for as much as 3 minutes, before
finally popping up the script error message, which I have to click on
to end the problem. In the meantime, K-M has done nothing to fix the
problem. I finally just decided to dump the browser. No browser is
perfect, and honestly none of them are what I would consider "GOOD".
Of the big 3, Firefox, IE and Opera, I will only use FF. In my
opinion, IE and Opera are garbage. I've tried several of the lesser
known browsers, and most were crap. However K-M was the one that
stood out, and as I said before, I once thought it was the best of the
best. But it failed with these newer websites, and it appears to be a
dying breed. In the end, I'll just stick with Firefox unless some
other (much needed) new browser is created.

As for Ralph Fox, dont even bother to respond to me again. Normally
I'd filter you out of my newsreader, but in your case, I'll be
watching you. You want to cyber stalk people, so if I find you
stalking children, be assured you will be dealing with the law.

By the way, Ralph Fox, you're not very good at your stalking, because
much of what traced was incorrect. Do yourself a favor. Sell your
computer and take up another hobby such as stamp collecting or
masturbation. You might be better at one of them.

 
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