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On , , Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:14:32 +1300, Re: emails wrongly put in spam file, Dave
Doe <> wrote:

>In article <ig58cu$oqv$>,
>, Geopelia says...
>>
>> "Dave Doe" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>> > In article <ig4822$q94$>,
>> > , Geopelia says...
>> >>
>> >> "PeeCee" <> wrote in message
>> >> news:ig3vh2$ul$...
>> >> > On 6/01/2011 9:44 a.m., Geopelia wrote:
>> >> >> I have Trend Micro.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Recently genuine emails are arriving in the Spam file.
>> >> >> Newsletters subscribed to, Library renewal notices, even order
>> >> >> confirmations from firms are arriving there instead of in the Inbox
>> >> >> folder.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I notify them as "false positives", but it still goes on.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It isn't really a problem as I check the spam file with the Inbox each
>> >> >> time,
>> >> >> but I wonder if anyone else is finding this, or if it is my computer.
>> >> >> I haven't changed any of the Trend Micro settings.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Is there anything I could do about it please?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > You should be talking to Trend Micro.
>> >> > There are some links in the help files.
>> >> > Look for "Contacting Technical Support"
>> >> >
>> >> > P.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Outlook Express, XP.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Geopelia
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> I've been over half an hour trying to find something relevant on their
>> >> website. There is somewhere to ask a question, but zero results.
>> >>
>> >> I'll just have to put up with it until whoever sorts out the spam at
>> >> Trend
>> >> Micro learns how to do the job properly. I suppose they've got a school
>> >> leaver just starting there. We used to get all kinds of problems with new
>> >> kids when I did office work, at this time of year.
>> >
>> > Shouldn't you ditch the product? Are you asking yourself, why do I pay
>> > these people money? (when there are better free products available).
>> >
>>
>> I've had Trend Micro since I got the computer, about 1994. I've found them
>> very good.
>
>Compared to?
>
>> This has only been happening recently.
>>
>> It could be something in my computer, anyway.
>
>No, it's Trend Micro doing the (erroneous) spam tagging. What else
>would it be?

Well if they are told about it they will hopefully sort it out in the next
patch/update.

--
"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor
to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."
Anatole France.

On , , 7 Jan 2011 05:30:23 GMT, Re: emails wrongly put in spam file, Gordon
<> wrote:

>On 2011-01-06, Geopelia <> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I've had Trend Micro since I got the computer, about 1994. I've found them
>> very good.
>
>How long a company has given you good service is no reason to hold onto them
>if they are now sinking.
>
>Personally, I would try turning it off, the spam control in Trend. Ones ISP
>does a pretty good job these days. 1994 is so way back in time internet
>wise

Today I received a piece of spam, the first time this year, considering I get
over 200 emails a day that is pretty bloody good considering.
Recently several members on our mailing list were hit with the "Send money, I'm
travelling and lost all my money" attack. We know someones email address list
has been hacked.
The members are all about the competency level Geopelia is at.
Hopefully we have managed to explain it properly and accurately and no one will
fall for it.

--
"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor
to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."
Anatole France.

"Gordon" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On 2011-01-06, Geopelia <> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I've had Trend Micro since I got the computer, about 1994. I've found
>> them
>> very good.
>
> How long a company has given you good service is no reason to hold onto
> them
> if they are now sinking.
>
> Personally, I would try turning it off, the spam control in Trend. Ones
> ISP
> does a pretty good job these days. 1994 is so way back in time internet
> wise

I had a look at that. It says I would have to close the email software
before turning the spam control off.
I don't want to start fiddling with anything like that, wouldn't know how to
do it anyway.

But tonight there was nothing in the spam, so perhaps they have fixed it
their end.

