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richard
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      11-12-2010
A simple argument from another poster in 24hoursupport.helpdesk needs to
have his head slapped a little.
His claim is that Outlook Express emails will automatically open in IE
because IE handles html. I have tried to explain to him that OE handles
html emails within itself but he just won't accept this as fact.

In all the years that I have used OE, I have never once seen IE open and
render the email.

Would a few of you kind souls kindly slap the ignorant fool around a bit?
Thank you.

Warning! Flames from the other group are sure to be had. They will advise
you of MY reputation and ignorance. Ignore them.
 
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richard
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      11-12-2010
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 22:03:53 -0800, Evan Platt wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 22:15:11 -0700, richard <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>>A simple argument from another poster in 24hoursupport.helpdesk needs to
>>have his head slapped a little.

>
> You need to have your head slapped whenever you open your mouth.
>
>>His claim is that Outlook Express emails will automatically open in IE
>>because IE handles html. I have tried to explain to him that OE handles
>>html emails within itself but he just won't accept this as fact.

>
> No, that's not what Mike stated.
>
> "...if your OE is configured to call on IE to render html"
>
> and BTS stated "... Outlook Express uses Internet Explorer to render
> HTML e-mail."
>
>>In all the years that I have used OE, I have never once seen IE open and
>>render the email.

>
> You don't see IE open, but it does render the e-mail.
>
>>Would a few of you kind souls kindly slap the ignorant fool around a bit?
>>Thank you.

>
> What's the point, bullshit Bullis? You do this all the time. You get
> corrected, and then you keep insisting you're right and everyone else
> is wrong.
>
> You were challenged when you didn't believe the First Amendment
> provides Separation of church and state. You posted in misc.legal, and
> a dozen people told you it was right there, and you argued with every
> one of them.
>
> So really, what's the point? A dozen people will no doubt bitchslap
> you, and you'll never admit you were wrong.
>
>>Warning! Flames from the other group are sure to be had. They will advise
>>you of MY reputation and ignorance. Ignore them.

>
> Your ignorance is no doubt widely known.
>
> You've stated men have more ribs than women.
> You've stated men have an Adams Apple, and women don't.


I said men have a more predominant Adams Apple.

> You've stated Windows Mail can be installed on XP.


No I did not. But why can't it be? The big question there is, once
installed, will it work as intended?

> You've stated Dubai is on the continent of Africa.


No I did not. I said, that you can not go snow skiing on the African
continent. But you can in Dubai. That statement does not place Dubai on the
african continent.


>
> Trust me, if anyone calls you an idiot, you've earned the title.


Trust Evan Platt the usenet stalker?
Then I have some ocean front property in arizona to sell you dirt cheap.
 
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Desk Rabbit
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      11-12-2010
On 12/11/2010 05:15, richard wrote:
> A simple argument from another poster in 24hoursupport.helpdesk needs to
> have his head slapped a little.
> His claim is that Outlook Express emails will automatically open in IE
> because IE handles html. I have tried to explain to him that OE handles
> html emails within itself but he just won't accept this as fact.


You are the only one making the claim that OE opens mail in IE.

>
> In all the years that I have used OE, I have never once seen IE open and
> render the email.


And you never will and nor will anybody else. The problem is that you
are just too stupid to understand what has been explained to you by many
people. OE uses the IE engine to render HTML mail.

Oh and while we are at it, Rich text and HTML are not the same thing.


> Would a few of you kind souls kindly slap the ignorant fool around a bit?
> Thank you.
>
> Warning! Flames from the other group are sure to be had. They will advise
> you of MY reputation and ignorance. Ignore them.


It's a reputation you have earned and only a fool would go into another
group to spread that reputation. QED.

