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As the "S/S Olympus 4/3rds" ship sinks, (Olympus abandoned it), thecrew get more violent!

 
 
RichA
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      09-26-2010
4/3rds sensors are fine for ultra compact cameras, but if you are
going to put up with a normal sized DSLR, you might as well have a
sensor size that makes sense, APS or FF. Meanwhile, the lame and now
dead (owing to pixel number growth in APS and FF) arguments about
"equivalency" can't even stop the boat from going down....

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=36450108
 
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Bruce
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      09-26-2010
RichA <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>4/3rds sensors are fine for ultra compact cameras, but if you are
>going to put up with a normal sized DSLR, you might as well have a
>sensor size that makes sense, APS or FF. Meanwhile, the lame and now
>dead (owing to pixel number growth in APS and FF) arguments about
>"equivalency" can't even stop the boat from going down....
>
>http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=36450108



Why are you so obsessed with a format (Four Thirds) that you have
moved on from?

 
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      09-27-2010
On Sep 26, 3:50*pm, Bruce <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> RichA <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >4/3rds sensors are fine for ultra compact cameras, but if you are
> >going to put up with a normal sized DSLR, you might as well have a
> >sensor size that makes sense, APS or FF. * Meanwhile, the lame and now
> >dead (owing to pixel number growth in APS and FF) arguments about
> >"equivalency" can't even stop the boat from going down....

>
> >http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=36450108

>
> Why are you so obsessed with a format (Four Thirds) that you have
> moved on from?


I own a G1.
 
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Bruce
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      09-27-2010
Rich <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>On Sep 26, 3:50*pm, Bruce <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> RichA <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> >4/3rds sensors are fine for ultra compact cameras, but if you are
>> >going to put up with a normal sized DSLR, you might as well have a
>> >sensor size that makes sense, APS or FF. * Meanwhile, the lame and now
>> >dead (owing to pixel number growth in APS and FF) arguments about
>> >"equivalency" can't even stop the boat from going down....

>>
>> >http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=36450108

>>
>> Why are you so obsessed with a format (Four Thirds) that you have
>> moved on from?

>
>I own a G1.



So why diss Four Thirds?

 
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RichA
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      09-27-2010
On Sep 27, 7:09*am, Bruce <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Rich <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >On Sep 26, 3:50*pm, Bruce <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >> RichA <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >> >4/3rds sensors are fine for ultra compact cameras, but if you are
> >> >going to put up with a normal sized DSLR, you might as well have a
> >> >sensor size that makes sense, APS or FF. * Meanwhile, the lame and now
> >> >dead (owing to pixel number growth in APS and FF) arguments about
> >> >"equivalency" can't even stop the boat from going down....

>
> >> >http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=36450108

>
> >> Why are you so obsessed with a format (Four Thirds) that you have
> >> moved on from?

>
> >I own a G1.

>
> So why diss Four Thirds?


There are two four-thirds forums. One is for the Olympus DSLRs, the
other for Olympus and Panasonic micro 4/3rds cameras. The problem is
the DSLRs. The cheap small ones (now all out of production) had
problems, principally, viewfinders that stunk. The one remaining
production model, the E-5 is a hulking pro-style camera with the small
4/3rds sensor. Olympus in all sanity should have brought out a small,
high-end body akin to Pentax's K7 or smaller, to take advantage of the
small sensor size and yet be compatible with the terrific pro and top
pro lens line. Instead, they canceled all of the cheaper DSLRs and
offered up (after 3 years) a slightly warmed over E-3 as the new E-5.
So, micro 4/3rds is fine (though a high-end body here would be good
too) but the current state of the 4/3rds DSLRs is BAAAADDD.
 
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RichA
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      09-27-2010
On Sep 27, 12:50*pm, "R. Mark Clayton" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:
> Really?
>
> four thirds must be outselling FF DSLR ten to one by now...
>
> "RichA" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> > 4/3rds sensors are fine for ultra compact cameras, but if you are
> > going to put up with a normal sized DSLR, you might as well have a
> > sensor size that makes sense, APS or FF. * Meanwhile, the lame and now
> > dead (owing to pixel number growth in APS and FF) arguments about
> > "equivalency" can't even stop the boat from going down....

