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Dustin wrote:
> "Jenn" <> wrote in
> news:ifmb0f$3vp$:
>
>> SeaNymph wrote:
>>> "Jenn" <> wrote in message
>>
>>>>> You're missing the point. MS called you a sysop. That's fine.
>>>>> MS definies the term differently than most others. That's the
>>>>> point.
>>
>>>> So? It does not negate that I was a Sysop for MSN.
>>
>>> And nobody ever said it did.
>>
>> Yes they did ... aardvark wanted me to demean what I did by saying
>> it "wasn't the purest definition of the word" therefore I wasn't
>> REALLY a sysop. I'm not doing that. There are at LEAST 3
>> applications for the term, sysop, and MSN fits definitions #2 & #3.
>> Dustins version of Sysop was definition #1.


> When you view something besides wikipedia; say a real dictionary.com
> site; you get this:

Do you know the standards wikipedia has to go through for any text to be
allowed to be published? There has to be verifiable proof that what is
published is to anyones best knowledge true. A person can't even edit a
wiki unless they can verify every dot and letter from some reliable source.
So, I'm fairly confident that the definition provided by that wiki is spot
on.

>
> An MSN chatroom was years after the creation of the bulletin board
> systems; Jenn. Your definitions #2 and #3 are later user added crap to
> try and justify IrcOper positions; which is what you actually were on
> MSN. Not a SysOp.


>> I am a knowledgeable person and I say I WAS a sysop by definition,
>> had the job, got paid for it, and did it for several years.


> Your knowledge is greatly disputed amongst other knowledgeable people
> in the field of computing. And by definition, dictionary.com no less;
> not wikipedia; you were NOT a SysOp.

I was a sysop based on definition #2 & #3 that I provided, and I worked with
a couple hundred others over the period of time I was one.


>>> The point people are
>>> trying to make is the the use of the term by MS is incorrect.
>>
>> They are lieing.


> No, they aren't. MS ****ed the term up just as they have with other
> terms and copyrights from other companies. It's the MS way. You played
> right into it.

I can't help you don't like MS.... take it up with them.


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Jenn (from Oklahoma)

"Jenn" <> wrote in
news:ifmemm$85c$:

>> When you view something besides wikipedia; say a real
>> dictionary.com site; you get this:
>
> Do you know the standards wikipedia has to go through for any text
> to be allowed to be published? There has to be verifiable proof

New standards now finally? In what possible way does that make
wikipedia more reliable than dictionary.com?


> I was a sysop based on definition #2 & #3 that I provided, and I
> worked with a couple hundred others over the period of time I was
> one.

That you provided.. LOL, funny!

>> No, they aren't. MS ****ed the term up just as they have with other
>> terms and copyrights from other companies. It's the MS way. You
>> played right into it.
>
> I can't help you don't like MS.... take it up with them.

You didn't learn much from the kids teasing you in school if the best
you could accomplish was weak imitations.


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Dustin wrote:
> "Jenn" <> wrote in
> news:ifmemm$85c$:
>
>>> When you view something besides wikipedia; say a real
>>> dictionary.com site; you get this:
>>
>> Do you know the standards wikipedia has to go through for any text
>> to be allowed to be published? There has to be verifiable proof

> New standards now finally? In what possible way does that make
> wikipedia more reliable than dictionary.com?

dictionary.com is one reference ... wiki has many verifiable references to
the information they publish.


>> I was a sysop based on definition #2 & #3 that I provided, and I
>> worked with a couple hundred others over the period of time I was
>> one.


> That you provided.. LOL, funny!

I didn't write the wiki ... and you can actually view their references.




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Jenn (from Oklahoma)