 
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Brian Cryer
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      11-12-2010
"richard" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:1wxjx30p147sw$(E-Mail Removed)...
>A simple argument from another poster in 24hoursupport.helpdesk needs to
> have his head slapped a little.
> His claim is that Outlook Express emails will automatically open in IE
> because IE handles html. I have tried to explain to him that OE handles
> html emails within itself but he just won't accept this as fact.


The truth is somewhere between the two:

1. Both IE and OE use the same browser *component* to render HTML emails.
(If you develop software then you can use the same componet in your
application to render html, its very versatile.)

2. If you click on a link and it opens in a browser, then whether that's IE
or FF or something else depends on your set-up, although it will be IE by
default.

> In all the years that I have used OE, I have never once seen IE open and
> render the email.
> Would a few of you kind souls kindly slap the ignorant fool around a bit?


I don't think this attitude helps you (or the person you are conversing
with). Children might slap each other around a bit, but as an adult (which I
assume you are) you should be above that. I do understand that at times we
all get aggrevated, but language like that will only loose you respect.
"slap" and "ignorant fool" are terms used by trolls, so best to avoid
anything like that or the emotive content they suggest, especially in an
open public forum.
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Brian Cryer
http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian

 
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty
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      11-12-2010
Your choice of subject line already indicates you don't understand.
"open with browsers" ??

richard the st00pid wrote:

> A simple argument from another poster in 24hoursupport.helpdesk needs
> to have his head slapped a little. His claim is that Outlook Express
> emails will automatically open in IE


I/we never said that, St00pid. I said OE uses the IE *engine* to display
HTML email in OE. Nobody said the mail opens in an *IE window*.

> because IE handles html. I have tried to explain to him that OE
> handles html emails within itself but he just won't accept this as
> fact.
>
> In all the years that I have used OE, I have never once seen IE open
> and render the email.


Since you won't believe various reputable references posted for you to
read on exactly how OE displays HTML email, why would you believe anyone
in these other groups you've subjected to your stupidity?

> Would a few of you kind souls kindly slap the ignorant fool around a
> bit? Thank you.
>
> Warning! Flames from the other group are sure to be had. They will
> advise you of MY reputation and ignorance. Ignore them.


Your reputation and ignorance is legendary.

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-bts
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G. Morgan
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      11-12-2010
richard <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>A simple argument from another poster in 24hoursupport.helpdesk needs to
>have his head slapped a little.
>His claim is that Outlook Express emails will automatically open in IE
>because IE handles html. I have tried to explain to him that OE handles
>html emails within itself but he just won't accept this as fact.


That's because you're wrong.

>In all the years that I have used OE, I have never once seen IE open and
>render the email.


It doesn't have to. IE integrates right into OLE, just like it does with
Windows Explorer.

>Would a few of you kind souls kindly slap the ignorant fool around a bit?
>Thank you.


Heh!

>Warning! Flames from the other group are sure to be had. They will advise
>you of MY reputation and ignorance.


Something you don't deny I see.

> Ignore them.


Can we at least tell them your name? It's RtS (Richard the St00pid)
 
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Steve Cochran
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      11-12-2010
Well, I guess the civility level of this thread indicates why MS killed its
NGs.

As others indicate, for HTML and plain text messages OE uses the IE engine
to display the message. If you use SPY++ you will see the display window
for the messages is an IE window. When selecting the View messages in plain
text only, then OE uses an more Notepad like window to display the text and
eliminates the IE window. That change was made in XP SP2 for "security"
purposes.

steve
MS-MVP
Outlook Express / Windows Mail
1998 - present


"richard" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:1wxjx30p147sw$(E-Mail Removed)...
>A simple argument from another poster in 24hoursupport.helpdesk needs to
> have his head slapped a little.
> His claim is that Outlook Express emails will automatically open in IE
> because IE handles html. I have tried to explain to him that OE handles
> html emails within itself but he just won't accept this as fact.