>
> >http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=36450108


Nikon and Canon have nothing to compete with the micro 4/3rds or Sony
NEX cameras. They still dominate for the same reason Coke dominates
soft drinks and Nike dominates shoes: familiarity.
 
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Bruce
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      09-27-2010
RichA <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>On Sep 27, 7:09*am, Bruce <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> Rich <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> >On Sep 26, 3:50*pm, Bruce <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> >> RichA <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> >> >4/3rds sensors are fine for ultra compact cameras, but if you are
>> >> >going to put up with a normal sized DSLR, you might as well have a
>> >> >sensor size that makes sense, APS or FF. * Meanwhile, the lame and now
>> >> >dead (owing to pixel number growth in APS and FF) arguments about
>> >> >"equivalency" can't even stop the boat from going down....

>>
>> >> >http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=36450108

>>
>> >> Why are you so obsessed with a format (Four Thirds) that you have
>> >> moved on from?

>>
>> >I own a G1.

>>
>> So why diss Four Thirds?

>
>There are two four-thirds forums. One is for the Olympus DSLRs, the
>other for Olympus and Panasonic micro 4/3rds cameras. The problem is
>the DSLRs. The cheap small ones (now all out of production) had
>problems, principally, viewfinders that stunk. The one remaining
>production model, the E-5 is a hulking pro-style camera with the small
>4/3rds sensor. Olympus in all sanity should have brought out a small,
>high-end body akin to Pentax's K7 or smaller, to take advantage of the
>small sensor size and yet be compatible with the terrific pro and top
>pro lens line. Instead, they canceled all of the cheaper DSLRs and
>offered up (after 3 years) a slightly warmed over E-3 as the new E-5.
>So, micro 4/3rds is fine (though a high-end body here would be good
>too) but the current state of the 4/3rds DSLRs is BAAAADDD.



So why don't you just move on and enjoy the equipment you have, rather
than dissing what you no longer have?

I share your disappointment with the route that Olympus have taken
with Four Thirds. It is a pity that Olympus did not have earlier
access to a better sensor with more than 5 MP. It was only when
Panasonic started providing good quality 10 MP sensors that things
began to improve, but it was too late. Nothing anyone says or does
now is going to change that, and it is pointless moaning about it.

So, apart from a few diehards, those of us who invested in Four Thirds
need to move on and enjoy the equipment that replaced it.

 
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Bruce
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      09-28-2010
RichA <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Nikon and Canon have nothing to compete with the micro 4/3rds or Sony
>NEX cameras.



Not yet.

In 2011, they will, and they will revolutionise the micro format. In
particular, Canon's offering will make all other micro systems look
very dull.

 
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RichA
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      09-28-2010
On Sep 28, 5:52*am, Bruce <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> RichA <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >Nikon and Canon have nothing to compete with the micro 4/3rds or Sony
> >NEX *cameras.

>
> Not yet. *
>
> In 2011, they will, and they will revolutionise the micro format. *In
> particular, Canon's offering will make all other micro systems look
> very dull.


All they have to do is put a 4/3rds size sensor into a G12 and add a
bayonet.
 
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Bruce
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      09-28-2010
RichA <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>On Sep 28, 5:52*am, Bruce <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> RichA <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> >Nikon and Canon have nothing to compete with the micro 4/3rds or Sony
>> >NEX *cameras.

>>
>> Not yet. *
>>
>> In 2011, they will, and they will revolutionise the micro format. *In
>> particular, Canon's offering will make all other micro systems look
>> very dull.

>
>All they have to do is put a 4/3rds size sensor into a G12 and add a
>bayonet.



If they did that, they would be offering nothing new.

Fortunately, Canon's plans are for something very different.

 
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