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VanguardLH wrote:

> Once you said "corporate" version and putting it on this friend's host
> you gave yourself away. No presumption required. You outted
> yourself.

Then we have something in common?

>>> All instances of the "corporate" volume license are to remain within
>>> the organization to which that volume license was sold.
>>
>> It's legitimate, it's mine, and like anyone else, I'll do with it as
>> I choose best. Thanks for your concern tho.
>
> Wrong. All you bought (assuming you bought it) was a *license*. You
> NEVER bought the software.

I'll burn every bootleg, every copied movie I own. You hath shown
me the errorrrrrs of my ways.

> And, of course, it's your company and this
> friend is suddenly going to become your employee so you can legally
> parse out an instance of that volume license. Uh huh. You're just
> digging a deeper hole for your excuse.

I'm not digging anything. I just enjoy ****ing with you since you
came in on a thread, offered no help, and thought you'd play
net nazi. At this point, there is no computer to give away yet, it
has no software on it, and lastly, I couldn't really give a flying
**** what your opinion is on it. How's that?

>> You should worry more over illegal aliens, corporate welfare, muslim
>> fanatics and the jobless rate. These things may actually matter to
>> you.
>
> Oh, female logic. When losing the argument, attempt diversion to a
> completely different topics or justify using unrelated bullshit
> excuses.

Ahhhh, but there is no *argument* nor any diversion. I told you
what I planned to do. You have no say-so in the matter, thus
no argument. If you feel you have "won" anything, feel free to
pick up your prize at the door. And I've no need to justify
anything... I'm simply ****ing with you and you don't like it.
Thanks for playing tho. HTH HAND

On 01/11/2010 00:55, 83LowRider wrote:
> VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> "Corporate" licenses are volume licenses. They are not to get sliced
>> up to pass instances of the volume license to entities outside the
>> organization to which the volume license was originally distributed.
>> Folks on eBay trying to slice up volume licenses have discovered their
>> "error" (in trying to sell pirated copies), like trying to slice up a
>> 5-volume license of Windows or Quicken.
>
> And once again, you're presuming. You presume I wasn't aware
> of what you wrote above. You presume I'm using pirated software
> to put on an antique computer to give an antique old man.
>
>> All instances of the "corporate" volume license are to remain within
>> the organization to which that volume license was sold.
>
> It's legitimate, it's mine, and like anyone else, I'll do with it as I
> choose best. Thanks for your concern tho.

It's not yours. You bought a license to use it within the terms of the
license. Those terms do not include giving it away to other people
outside your organisation.

You are doing your friend no favours whatsoever by involving him in
software piracy and potentially exposing him to potential stress through
being investigated for using software illegally not to mention the very
real possibility of legal action. Some friend you are!

Grab a copy of a Linux OS such as Ubuntu or buy a license to use on that
machine and do the job properly.

VanguardLH <> wrote:

>Oh, female logic. When losing the argument, attempt diversion to a
>completely different topics or justify using unrelated bullshit excuses.

How do you know the OP is female?

How do you know he/she is not using the software legally?

I've read nothing that implicates this person of piracy, just your baseless
accusation.

Do you work for Micro$oft? Are you law enforcement? What is your reason for
questioning this fellow?

Desk Rabbit wrote:

> It's not yours. You bought a license to use it within the terms of the
> license. Those terms do not include giving it away to other people
> outside your organisation.
>
> You are doing your friend no favours whatsoever by involving him in
> software piracy and potentially exposing him to potential stress
> through being investigated for using software illegally not to
> mention the very real possibility of legal action. Some friend you
> are!
> Grab a copy of a Linux OS such as Ubuntu or buy a license to use on
> that machine and do the job properly.

Just what are you going on about? Until I tear back into it,
find out why it wouldn't format..... there is NO software on it.
At this point it is simply a box and some spare parts. I
could just as easily give him an old copy of Win98. I'm glad
tho, that there are people here worried over something that
does not yet exist. Please keep me in mind next time you
roll thru a red light or exceed the speed limit.

On 01/11/2010 18:23, 83LowRider wrote:
> Desk Rabbit wrote:
>
>> It's not yours. You bought a license to use it within the terms of the
>> license. Those terms do not include giving it away to other people
>> outside your organisation.
>>
>> You are doing your friend no favours whatsoever by involving him in
>> software piracy and potentially exposing him to potential stress
>> through being investigated for using software illegally not to
>> mention the very real possibility of legal action. Some friend you
>> are!
>> Grab a copy of a Linux OS such as Ubuntu or buy a license to use on
>> that machine and do the job properly.
>
> Just what are you going on about? Until I tear back into it,
> find out why it wouldn't format..... there is NO software on it.
> At this point it is simply a box and some spare parts. I
> could just as easily give him an old copy of Win98. I'm glad
> tho, that there are people here worried over something that
> does not yet exist. Please keep me in mind next time you
> roll thru a red light or exceed the speed limit.
>
>
My apologies, your account has obviously been hacked and it wasn't you
who said "It was my intent to make it usable and
give to a friend with no money/computer." and "It was actually my
intention for it to leave here with a corp copy of Win 2000"

You (Sorry, the person who hacked your account) may think that pirating
software doesn't hurt the megolithic Microsoft corporation. What people
forget is who this practice really does hurt and that is the small
computer dealers who lose software sales to piracy.

