Velocity Reviews - Computer Hardware Reviews

Velocity Reviews > Newsgroups > Computing > NZ Computing > Former network PC, Win 7, won't let me remove the alt-ctrl-del log in requirement

Reply
Thread Tools

Former network PC, Win 7, won't let me remove the alt-ctrl-del log in requirement

 
 
Boppy
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      05-20-2011
So this restaurant has been given a PC with Win 7. It used to be in a
network environment and the administrator set up the system so that
the one and only user did not have administative access. Admin access
would only be available to that admin guy over the network.

So now that admin dude has left the country and the former user of the
profile can't tell me anything helpful.

What I need to achieve is eliminate the requirement for users to type
alt-ctrl-delete whenever the pc is switched on. Unchecking this option
in User Accounts/Advanced/Secure Log on does not work - the check mark
just keeps coming back.

The PC is not connected to the internet so there is no security issue
with fake logging on.

I cannot change this user to an administrator - current status is
"other - debugger users". Nor can I create a new user who IS an
administrator.

So in a nutshell, how can I get admin access to this PC?

Thanks in advance for any advice,
Jo

 
Reply With Quote
 
 
 
 
none
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      05-20-2011
On 20/05/11 14:22, Boppy wrote:
> So this restaurant has been given a PC with Win 7. It used to be in a
> network environment and the administrator set up the system so that
> the one and only user did not have administative access. Admin access
> would only be available to that admin guy over the network.
>
> So now that admin dude has left the country and the former user of the
> profile can't tell me anything helpful.
>
> What I need to achieve is eliminate the requirement for users to type
> alt-ctrl-delete whenever the pc is switched on. Unchecking this option
> in User Accounts/Advanced/Secure Log on does not work - the check mark
> just keeps coming back.
>
> The PC is not connected to the internet so there is no security issue
> with fake logging on.
>
> I cannot change this user to an administrator - current status is
> "other - debugger users". Nor can I create a new user who IS an
> administrator.
>
> So in a nutshell, how can I get admin access to this PC?
>
> Thanks in advance for any advice,
> Jo
>


http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
 
Reply With Quote
 
 
 
 
none
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      05-20-2011
On 20/05/11 16:18, none wrote:
> On 20/05/11 14:22, Boppy wrote:
>> So this restaurant has been given a PC with Win 7. It used to be in a
>> network environment and the administrator set up the system so that
>> the one and only user did not have administative access. Admin access
>> would only be available to that admin guy over the network.
>>
>> So now that admin dude has left the country and the former user of the
>> profile can't tell me anything helpful.
>>
>> What I need to achieve is eliminate the requirement for users to type
>> alt-ctrl-delete whenever the pc is switched on. Unchecking this option
>> in User Accounts/Advanced/Secure Log on does not work - the check mark
>> just keeps coming back.
>>
>> The PC is not connected to the internet so there is no security issue
>> with fake logging on.
>>
>> I cannot change this user to an administrator - current status is
>> "other - debugger users". Nor can I create a new user who IS an
>> administrator.
>>
>> So in a nutshell, how can I get admin access to this PC?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any advice,
>> Jo
>>

>
> http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/


oops not available from there.
try http://pogostick.net/~pnh/ntpasswd/
 
Reply With Quote
 
Boots
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      05-20-2011
On Thu, 19 May 2011 19:22:23 -0700, Boppy wrote:

> So in a nutshell, how can I get admin access to this PC?


Reformat. Reinstall Microsoft.


--
"Filtering the Internet is like trying to boil the ocean"
 
Reply With Quote
 
Dave Doe
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      05-20-2011
In article <b1e9b1a0-adc2-4f3c-8d87-dae0f00af615
@r27g2000prr.googlegroups.com>, http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/(E-Mail Removed), Boppy says...
>
> So this restaurant has been given a PC with Win 7. It used to be in a
> network environment and the administrator set up the system so that
> the one and only user did not have administative access. Admin access
> would only be available to that admin guy over the network.
>
> So now that admin dude has left the country and the former user of the
> profile can't tell me anything helpful.
>
> What I need to achieve is eliminate the requirement for users to type
> alt-ctrl-delete whenever the pc is switched on. Unchecking this option
> in User Accounts/Advanced/Secure Log on does not work - the check mark
> just keeps coming back.
>
> The PC is not connected to the internet so there is no security issue
> with fake logging on.
>
> I cannot change this user to an administrator - current status is
> "other - debugger users". Nor can I create a new user who IS an
> administrator.
>
> So in a nutshell, how can I get admin access to this PC?
>
> Thanks in advance for any advice,
> Jo


Stab in the dark - but possibly caused by Group Policy from the domain
controller? Is it still 'joined' to the domain? If so, unjoin it, and
put it back in 'WORKGROUP' mode.