"Mgr. Scooter" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On , , 7 Jan 2011 05:30:23 GMT, Re: emails wrongly put in spam file,
> Gordon
> <> wrote:
>
>>On 2011-01-06, Geopelia <> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I've had Trend Micro since I got the computer, about 1994. I've found
>>> them
>>> very good.
>>
>>How long a company has given you good service is no reason to hold onto
>>them
>>if they are now sinking.
>>
>>Personally, I would try turning it off, the spam control in Trend. Ones
>>ISP
>>does a pretty good job these days. 1994 is so way back in time internet
>>wise
>
> Today I received a piece of spam, the first time this year, considering I
> get
> over 200 emails a day that is pretty bloody good considering.
> Recently several members on our mailing list were hit with the "Send
> money, I'm
> travelling and lost all my money" attack. We know someones email address
> list
> has been hacked.
> The members are all about the competency level Geopelia is at.
> Hopefully we have managed to explain it properly and accurately and no one
> will
> fall for it.
>

Nice to know there are others as dumb as me!
Geopelia

On , , Sat, 8 Jan 2011 02:24:14 +1300, Re: emails wrongly put in spam file,
"Geopelia" <> wrote:

>
>"Mgr. Scooter" <> wrote in message
>news:.. .
>> On , , 7 Jan 2011 05:30:23 GMT, Re: emails wrongly put in spam file,
>> Gordon
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2011-01-06, Geopelia <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've had Trend Micro since I got the computer, about 1994. I've found
>>>> them
>>>> very good.
>>>
>>>How long a company has given you good service is no reason to hold onto
>>>them
>>>if they are now sinking.
>>>
>>>Personally, I would try turning it off, the spam control in Trend. Ones
>>>ISP
>>>does a pretty good job these days. 1994 is so way back in time internet
>>>wise
>>
>> Today I received a piece of spam, the first time this year, considering I
>> get
>> over 200 emails a day that is pretty bloody good considering.
>> Recently several members on our mailing list were hit with the "Send
>> money, I'm
>> travelling and lost all my money" attack. We know someones email address
>> list
>> has been hacked.
>> The members are all about the competency level Geopelia is at.
>> Hopefully we have managed to explain it properly and accurately and no one
>> will
>> fall for it.
>>
>
>Nice to know there are others as dumb as me!

We have in excess of 2000 people on the list so I think that the level of
knowledge is the norm, as is yours.

--
"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor
to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."
Anatole France.

"Mgr. Scooter" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On , , Sat, 8 Jan 2011 02:24:14 +1300, Re: emails wrongly put in spam
> file,
> "Geopelia" <> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Mgr. Scooter" <> wrote in message
>>news:. ..
>>> On , , 7 Jan 2011 05:30:23 GMT, Re: emails wrongly put in spam file,
>>> Gordon
>>> <> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2011-01-06, Geopelia <> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've had Trend Micro since I got the computer, about 1994. I've found
>>>>> them
>>>>> very good.
>>>>
>>>>How long a company has given you good service is no reason to hold onto
>>>>them
>>>>if they are now sinking.
>>>>
>>>>Personally, I would try turning it off, the spam control in Trend. Ones
>>>>ISP
>>>>does a pretty good job these days. 1994 is so way back in time internet
>>>>wise
>>>
>>> Today I received a piece of spam, the first time this year, considering
>>> I
>>> get
>>> over 200 emails a day that is pretty bloody good considering.
>>> Recently several members on our mailing list were hit with the "Send
>>> money, I'm
>>> travelling and lost all my money" attack. We know someones email address
>>> list
>>> has been hacked.
>>> The members are all about the competency level Geopelia is at.
>>> Hopefully we have managed to explain it properly and accurately and no
>>> one
>>> will
>>> fall for it.
>>>
>>
>>Nice to know there are others as dumb as me!
>
> We have in excess of 2000 people on the list so I think that the level of
> knowledge is the norm, as is yours.
>

The level of people posting here is very much higher.
I always feel very dumb asking something that it seems everybody else knows.
The Help menus usually have everything except the one thing I want to know.

But people here are so nice to me.
Thanks to all, and a Happy New Year.