Desk Rabbit <> wrote:

>You (Sorry, the person who hacked your account) may think that pirating
>software doesn't hurt the megolithic Microsoft corporation. What people
>forget is who this practice really does hurt and that is the small
>computer dealers who lose software sales to piracy.


If he's anything like me, he's accumulated enough unused licenses to justify
giving a few away. I know I've paid for more M$FT O/S' than I use.

Here is an example of how it can happen:

1. I buy a HP laptop with pre-installed Win7 Home Premium x32.
2. I format the disk and the recovery partition.
3. I install Windows Ultimate x64 from a DVD I bought on eBay.

Now the way I see it, I still have a license for the Win7 Home Premium, with no
support from MSFT or HP of course.

A friend comes over with a hosed XP O/S and wants me to fix it. I offer to
install Win7, using my unused license from the OEM. Why should I buy another
license when I still have one that I paid for?

I know that is not officially the way it works, but hey, I paid for 2 O/S's and
I should get to use them both. Even if it requires using a "work-around" to get
the damn thing activated.

On 03/11/2010 08:57, G. Morgan wrote:
> Desk Rabbit<> wrote:
>
>> You (Sorry, the person who hacked your account) may think that pirating
>> software doesn't hurt the megolithic Microsoft corporation. What people
>> forget is who this practice really does hurt and that is the small
>> computer dealers who lose software sales to piracy.
>
>
> If he's anything like me, he's accumulated enough unused licenses to justify
> giving a few away. I know I've paid for more M$FT O/S' than I use.
>
> Here is an example of how it can happen:
>
> 1. I buy a HP laptop with pre-installed Win7 Home Premium x32.
> 2. I format the disk and the recovery partition.
> 3. I install Windows Ultimate x64 from a DVD I bought on eBay.
>
> Now the way I see it, I still have a license for the Win7 Home Premium, with no
> support from MSFT or HP of course.

You have a license to use it on that machine and that machine only.


> A friend comes over with a hosed XP O/S and wants me to fix it. I offer to
> install Win7, using my unused license from the OEM. Why should I buy another
> license when I still have one that I paid for?
Because an OEM license lives and dies with the machine it was supplied
with and is not transferable.

Desk Rabbit wrote:

<snip>

fwiw...

As G Morgan wrote, I too own a ton of discs. There are
five computers running at all times in my home. Two others
that run on occasion. I used MY old copy of Win98 to format
MY old computer. I will intstall MAME on it for him to play
endless arcade games, and I will give it away. That is all
there is to it. If you have a problem with me giving away an
antique computer to a basically homebound ol' man, then
you'll just have to deal with it. Should he ever desire to put
it online, it'll be between him and Bill Gates at that point.
None of this had anything to do with my problem. None of
this was any of your concern whatsoever. I post this as my
final word on the matter. Should you wish to scribe another
lecture on morality or things you can only assume, feel free.

83LowRider wrote:
> I was given a computer (minus hard drive) from
> a relative. It was my intent to make it usable and
> give to a friend with no money/computer. As the
> only use would be to play a few simple games,
> play mp3s or maybe some avi files I would send him
> (he's not interested in internet) this AMD 950Mhz
> seemed ideal. (it had a 256 stick of pc133 ram too)
>

<snip>
After a couple more tries, and a couple different
error messages the power supply was replaced
and the machine is running fine. Still don't understand
why it would have run for 30 minutes booting into
Win95, but refused more then 5 minutes into a format.
Thanks for the replies.

On 03/11/2010 10:44, 83LowRider wrote:
> Desk Rabbit wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> fwiw...
>
> As G Morgan wrote, I too own a ton of discs. There are
Owning disks which are simply the delivery method for getting the
software you are licensed to use with a set of parameters does not grant
you the right to give away copies of the software.

> five computers running at all times in my home. Two others
> that run on occasion. I used MY old copy of Win98 to format
> MY old computer. I will intstall MAME on it for him to play
> endless arcade games, and I will give it away. That is all
> there is to it. If you have a problem with me giving away an
> antique computer to a basically homebound ol' man, then
> you'll just have to deal with it. Should he ever desire to put
> it online, it'll be between him and Bill Gates at that point.
> None of this had anything to do with my problem. None of
> this was any of your concern whatsoever. I post this as my
> final word on the matter. Should you wish to scribe another
> lecture on morality or things you can only assume, feel free.
>
>
It's not morality it's law, it's copyright theft and the poor sod you
think you are helping will not thank you if you or he get caught out.