--
Duncan.
 
Reply With Quote
 
Dave Doe
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      05-20-2011
In article <(E-Mail Removed)-september.org>,
(E-Mail Removed), Dave Doe says...
>
> In article <b1e9b1a0-adc2-4f3c-8d87-dae0f00af615
> @r27g2000prr.googlegroups.com>, (E-Mail Removed), Boppy says...
> >
> > So this restaurant has been given a PC with Win 7. It used to be in a
> > network environment and the administrator set up the system so that
> > the one and only user did not have administative access. Admin access
> > would only be available to that admin guy over the network.
> >
> > So now that admin dude has left the country and the former user of the
> > profile can't tell me anything helpful.
> >
> > What I need to achieve is eliminate the requirement for users to type
> > alt-ctrl-delete whenever the pc is switched on. Unchecking this option
> > in User Accounts/Advanced/Secure Log on does not work - the check mark
> > just keeps coming back.
> >
> > The PC is not connected to the internet so there is no security issue
> > with fake logging on.
> >
> > I cannot change this user to an administrator - current status is
> > "other - debugger users". Nor can I create a new user who IS an
> > administrator.
> >
> > So in a nutshell, how can I get admin access to this PC?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any advice,
> > Jo

>
> Stab in the dark - but possibly caused by Group Policy from the domain
> controller? Is it still 'joined' to the domain? If so, unjoin it, and
> put it back in 'WORKGROUP' mode.


Here's some more info that might help - note the notes near the bottom
of the page.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308226

--
Duncan.
 
Reply With Quote
 
Ray Greene
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      05-20-2011
On Fri, 20 May 2011 17:00:51 +1200, none <""dave\"@(none)"> wrote:

>On 20/05/11 16:18, none wrote:
>> On 20/05/11 14:22, Boppy wrote:
>>> So this restaurant has been given a PC with Win 7. It used to be in a
>>> network environment and the administrator set up the system so that
>>> the one and only user did not have administative access. Admin access
>>> would only be available to that admin guy over the network.
>>>
>>> So now that admin dude has left the country and the former user of the
>>> profile can't tell me anything helpful.
>>>
>>> What I need to achieve is eliminate the requirement for users to type
>>> alt-ctrl-delete whenever the pc is switched on. Unchecking this option
>>> in User Accounts/Advanced/Secure Log on does not work - the check mark
>>> just keeps coming back.
>>>
>>> The PC is not connected to the internet so there is no security issue
>>> with fake logging on.
>>>
>>> I cannot change this user to an administrator - current status is
>>> "other - debugger users". Nor can I create a new user who IS an
>>> administrator.
>>>
>>> So in a nutshell, how can I get admin access to this PC?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for any advice,
>>> Jo
>>>

>>
>> http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/

>
>oops not available from there.
>try http://pogostick.net/~pnh/ntpasswd/


I second this suggestion, it has helped me out a few times.

Download it and burn it to a CD and boot the PC from it. It looks a
bit technical but just take your time and follow the instructions and
you'll be right. I've always just accepted all the default settings
and never had a problem with it.

--
Ray Greene
 
Reply With Quote
 
Boppy
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      05-20-2011
On May 21, 2:16*am, Dave Doe <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> In article <(E-Mail Removed)-september.org>,
> (E-Mail Removed), Dave Doe says...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <b1e9b1a0-adc2-4f3c-8d87-dae0f00af615
> > @r27g2000prr.googlegroups.com>, (E-Mail Removed), Boppy says...

>
> > > So this restaurant has been given a PC with Win 7. It used to be in a
> > > network environment and the administrator set up the system so that
> > > the one and only user did not have administative access. Admin access
> > > would only be available to that admin guy over the network.

>
> > > So now that admin dude has left the country and the former user of the
> > > profile can't tell me anything helpful.

>
> > > What I need to achieve is eliminate the requirement for users to type
> > > alt-ctrl-delete whenever the pc is switched on. Unchecking this option
> > > in User Accounts/Advanced/Secure Log on does not work - the check mark
> > > just keeps coming back.

>
> > > The PC is not connected to the internet so there is no security issue
> > > with fake logging on.