Geopelia

On , , Sat, 8 Jan 2011 13:39:17 +1300, Re: emails wrongly put in spam file,
"Geopelia" <> wrote:

>
>"Mgr. Scooter" <> wrote in message
>news:.. .
>> On , , Sat, 8 Jan 2011 02:24:14 +1300, Re: emails wrongly put in spam
>> file,
>> "Geopelia" <> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Mgr. Scooter" <> wrote in message
>>>news: ...
>>>> On , , 7 Jan 2011 05:30:23 GMT, Re: emails wrongly put in spam file,
>>>> Gordon
>>>> <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 2011-01-06, Geopelia <> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've had Trend Micro since I got the computer, about 1994. I've found
>>>>>> them
>>>>>> very good.
>>>>>
>>>>>How long a company has given you good service is no reason to hold onto
>>>>>them
>>>>>if they are now sinking.
>>>>>
>>>>>Personally, I would try turning it off, the spam control in Trend. Ones
>>>>>ISP
>>>>>does a pretty good job these days. 1994 is so way back in time internet
>>>>>wise
>>>>
>>>> Today I received a piece of spam, the first time this year, considering
>>>> I
>>>> get
>>>> over 200 emails a day that is pretty bloody good considering.
>>>> Recently several members on our mailing list were hit with the "Send
>>>> money, I'm
>>>> travelling and lost all my money" attack. We know someones email address
>>>> list
>>>> has been hacked.
>>>> The members are all about the competency level Geopelia is at.
>>>> Hopefully we have managed to explain it properly and accurately and no
>>>> one
>>>> will
>>>> fall for it.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Nice to know there are others as dumb as me!
>>
>> We have in excess of 2000 people on the list so I think that the level of
>> knowledge is the norm, as is yours.
>>
>
>The level of people posting here is very much higher.1

10 or 15 people posting and anothr 5 reading and not replying.

>I always feel very dumb asking something that it seems everybody else knows.

The only dumb question is the one you don't ask.

>The Help menus usually have everything except the one thing I want to know.

Ain't that the truth?

>But people here are so nice to me.
>Thanks to all, and a Happy New Year.

You too sweetheart, you too.

--
"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor
to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."
Anatole France.

Somewhere on teh intarwebs Dave Doe wrote:
> In article <ig58cu$oqv$>,
> , Geopelia says...
>>
>> "Dave Doe" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> In article <ig4822$q94$>,
>>> , Geopelia says...
>>>>
>>>> "PeeCee" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:ig3vh2$ul$...
>>>>> On 6/01/2011 9:44 a.m., Geopelia wrote:
>>>>>> I have Trend Micro.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Recently genuine emails are arriving in the Spam file.
>>>>>> Newsletters subscribed to, Library renewal notices, even order
>>>>>> confirmations from firms are arriving there instead of in the
>>>>>> Inbox folder.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I notify them as "false positives", but it still goes on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It isn't really a problem as I check the spam file with the
>>>>>> Inbox each time,
>>>>>> but I wonder if anyone else is finding this, or if it is my
>>>>>> computer. I haven't changed any of the Trend Micro settings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there anything I could do about it please?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You should be talking to Trend Micro.
>>>>> There are some links in the help files.
>>>>> Look for "Contacting Technical Support"
>>>>>
>>>>> P.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Outlook Express, XP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Geopelia
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> I've been over half an hour trying to find something relevant on
>>>> their website. There is somewhere to ask a question, but zero
>>>> results.
>>>>
>>>> I'll just have to put up with it until whoever sorts out the spam
>>>> at Trend
>>>> Micro learns how to do the job properly. I suppose they've got a
>>>> school leaver just starting there. We used to get all kinds of
>>>> problems with new kids when I did office work, at this time of
>>>> year.
>>>
>>> Shouldn't you ditch the product? Are you asking yourself, why do I
>>> pay these people money? (when there are better free products
>>> available).
>>>
>>
>> I've had Trend Micro since I got the computer, about 1994. I've
>> found them very good.
>
> Compared to?
>
>> This has only been happening recently.
>>
>> It could be something in my computer, anyway.
>
> No, it's Trend Micro doing the (erroneous) spam tagging. What else
> would it be?

My orcon email account often tags emails as spam before I pop them out,
including regular bills etc. I keep meaning to check by webmail and then
change it (as I don't have it set to leave a copy on server..... Actually
replying to this may have just helped me sort my problem :-] )
--
Shaun.

