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Robert Baer Inscribed thus:

> This is what i want to do: print mailto info in appropiate place on
> a
> standard #10 envelope, where the envelope is placed in the printer
> long way up, AND to the right of the paper input bin.
> At one point in the dim past, i got that to work (do NOT ask me
> how)
> but i had to re-type each and every new recipient name addr etc, so i
> "got fancy" and changed it for mail merge operation.
> Well, the mail-merge works, BUT the placement of print is totally
> out
> of whack. This is seen by using 8.5x11 paper in the printer and noting
> the image is A) to the left of that paper, and B) up 4 inches from the
> bottom, and _not_ the 2.5 inches "programmed" in the print setup.
> Now, no matter what i do, the result is wrong and i have no clue as
> to how to fix it; i even tried lying about dimensions, landscape VS
> portrait, etc to no avail.
> Help??


Hi Robert,
What make/model of printer are you using ?
What version of Windows ? If I recall you are still using W98SE.
what version of Word ?

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Baron.

"baron" <> wrote in message
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> Robert Baer Inscribed thus:
>
>> This is what i want to do: print mailto info in appropiate place on
>> a
>> standard #10 envelope, where the envelope is placed in the printer
>> long way up, AND to the right of the paper input bin.
>> At one point in the dim past, i got that to work (do NOT ask me
>> how)
>> but i had to re-type each and every new recipient name addr etc, so i
>> "got fancy" and changed it for mail merge operation.
>> Well, the mail-merge works, BUT the placement of print is totally
>> out
>> of whack. This is seen by using 8.5x11 paper in the printer and noting
>> the image is A) to the left of that paper, and B) up 4 inches from the
>> bottom, and _not_ the 2.5 inches "programmed" in the print setup.
>> Now, no matter what i do, the result is wrong and i have no clue as
>> to how to fix it; i even tried lying about dimensions, landscape VS
>> portrait, etc to no avail.
>> Help??
>
>
> Hi Robert,
> What make/model of printer are you using ?
> What version of Windows ? If I recall you are still using W98SE.
> what version of Word ?
>

All are excellent questions, by the way.

If the printer is old and the computer is new, is the print driver correct
for the OS?

Jeff Strickland Inscribed thus:

>
> "baron" <> wrote in message
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>> Robert Baer Inscribed thus:
>>
>>> This is what i want to do: print mailto info in appropiate place
>>> on a
>>> standard #10 envelope, where the envelope is placed in the printer
>>> long way up, AND to the right of the paper input bin.
>>> At one point in the dim past, i got that to work (do NOT ask me
>>> how)
>>> but i had to re-type each and every new recipient name addr etc, so
>>> i "got fancy" and changed it for mail merge operation.
>>> Well, the mail-merge works, BUT the placement of print is totally
>>> out
>>> of whack. This is seen by using 8.5x11 paper in the printer and
>>> noting the image is A) to the left of that paper, and B) up 4 inches
>>> from the bottom, and _not_ the 2.5 inches "programmed" in the print
>>> setup.
>>> Now, no matter what i do, the result is wrong and i have no clue
>>> as
>>> to how to fix it; i even tried lying about dimensions, landscape VS
>>> portrait, etc to no avail.
>>> Help??
>>
>>
>> Hi Robert,
>> What make/model of printer are you using ?
>> What version of Windows ? If I recall you are still using W98SE.
>> what version of Word ?
>>
>
> All are excellent questions, by the way.
>
> If the printer is old and the computer is new, is the print driver
> correct for the OS?

Its always worth checking.

--
Best Regards:
Baron.