 
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Desk Rabbit
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      11-12-2010
On 12/11/2010 06:31, richard wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 22:03:53 -0800, Evan Platt wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 22:15:11 -0700, richard<(E-Mail Removed)>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> A simple argument from another poster in 24hoursupport.helpdesk needs to
>>> have his head slapped a little.

>>
>> You need to have your head slapped whenever you open your mouth.
>>
>>> His claim is that Outlook Express emails will automatically open in IE
>>> because IE handles html. I have tried to explain to him that OE handles
>>> html emails within itself but he just won't accept this as fact.

>>
>> No, that's not what Mike stated.
>>
>> "...if your OE is configured to call on IE to render html"
>>
>> and BTS stated "... Outlook Express uses Internet Explorer to render
>> HTML e-mail."
>>
>>> In all the years that I have used OE, I have never once seen IE open and
>>> render the email.

>>
>> You don't see IE open, but it does render the e-mail.
>>
>>> Would a few of you kind souls kindly slap the ignorant fool around a bit?
>>> Thank you.

>>
>> What's the point, bullshit Bullis? You do this all the time. You get
>> corrected, and then you keep insisting you're right and everyone else
>> is wrong.
>>
>> You were challenged when you didn't believe the First Amendment
>> provides Separation of church and state. You posted in misc.legal, and
>> a dozen people told you it was right there, and you argued with every
>> one of them.
>>
>> So really, what's the point? A dozen people will no doubt bitchslap
>> you, and you'll never admit you were wrong.
>>
>>> Warning! Flames from the other group are sure to be had. They will advise
>>> you of MY reputation and ignorance. Ignore them.

>>
>> Your ignorance is no doubt widely known.
>>
>> You've stated men have more ribs than women.
>> You've stated men have an Adams Apple, and women don't.

>
> I said men have a more predominant Adams Apple.
>
>> You've stated Windows Mail can be installed on XP.

>
> No I did not. But why can't it be? The big question there is, once
> installed, will it work as intended?
>
>> You've stated Dubai is on the continent of Africa.

>
> No I did not. I said, that you can not go snow skiing on the African
> continent. But you can in Dubai. That statement does not place Dubai on the
> african continent.


Your lack of comprehension and basic writing skills get you into so much
trouble I'd recommend giving up Usenet and concentrate on trying to hit
the inside of the spitoon instead.
 
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Desk Rabbit
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      11-12-2010
On 12/11/2010 13:41, Steve Cochran wrote:
>
>
> "richard"<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:1wxjx30p147sw$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> A simple argument from another poster in 24hoursupport.helpdesk needs to
>> have his head slapped a little.
>> His claim is that Outlook Express emails will automatically open in IE
>> because IE handles html. I have tried to explain to him that OE handles
>> html emails within itself but he just won't accept this as fact.

>
>
> Well, I guess the civility level of this thread indicates why MS killed its
> NGs.
>
> As others indicate, for HTML and plain text messages OE uses the IE engine
> to display the message. If you use SPY++ you will see the display window
> for the messages is an IE window. When selecting the View messages in plain
> text only, then OE uses an more Notepad like window to display the text and
> eliminates the IE window. That change was made in XP SP2 for "security"
> purposes.
>
> steve
> MS-MVP
> Outlook Express / Windows Mail
> 1998 - present


I've corrected your top posting error for you.

It's evident that you haven't come across richard before, the resident
idiot of 24hoursupport.helpdesk

The self same explanation was given to him in that group but he chose to
wander into this group to demonstrate to even more people how wrong he is.

We apologise for this intrusion into your newsgroup by our resident
idiot. We have ordered a larger and shorter chain with a free straitjacket.
 
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Mike Yetto
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      11-12-2010
richard <(E-Mail Removed)> writes and having writ moves on.
<crap removed>

Deliberately inviting a cross-posted flame war is beyond the
pale. Your behaviour is less acceptable than your advice.

Mike "do you have any value (or values)?" Yetto
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In theory, theory and practice are the same.
In practice they are not.
 
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