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It is due to overexposure. The sensors shift their output. You can
f--- up ANY blue sky shot by doing that. The trick is to control the
exposure of the sky while avoiding darkening down the landscape too
much. In some instances (close proximity to the sun in the sky) it is
impossible. Before, a Cokin graduated filter was a good way of doing
this, but even specialized filters have fallen out of favour since
software took their places. Looks like the only way this will be
fixed is when HDR becomes a normal, in-camera process and looks
realistic, which will be a long time coming.

On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:17:55 -0700 (PDT), Rich <>
wrote:
> It is due to overexposure. The sensors shift their output. You can
> f--- up ANY blue sky shot by doing that. The trick is to control
the
> exposure of the sky while avoiding darkening down the landscape too
> much. In some instances (close proximity to the sun in the sky) it
is
> impossible. Before, a Cokin graduated filter was a good way of
doing
> this, but even specialized filters have fallen out of favour since
> software took their places. Looks like the only way this will be
> fixed is when HDR becomes a normal, in-camera process and looks
> realistic, which will be a long time coming.

And exactly what is preventing you from using a Cokin filter, or HDR?
Not that anybody expects a rational answer.

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On Mar 15, 8:34*pm, Peter N <f...@fakeemail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:17:55 -0700 (PDT), Rich <rander3...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > It is due to overexposure. *The sensors shift their output. *You can
> > f--- up ANY blue sky shot by doing that. * The trick is to control
> the
> > exposure of the sky while avoiding darkening down the landscape too
> > much. *In some instances (close proximity to the sun in the sky) it
> is
> > impossible. *Before, a Cokin graduated filter was a good way of
> doing
> > this, but even specialized filters have fallen out of favour since
> > software took their places. *Looks like the only way this will be
> > fixed is when HDR becomes a normal, in-camera process and looks
> > realistic, which will be a long time coming.
>
> And exactly what is preventing you from using a Cokin filter, or HDR?
> Not that anybody expects a rational answer.

Nothing, but I still have to LOOK at images posted by others with the
cyan sky disease.

On Mar 15, 10:30*pm, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
wrote:
> On 2011-03-15 17:34:58 -0700, Peter N <f...@fakeemail.com> said:
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:17:55 -0700 (PDT), Rich <rander3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> It is due to overexposure. *The sensors shift their output. *You can
> >> f--- up ANY blue sky shot by doing that. * The trick is to control
> > the
> >> exposure of the sky while avoiding darkening down the landscape too
> >> much. *In some instances (close proximity to the sun in the sky) it
> > is
> >> impossible. *Before, a Cokin graduated filter was a good way of
> > doing
> >> this, but even specialized filters have fallen out of favour since
> >> software took their places. *Looks like the only way this will be
> >> fixed is when HDR becomes a normal, in-camera process and looks
> >> realistic, which will be a long time coming.
>
> > And exactly what is preventing you from using a Cokin filter, or HDR?
> > Not that anybody expects a rational answer.
>
> OK! Let's try these, ND Grad, CP, or HDR?
> <http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/DNC_7858E1w2.jpg>
> <http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/DNC_7868E1w2.jpg>
>
> BTW; this was this morning down on the coast, off Hwy 1, near Cambria.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Savageduck

They look fine, no cyan issues at all.

On 3/16/2011 3:12 AM, Eric Stevens wrote:

>> OK! Let's try these, ND Grad, CP, or HDR?
>> < http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/DNC_7858E1w2.jpg>
>> < http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/DNC_7868E1w2.jpg>
>>
>> BTW; this was this morning down on the coast, off Hwy 1, near Cambria.
>
> The second one is oversaturated according to my screen.
>
> Regards,
>
> Eric Stevens

Not oversaturated ... just the level adjusted to keep the white foam
well in range, with "highlight/shadow" not applied in Photoshop.