Robert Baer Inscribed thus:

> baron wrote:
>> Robert Baer Inscribed thus:
>>
>>> This is what i want to do: print mailto info in appropiate place
>>> on a
>>> standard #10 envelope, where the envelope is placed in the printer
>>> long way up, AND to the right of the paper input bin.
>>> At one point in the dim past, i got that to work (do NOT ask me
>>> how)
>>> but i had to re-type each and every new recipient name addr etc, so
>>> i "got fancy" and changed it for mail merge operation.
>>> Well, the mail-merge works, BUT the placement of print is totally
>>> out
>>> of whack. This is seen by using 8.5x11 paper in the printer and
>>> noting the image is A) to the left of that paper, and B) up 4 inches
>>> from the bottom, and _not_ the 2.5 inches "programmed" in the print
>>> setup.
>>> Now, no matter what i do, the result is wrong and i have no clue
>>> as
>>> to how to fix it; i even tried lying about dimensions, landscape VS
>>> portrait, etc to no avail.
>>> Help??
>>
>>
>> Hi Robert,
>> What make/model of printer are you using ?
>> What version of Windows ? If I recall you are still using W98SE.
>> what version of Word ?
>>
> I am using Word from Office Student & Teacher edition 2003 as the
> Excel is supposed to be the most flexible with least bloat and
> problems.
> Installed in Win2K (i run DOS, Win98Se and Win2K).
> Printer: Canon BJC-4300.
> BTW, Word "preview" lies and shows envelope horizontal when in fact
> it is printing vertically.
Why am I not surprised !
> That does not help; only wasting paper can show facts.

Are the margins/headers & footers, set correctly ? If I recall they can
be set in both the printer utility and within Word. I haven't played
with a BJC-4300 for a long long time and I've never bothered with
Windows after W98ME though I do have a machine with XP kicking about
somewhere.

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Best Regards:
Baron.

"Robert Baer" <> wrote in message
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> baron wrote:
>> Robert Baer Inscribed thus:
>>
>>> This is what i want to do: print mailto info in appropiate place on
>>> a
>>> standard #10 envelope, where the envelope is placed in the printer
>>> long way up, AND to the right of the paper input bin.
>>> At one point in the dim past, i got that to work (do NOT ask me
>>> how)
>>> but i had to re-type each and every new recipient name addr etc, so i
>>> "got fancy" and changed it for mail merge operation.
>>> Well, the mail-merge works, BUT the placement of print is totally
>>> out
>>> of whack. This is seen by using 8.5x11 paper in the printer and noting
>>> the image is A) to the left of that paper, and B) up 4 inches from the
>>> bottom, and _not_ the 2.5 inches "programmed" in the print setup.
>>> Now, no matter what i do, the result is wrong and i have no clue as
>>> to how to fix it; i even tried lying about dimensions, landscape VS
>>> portrait, etc to no avail.
>>> Help??
>>
>>
>> Hi Robert,
>> What make/model of printer are you using ?
>> What version of Windows ? If I recall you are still using W98SE.
>> what version of Word ?
>>
> I am using Word from Office Student & Teacher edition 2003 as the Excel
> is supposed to be the most flexible with least bloat and problems.
> Installed in Win2K (i run DOS, Win98Se and Win2K).
> Printer: Canon BJC-4300.
> BTW, Word "preview" lies and shows envelope horizontal when in fact it
> is printing vertically.
> That does not help; only wasting paper can show facts.


You have a setting wrong in the printer.

OR

You have printer driver problems because you use an old operating system and
a version of Office that gets updates from Microsoft and the updates are not
compatible with the old operating system.

I open Word, select TOOLS>LETTERS AND MAILINGS>ENVELOPES AND LABELS.

A dialog box opens where I type in the mailing address I want printed. There
is an Options button where I can select a bizillion different envelope
options, and there is a pictoral display of what the envelope looks like and
where the address will be placed.

It doesn't get much easier.