>
> > > I cannot change this user to an administrator - current status is
> > > "other - debugger users". Nor can I create a new user who IS an
> > > administrator.

>
> > > So in a nutshell, how can I get admin access to this PC?

>
> > > Thanks in advance for any advice,
> > > Jo

>
> > Stab in the dark - but possibly caused by Group Policy from the domain
> > controller? *Is it still 'joined' to the domain? *If so, unjoin it,and
> > put it back in 'WORKGROUP' mode.

>
> Here's some more info that might help - note the notes near the bottom
> of the page.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308226
>
> --
> Duncan.


Thanks but as I can't get admin access I can't make that change.
 
Reply With Quote
 
Dave Doe
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      05-21-2011
In article <d7d98d7d-c14b-4be3-8719-d69763958426
@z13g2000prk.googlegroups.com>, (E-Mail Removed), Boppy says...
>
> On May 21, 2:16*am, Dave Doe <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > In article <(E-Mail Removed)-september.org>,
> > (E-Mail Removed), Dave Doe says...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > In article <b1e9b1a0-adc2-4f3c-8d87-dae0f00af615
> > > @r27g2000prr.googlegroups.com>, (E-Mail Removed), Boppy says...

> >
> > > > So this restaurant has been given a PC with Win 7. It used to be in a
> > > > network environment and the administrator set up the system so that
> > > > the one and only user did not have administative access. Admin access
> > > > would only be available to that admin guy over the network.

> >
> > > > So now that admin dude has left the country and the former user of the
> > > > profile can't tell me anything helpful.

> >
> > > > What I need to achieve is eliminate the requirement for users to type
> > > > alt-ctrl-delete whenever the pc is switched on. Unchecking this option
> > > > in User Accounts/Advanced/Secure Log on does not work - the check mark
> > > > just keeps coming back.

> >
> > > > The PC is not connected to the internet so there is no security issue
> > > > with fake logging on.

> >
> > > > I cannot change this user to an administrator - current status is
> > > > "other - debugger users". Nor can I create a new user who IS an
> > > > administrator.

> >
> > > > So in a nutshell, how can I get admin access to this PC?

> >
> > > > Thanks in advance for any advice,
> > > > Jo

> >
> > > Stab in the dark - but possibly caused by Group Policy from the domain
> > > controller? *Is it still 'joined' to the domain? *If so, unjoin it, and
> > > put it back in 'WORKGROUP' mode.

> >
> > Here's some more info that might help - note the notes near the bottom
> > of the page.
> >
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308226
> >
> > --
> > Duncan.

>
> Thanks but as I can't get admin access I can't make that change.


Bugger. You *need* that password. Also... I did not repeat what others
have suggested, re UBCD (which I like to run from USB - but for
simplicity, the CD is easy to make).

On Ultimate Boot CD though, perhaps you might like to try first, Hiren's
Boot CD (similar to UBCD, but much more Windows orientated). It has
several password changers IIRC. So that may get you your admin access.

http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd

Otherwise, I'd just re-install the OS - Windows 7 is nice n' easy.

--
Duncan.
 
Reply With Quote
 
~misfit~
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      05-25-2011
Somewhere on teh intarwebs Dave Doe wrote:
[snip]
> On Ultimate Boot CD though, perhaps you might like to try first,
> Hiren's Boot CD (similar to UBCD, but much more Windows orientated).
> It has several password changers IIRC. So that may get you your
> admin access.


Wee tangential trip here but do you know if either of those has hdparm on
it? Is it difficult to make a bootable USB? Last time I tried I gave up
after a couple hours Googling around in circles. It'd be handy to carry on
my keychain, it's amazing how often I get asked to do 'support' when I'm not
expecting it. :-/

Cheers,
--
Shaun.

"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a
monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also
into you." Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche


 
Reply With Quote
 
 
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Applet to run on Win 98, Win ME, Win XP, Win Vista & Win 7 ?? Krist Java 6 05-06-2010 11:53 PM
OT: Let me in! Let me in! quasi/various/bob [7.13.86.42] MCSE 7 05-30-2006 10:00 PM
Have a nice day! ...//more of your parables. Pray let us know whoyou are, let us Ravens U. Locksmith Python 1 05-26-2004 11:00 AM
winxp IE will not let you exit, and my comptuer / other folders will not let you open them. Daniel NZ Computing 2 05-11-2004 02:02 AM
Let or not let the text float Luigi Donatello Asero HTML 6 01-15-2004 04:08 PM



Advertisments