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Here we go again, another change to daylight-saving rules in some part of
the world throwing users of proprietary OSes into a panic
<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/29/chilean_clocks/>.

The Olson database hasn’t officially been updated yet
<http://www.twinsun.com/tz/tz-link.htm>, but what’s the bet they’ll be well
in advance of Microsoft and others having to rush out patches?

Yes Lawrence, it is really difficult to change a Windows timezone:

- Download tzedit.exe (or get it off your Windows install disks)
- Run it and change the offending time zone. Even a Linux head could
do this.

Or you could follow the several methods documented in
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/914387

Now where did you say the Linux patches are??

On 30/03/11 21:58, Ron McNulty wrote:
> Yes Lawrence, it is really difficult to change a Windows timezone:
>
> - Download tzedit.exe (or get it off your Windows install disks)
> - Run it and change the offending time zone. Even a Linux head could
> do this.
>
> Or you could follow the several methods documented in
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/914387
>
> Now where did you say the Linux patches are??
>
Mostly on the repository sites. Mostly they have the patches for the OS
and for Java too, but I doubt that they'd have them yet. I'd say that it
wasn't a problem for either OS, unless of course you live in Chile or
deal with people or firms in Chile.

In both OSes there are manual ways of editting timezones as you point
out. But some of our older OSes never get patched for timezone changes
and no planes have yet fallen from the skies. That article that Lawrence
references is obviously a joke.

Cheers,

Cliff

--

The ends justifies the means - Niccolò di Bernardo dei Machiavelli.

The end excuses any evil - Sophocles

In message <8d6ae899-52a9-470a-9f0c-
>, Ron McNulty wrote:

> Now where did you say the Linux patches are??

<http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.time.tz/3702>

In message
<8d6ae899-52a9-470a-9f0c->, Ron
McNulty wrote:

> Yes Lawrence, it is really difficult to change a Windows timezone:
>
> - Download tzedit.exe (or get it off your Windows install disks)
> - Run it and change the offending time zone. Even a Linux head could
> do this.
>
> Or you could follow the several methods documented in
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/914387

Could you roll that out en masse via a GPO, by any chance?

Or doesn’t Microsoft’s legendary system integration extend that far?

On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 16:54:26 +1300, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> Could you roll that out en masse via a GPO, by any chance?
>
> Or doesn’t Microsoft’s legendary system integration extend that far?

AD GPO System integration only works for Microsoft software (or other
software) that uses APIs designed to allow the software's local interface
to be overrode by control from Microsoft AD or Samba.

The key is "designed to allow" control. GPO is not a guaranteed absolute
means to manage applications of MS Windows, and not all instances of MS
Windows crippleware will even allow connection to an AD Domain - it all
depends on the degree that Microsoft has crippled it.


--
"Filtering the Internet is like trying to boil the ocean"

On , , Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:16:06 +1200, Re: Why OS Patching For Timezone Changes
Is A Bad Idea, Bret <> wrote:

>On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 06:24:09 +0000 (UTC), Boots wrote:
>
>> AD GPO System integration only works for Microsoft software (or other
>> software) that uses APIs designed to allow the software's local interface
>> to be overrode by control from Microsoft AD or Samba.
>
>Are you sure that is correct english?

Our little spelling, sentence construction and grammar critic has been hoist by
his own petard.
(I'm waiting for the pedants to roar.)
--
"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor
to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."
Anatole France.

On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:16:06 +1200, Bret wrote:

> On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 06:24:09 +0000 (UTC), Boots wrote:
>
>> AD GPO System integration only works for Microsoft software (or other
>> software) that uses APIs designed to allow the software's local
>> interface to be overrode by control from Microsoft AD or Samba.
>
> Are you sure that is correct english?

It's either "overrode" or "overridden".

Now that I think about it, it should be "overridden" - the passive past
participle.


--
"Filtering the Internet is like trying to boil the ocean"

In message <in0so1$otb$>, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> In message <8d6ae899-52a9-470a-9f0c-
> >, Ron McNulty wrote:
>
>> Now where did you say the Linux patches are??
>
> <http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.time.tz/3702>

Or, if you prefer downloading everything again to applying a patch:
<ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/>.

So where are those Apple and Microsoft patches, then?

On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 20:49:19 +1300, in message <imuna0$gc9$>
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> Here we go again, another change to daylight-saving rules in some part of
> the world throwing users of proprietary OSes into a panic
> <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/29/chilean_clocks/>.
>
> The Olson database hasn’t officially been updated yet
> <http://www.twinsun.com/tz/tz-link.htm>, but what’s the bet they’ll be well
> in advance of Microsoft and others having to rush out patches?


Easy as, on Windows...


1) Download the Windows tzedit utility from Microsoft.

****<http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/8/a/58a208b7-7dc7-4bc7-8357-28e29cdac52f/tzedit.exe>


2) Run tzedit, select time zone "(UTC-04:00) Santiago", and click "Edit"

<http://i52.tinypic.com/66el8g.png>


3) Make sure the last day for daylight saving is set to the
first Saturday of May.

<http://i54.tinypic.com/20093dy.png>


No problem!!!


--
Kind regards
Ralph