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if you hate Indian programmers, post in this thread.

Le 24/02/11 13:17, K4 Monk a écrit :
> if you hate Indian programmers, post in this thread.

Mmm, I do not hate Indian programmers but I do hate assholes.

They are a REAL nuisance

If I was Indian I would find this funny.
I find the whole racism thing quite funny unless it becomes abusive.

Note: By replying to this I do not claim to hate Indians or Indian
programmers.I think some of the greatest minds in the world are that of
Indian people.

Go Indians! Get coding in you wigwams.

On Feb 24, 8:26*pm, "Paul" <pchris...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> If I was Indian I would find this funny.
> I find the whole racism thing quite funny unless it becomes abusive.
>
> Note: By replying to this I do not claim to hate Indians or Indian
> programmers.I think some of the greatest minds in the world are that of
> Indian people.

but consider how many Indians there are. If you have a country of over
one billion people, some of them are deemed to be great minds. The
only problem I have with my fellow Indian programmers is that they are
never truly passionate about programming. Most of them are just in the
business because its the booming industry in India.

On Feb 24, 8:11 pm, Rohit Tripathi <rohit.x.tripa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 24, 8:26 pm, "Paul" <pchris...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> > If I was Indian I would find this funny.
> > I find the whole racism thing quite funny unless it becomes abusive.

> > Note: By replying to this I do not claim to hate Indians or Indian
> > programmers.I think some of the greatest minds in the world are that of
> > Indian people.

> but consider how many Indians there are. If you have a country of over
> one billion people, some of them are deemed to be great minds. The
> only problem I have with my fellow Indian programmers is that they are
> never truly passionate about programming. Most of them are just in the
> business because its the booming industry in India.

And that's not the case elsewhere? In just about any profession
(some professions in the arts are probably exceptions), anywhere
in the world, things like opportunities and potential income
enter into the choice, at least to some degree.

--
James Kanze

It's a very typical reaction - there are a lot of mediocre programmers
in India, but assuming all of them are, is pretty naive.
There are people everywhere, who are in the industry with career as a
primary goal, whereas those of us who are passionate about it, have
been doing it for a major part of our life (I for one, since I was ,
and will continue doing it until we're senile, whether we're paid for
it or not.

On Feb 25, 1:38 pm, rep_movsd <rep.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's a very typical reaction - there are a lot of mediocre programmers
> in India, but assuming all of them are, is pretty naive.

Just because someone chose this profession partially for
financial reasons doesn't necessarily mean he's mediocre. And
all of the Indian programmers I've known have been very good
(but then, I've not known as many as I've known French, German
or British programmers).

> There are people everywhere, who are in the industry with career as a
> primary goal, whereas those of us who are passionate about it, have
> been doing it for a major part of our life (I for one, since I was ,
> and will continue doing it until we're senile, whether we're paid for
> it or not.

I don't think it's necessarily a binary choice. If I had
a totally free choice about what to do fifty hours a week,
uninfluenced by pecunary constraints, it wouldn't be
programming. But I do like programming as well, and if my
profession were something else, I'd probably do some programming
as a hobby.

--
James Kanze

"James Kanze" <> wrote in message
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> On Feb 25, 1:38 pm, rep_movsd <rep.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> It's a very typical reaction - there are a lot of mediocre programmers
>> in India, but assuming all of them are, is pretty naive.
>
> Just because someone chose this profession partially for
> financial reasons doesn't necessarily mean he's mediocre. And
> all of the Indian programmers I've known have been very good
> (but then, I've not known as many as I've known French, German
> or British programmers).
>
>> There are people everywhere, who are in the industry with career as a
>> primary goal, whereas those of us who are passionate about it, have
>> been doing it for a major part of our life (I for one, since I was ,
>> and will continue doing it until we're senile, whether we're paid for
>> it or not.
>
> I don't think it's necessarily a binary choice. If I had
> a totally free choice about what to do fifty hours a week,
> uninfluenced by pecunary constraints, it wouldn't be
> programming. But I do like programming as well, and if my
> profession were something else, I'd probably do some programming
> as a hobby.
>
Does this mean if you had been a Java programmer you would dismiss the
official Java documents as unofficial irrellevant nonsense?
As you did in our last debate.

"Paul" <> wrote in message
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> "James Kanze" <> wrote in message
> news:88e465a3-722e-4717-aa00-...
>> On Feb 25, 1:38 pm, rep_movsd <rep.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> It's a very typical reaction - there are a lot of mediocre programmers
>>> in India, but assuming all of them are, is pretty naive.
>>
>> Just because someone chose this profession partially for
>> financial reasons doesn't necessarily mean he's mediocre. And
>> all of the Indian programmers I've known have been very good
>> (but then, I've not known as many as I've known French, German
>> or British programmers).
>>
>>> There are people everywhere, who are in the industry with career as a
>>> primary goal, whereas those of us who are passionate about it, have
>>> been doing it for a major part of our life (I for one, since I was ,
>>> and will continue doing it until we're senile, whether we're paid for
>>> it or not.
>>
>> I don't think it's necessarily a binary choice. If I had
>> a totally free choice about what to do fifty hours a week,
>> uninfluenced by pecunary constraints, it wouldn't be
>> programming. But I do like programming as well, and if my
>> profession were something else, I'd probably do some programming
>> as a hobby.
>>
> Does this mean if you had been a Java programmer you would dismiss the
> official Java documents as unofficial irrellevant nonsense?
> As you did in our last debate.
>
It's a shame you think you know more about Java than the official Java docs,
I used to think you have some more sense.

On Feb 25, 11:44*am, James Kanze <james.ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 25, 1:38 pm, rep_movsd <rep.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > It's a very typical reaction - there are a lot of mediocre programmers
> > in India, but assuming all of them are, is pretty naive.
>
> Just because someone chose this profession partially for
> financial reasons doesn't necessarily mean he's mediocre.

Agreed, but I'd point out there's a kind of ongoing choosing
of what we are going to do and large numbers of programmers
have sought to pad their accounts by picking the pockets of
companies. Picking the pockets by turning in mediocre work
that is perhaps justified by a sense of entitlement. It
used to be easier to make big bucks as a programmer and
guard your soul from the devil. These days most large and
medium sized companies have immoral policies.



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