Doug McDonald

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:12:42 +1300, Eric Stevens
<> wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 19:30:11 -0700, Savageduck
> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:


> >On 2011-03-15 17:34:58 -0700, Peter N <> said:
> >
> >> On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:17:55 -0700 (PDT), Rich
<> wrote:
> >>> It is due to overexposure. The sensors shift their output.
You can
> >>> f--- up ANY blue sky shot by doing that. The trick is to
control
> >> the
> >>> exposure of the sky while avoiding darkening down the landscape
too
> >>> much. In some instances (close proximity to the sun in the
sky) it
> >> is
> >>> impossible. Before, a Cokin graduated filter was a good way of
> >> doing
> >>> this, but even specialized filters have fallen out of favour
since
> >>> software took their places. Looks like the only way this will
be
> >>> fixed is when HDR becomes a normal, in-camera process and looks
> >>> realistic, which will be a long time coming.
> >>
> >> And exactly what is preventing you from using a Cokin filter, or
HDR?
> >> Not that anybody expects a rational answer.
> >
> >OK! Let's try these, ND Grad, CP, or HDR?
> >< http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/DNC_7858E1w2.jpg >
> >< http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/DNC_7868E1w2.jpg >
> >
> >BTW; this was this morning down on the coast, off Hwy 1, near
Cambria.


> The second one is oversaturated according to my screen.


> Regards,


> Eric Stevens

Only a matter of taste. The image only needs to satisfy the maker.

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On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 05:27:32 -0700 (PDT), Rich <>
wrote:
> On Mar 15, 8:34pm, Peter N <f...@fakeemail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:17:55 -0700 (PDT), Rich
<rander3...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It is due to overexposure. The sensors shift their output.
You ca=
> n
> > > f--- up ANY blue sky shot by doing that.  The trick is to
control
> > the
> > > exposure of the sky while avoiding darkening down the landscape
too
> > > much. In some instances (close proximity to the sun in the
sky) it
> > is
> > > impossible. Before, a Cokin graduated filter was a good way of
> > doing
> > > this, but even specialized filters have fallen out of favour
since
> > > software took their places. Looks like the only way this will
be
> > > fixed is when HDR becomes a normal, in-camera process and looks
> > > realistic, which will be a long time coming.
> >
> > And exactly what is preventing you from using a Cokin filter, or
HDR?
> > Not that anybody expects a rational answer.


> Nothing, but I still have to LOOK at images posted by others with
the
> cyan sky disease.

Is anyone forcing you

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Rich wrote:
>
> It is due to overexposure. The sensors shift their output. You can
> f--- up ANY blue sky shot by doing that. The trick is to control the
> exposure of the sky while avoiding darkening down the landscape too
> much. In some instances (close proximity to the sun in the sky) it is
> impossible. Before, a Cokin graduated filter was a good way of doing
> this, but even specialized filters have fallen out of favour since
> software took their places. Looks like the only way this will be
> fixed is when HDR becomes a normal, in-camera process and looks
> realistic, which will be a long time coming.


Kodak's upcoming "EasyShare Max Z990" (12 megapixels, 30x optical
zoom) will have a built-in HDR mode.

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John Turco <>

Marie's Musings <http://fairiesandtails.blogspot.com>

John Turco <> wrote:
> Rich wrote:

>> It is due to overexposure. The sensors shift their output. You can
>> f--- up ANY blue sky shot by doing that. The trick is to control the
>> exposure of the sky while avoiding darkening down the landscape too
>> much. In some instances (close proximity to the sun in the sky) it is
>> impossible. Before, a Cokin graduated filter was a good way of doing
>> this, but even specialized filters have fallen out of favour since
>> software took their places. Looks like the only way this will be
>> fixed is when HDR becomes a normal, in-camera process and looks
>> realistic, which will be a long time coming.

> Kodak's upcoming "EasyShare Max Z990" (12 megapixels, 30x optical
> zoom) will have a built-in HDR mode.

Some Sony DSLRs have had HDR for at least a year.

--
Chris Malcolm