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Hp
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      10-13-2010
Ok, I sat here and went through the various MS suggested updates.
Some of them are for the .net crap, I seem to have .net 1.1, .net 2,
..net 3, .net 3.5 and .net 4 installed at this time. At least these are
all listed in the Add/Remove window.

Is there a valid reason to have these various versions still installed?

Can One Uninstall them all and then just install the most recent .net
stuff and get buy??


 
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Brian Cryer
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      10-14-2010
"Hp" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:i954as$n2f$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Ok, I sat here and went through the various MS suggested updates.
> Some of them are for the .net crap, I seem to have .net 1.1, .net 2, .net
> 3, .net 3.5 and .net 4 installed at this time. At least these are all
> listed in the Add/Remove window.
>
> Is there a valid reason to have these various versions still installed?
>
> Can One Uninstall them all and then just install the most recent .net
> stuff and get buy??


If an applicaton requires .NET then it requires a specific version. So if
you have something installed which requires .NET 3 then you need .NET 3 and
..NET 4 won't do. So, realistically you do need them all.

That said, whether you have any applications installed which require each of
those .net versions is another matter. No idea how you can track that down.
So you might get away with removing some of them, but personally I wouldn't
risk it.

Hope this helps.
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http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian

 
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Zu Arsschlaark!
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      10-14-2010

"Brian Cryer" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Hp" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:i954as$n2f$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Ok, I sat here and went through the various MS suggested updates.
>> Some of them are for the .net crap, I seem to have .net 1.1, .net 2, .net
>> 3, .net 3.5 and .net 4 installed at this time. At least these are all
>> listed in the Add/Remove window.
>>
>> Is there a valid reason to have these various versions still installed?
>>
>> Can One Uninstall them all and then just install the most recent .net
>> stuff and get buy??

>
> If an applicaton requires .NET then it requires a specific version. So if
> you have something installed which requires .NET 3 then you need .NET 3
> and .NET 4 won't do. So, realistically you do need them all.
>
> That said, whether you have any applications installed which require each
> of those .net versions is another matter. No idea how you can track that
> down. So you might get away with removing some of them, but personally I
> wouldn't risk it.
>
> Hope this helps.
> --
> Brian Cryer
> http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian
>



so why wont it allow me to keep previous versions of other things, 'just in
case' [without having to system restore] after an update .. why does .net
get to have a 'family'. lol



 
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Brian Cryer
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      10-14-2010
"Zu Arsschlaark!" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Brian Cryer" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:i96ipu$jmv$(E-Mail Removed)-september.org...
>> "Hp" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:i954as$n2f$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Ok, I sat here and went through the various MS suggested updates.
>>> Some of them are for the .net crap, I seem to have .net 1.1, .net 2,
>>> .net 3, .net 3.5 and .net 4 installed at this time. At least these are
>>> all listed in the Add/Remove window.
>>>
>>> Is there a valid reason to have these various versions still installed?
>>>
>>> Can One Uninstall them all and then just install the most recent .net
>>> stuff and get buy??

>>
>> If an applicaton requires .NET then it requires a specific version. So if
>> you have something installed which requires .NET 3 then you need .NET 3
>> and .NET 4 won't do. So, realistically you do need them all.
>>
>> That said, whether you have any applications installed which require each
>> of those .net versions is another matter. No idea how you can track that
>> down. So you might get away with removing some of them, but personally I
>> wouldn't risk it.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>> --
>> Brian Cryer
>> http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian

>
> so why wont it allow me to keep previous versions of other things, 'just
> in case' [without having to system restore] after an update .. why does
> .net get to have a 'family'. lol


Its the way they designed it - .net that is. Its to avoid "dll hell" - where
different applications have different library files but with the same name,
so installing one application can break another (for more info you you are
interested see http://everything.explained.at/DLL_hell/ ). It does seem to
work very well, and is one of those things which Microsoft seem to have got
right.
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http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian



 
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Zu Arsschlaark!
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      10-14-2010

"Brian Cryer" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Zu Arsschlaark!" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> "Brian Cryer" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:i96ipu$jmv$(E-Mail Removed)-september.org...
>>> "Hp" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:i954as$n2f$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Ok, I sat here and went through the various MS suggested updates.
>>>> Some of them are for the .net crap, I seem to have .net 1.1, .net 2,
>>>> .net 3, .net 3.5 and .net 4 installed at this time. At least these are
>>>> all listed in the Add/Remove window.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a valid reason to have these various versions still installed?
>>>>
>>>> Can One Uninstall them all and then just install the most recent .net
>>>> stuff and get buy??
>>>
>>> If an applicaton requires .NET then it requires a specific version. So
>>> if you have something installed which requires .NET 3 then you need .NET
>>> 3 and .NET 4 won't do. So, realistically you do need them all.
>>>
>>> That said, whether you have any applications installed which require
>>> each of those .net versions is another matter. No idea how you can track
>>> that down. So you might get away with removing some of them, but
>>> personally I wouldn't risk it.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> --
>>> Brian Cryer
>>> http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian

>>
>> so why wont it allow me to keep previous versions of other things, 'just
>> in case' [without having to system restore] after an update .. why does
>> .net get to have a 'family'. lol

>
> Its the way they designed it - .net that is. Its to avoid "dll hell" -
> where different applications have different library files but with the
> same name, so installing one application can break another (for more info
> you you are interested see http://everything.explained.at/DLL_hell/ ). It
> does seem to work very well, and is one of those things which Microsoft
> seem to have got right.
> --
> Brian Cryer
> http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian
>
>


thanks thats interesting.
is there something that can tell one what is net/dll dependent as the case
may be?

 
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Mike Easter
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      10-20-2010
Zu wrote:

> is there something that can tell one what is net/dll dependent as the
> case may be?


When you install an application, you should be aware of what its
requirements are.

And you forgot to mention which v. windows you are running. Vista came
with .net 3; your headers here say NT 5.2 which is either XP 64bit,
Server 2003, or Home Server.

Maybe you should remove the .NET and find out what breaks and then
decide whether it is worthwhile to put in all of that bloat just to run it.


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Zu Arsschlaark!
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      10-21-2010

"Mike Easter" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Zu wrote:
>
>> is there something that can tell one what is net/dll dependent as the
>> case may be?

>
> When you install an application, you should be aware of what its
> requirements are.
>
> And you forgot to mention which v. windows you are running. Vista came
> with .net 3; your headers here say NT 5.2 which is either XP 64bit, Server
> 2003, or Home Server.
>
> Maybe you should remove the .NET and find out what breaks and then decide
> whether it is worthwhile to put in all of that bloat just to run it.
>
>
> --
> Mike Easter


sure i am, it advises me it needs such and such hardware as a minimum, such
and such software framework preinstalled or whatever.
but im guessing not ALL apps tell you everything ..
i cant remember if all apps installed these past few years use net or dll or
none or both.
be nice to have a facility that will help, as there are apps that help in
other ways with other system reportages.
without having to break something blind and wait and see ..doesnt seem a
smart move to me.


 
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