"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a
monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also
into you." Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche

In article <ig2l7b$trr$>,
, Geopelia says...
>
> I have Trend Micro.
>
> Recently genuine emails are arriving in the Spam file.
> Newsletters subscribed to, Library renewal notices, even order
> confirmations from firms are arriving there instead of in the Inbox folder.
>
> I notify them as "false positives", but it still goes on.
>
> It isn't really a problem as I check the spam file with the Inbox each time,
> but I wonder if anyone else is finding this, or if it is my computer.
> I haven't changed any of the Trend Micro settings.
>
> Is there anything I could do about it please?
>
> Outlook Express, XP.

http://www.av-comparatives.org/en/co...ummary-reports

(http://tinyurl.com/624k3m7)

http://www.av-
comparatives.org/images/stories/test/summary/summary2010.pdf

(http://tinyurl.com/6jz3kp5)

Trend-Micro does not rate very well.

If you want to *pay* for a product (as you are), then Avast is your
better bet - cheaper and better.

However (again), I'd recomend Microsoft's Security Essentials. It is
free. It has better detection than Trend-Micro. It won't **** your
email around (in terms of spam filtering), 'cos it doesn't do any. But
possibly best of all for users like yourself, it has a really easy to
use installation and interface in general - it's incredibly simple to
use and drive. You really don't need to do anything at all.

*Why* are you *paying* for a product that offers inferior protection to
most of it's competative products and is causing you email problems ???

Ditch Trend-Micro and put on Microsoft Security Essentials, or... if you
really *do* want to give your money away to an AV vendor, at least give
it to Avast - which will save you about $10 USD a year (it's that much
cheaper) and is much better rated.

Your PC will also perform better, as both Avast and Microsoft rate
highly for their performance (read: *doesn't* slow your computer down
too much).

http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/

http://www.avast.com/

About AV-Comparitives (http://www.av-comparatives.org/en/about-us)
AV-Comparatives is an Austrian Non-Profit-Organization, which is
providing independent Anti-Virus software tests free to the public. For
more information, please refer to the document with the FAQ.

--
Duncan.

"Dave Doe" <> wrote in message
news:...
> In article <ig2l7b$trr$>,
> , Geopelia says...
>>
>> I have Trend Micro.
>>
>> Recently genuine emails are arriving in the Spam file.
>> Newsletters subscribed to, Library renewal notices, even order
>> confirmations from firms are arriving there instead of in the Inbox
>> folder.
>>
>> I notify them as "false positives", but it still goes on.
>>
>> It isn't really a problem as I check the spam file with the Inbox each
>> time,
>> but I wonder if anyone else is finding this, or if it is my computer.
>> I haven't changed any of the Trend Micro settings.
>>
>> Is there anything I could do about it please?
>>
>> Outlook Express, XP.
>
> http://www.av-comparatives.org/en/co...ummary-reports
>
> (http://tinyurl.com/624k3m7)
>
> http://www.av-
> comparatives.org/images/stories/test/summary/summary2010.pdf
>
> (http://tinyurl.com/6jz3kp5)
>
> Trend-Micro does not rate very well.
>
> If you want to *pay* for a product (as you are), then Avast is your
> better bet - cheaper and better.
>
> However (again), I'd recomend Microsoft's Security Essentials. It is
> free. It has better detection than Trend-Micro. It won't **** your
> email around (in terms of spam filtering), 'cos it doesn't do any. But
> possibly best of all for users like yourself, it has a really easy to
> use installation and interface in general - it's incredibly simple to
> use and drive. You really don't need to do anything at all.
>
> *Why* are you *paying* for a product that offers inferior protection to
> most of it's competative products and is causing you email problems ???
>
> Ditch Trend-Micro and put on Microsoft Security Essentials, or... if you
> really *do* want to give your money away to an AV vendor, at least give
> it to Avast - which will save you about $10 USD a year (it's that much
> cheaper) and is much better rated.
>
> Your PC will also perform better, as both Avast and Microsoft rate
> highly for their performance (read: *doesn't* slow your computer down
> too much).
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/
>
> http://www.avast.com/
>
> About AV-Comparitives (http://www.av-comparatives.org/en/about-us)
> AV-Comparatives is an Austrian Non-Profit-Organization, which is
> providing independent Anti-Virus software tests free to the public. For
> more information, please refer to the document with the FAQ.
>

All the tests I've seen think Trend Micro is a good one. I'll look at those
websites and think about it.

Thanks for the information.
Geopelia