"Robert Baer" <> wrote in message
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> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>> I open Word, select TOOLS>LETTERS AND MAILINGS>ENVELOPES AND LABELS.
>>
>> A dialog box opens where I type in the mailing address I want printed.
>> There is an Options button where I can select a bizillion different
>> envelope options, and there is a pictoral display of what the envelope
>> looks like and where the address will be placed.
>>
>> It doesn't get much easier.
> Yes, i saw those print options, which do not work as SEEN.
> Also, the envelope selection (envelopes and labels) does an ADD, making
> a 2-page document second page 8.5x11.
> And there is NO dialog box - but that does not matter because the
> printing winds up in the wrong place.
> BTW, deleting that non-envelope second pave bastardizes the first to be
> something very non-envelope.
> Like i said, i lied like crazy to make the damn thing work,


Your Word install is corrupted. The print is not working right.

I use Office 2003, and I told you how it works. If yours does not work as I
said, your install is hosed up somehow. Everything I told you works exactly
as I said. I seriously doubt that it's possible to use a printer older than
the one I have -- an HP LaserJet 4L.I'm pretty sure I was running Windows 97
when I got that printer.

I've seen you state repeatedly that you get an "ADD." What is an ADD?

"Robert Baer" <> wrote in message
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> When i select select TOOLS>LETTERS AND MAILINGS>
> ENVELOPES AND LABELS (eXactly as you mention), the options are ADD
> envelope and (a plain no-nonsense) labels).

What if you choose ADD , does it THEN prompt for " which envelope ?..."
Or a CD ?
Rather than focusing on your model, add another model printer in Control
panel, say an HP Deskjet - any one.
Open Word. Does that tab NOW work ? If not, it has nothing to do with your
specific printer.
If so, at least we know something ( 'cuz until now we've learned nothing)

Do you have the CD to reinstall/repair Word 2003 ?

"Robert Baer" <> wrote in message
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> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>> "Robert Baer" <> wrote in message
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>>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>>> I open Word, select TOOLS>LETTERS AND MAILINGS>ENVELOPES AND LABELS.
>>>>
>>>> A dialog box opens where I type in the mailing address I want printed.
>>>> There is an Options button where I can select a bizillion different
>>>> envelope options, and there is a pictoral display of what the envelope
>>>> looks like and where the address will be placed.
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't get much easier.
>>> Yes, i saw those print options, which do not work as SEEN.
>>> Also, the envelope selection (envelopes and labels) does an ADD,
>>> making a 2-page document second page 8.5x11.
>>> And there is NO dialog box - but that does not matter because the
>>> printing winds up in the wrong place.
>>> BTW, deleting that non-envelope second pave bastardizes the first to
>>> be something very non-envelope.
>>> Like i said, i lied like crazy to make the damn thing work,
>>
>>
>> Your Word install is corrupted. The print is not working right.
>>
>> I use Office 2003, and I told you how it works. If yours does not work as
>> I said, your install is hosed up somehow. Everything I told you works
>> exactly as I said. I seriously doubt that it's possible to use a printer
>> older than the one I have -- an HP LaserJet 4L.I'm pretty sure I was
>> running Windows 97 when I got that printer.
>>
>> I've seen you state repeatedly that you get an "ADD." What is an ADD?
>>
>>
> When i select select TOOLS>LETTERS AND MAILINGS>ENVELOPES AND LABELS
> (eXactly as you mention), the options are ADD envelope and (a plain
> no-nonsense) labels).


You have hosed up your installation of Office. I don't know what you did, or
could have done, but I'd be reinstalling Office about now before I screwed
around with anything else.

When you open a new document, or wish to address an envelope for an existing
document, you have a couple of options that all end up in the same place,
none of them remotely approaching what you describe.

In an existing document, assuming a letter, you can highlight the salutation
at the beginning where you have typed John Doe, the company, and address,
and click TOOLS>LETTERS AND MAILINGS>ENVELOPES AND LABELS. A dialog box
opens and the Address Information that you want printed will be filled in
because you have highlighted it already. You will have an Envelope tab and a
Label tab. Depending on the tab selected, you have options, select the
Envelop tab. You can change the selected envelope by clicking the Options
Button. There is a pictoral display of the selected envelope, and the
pritning location is shown fro the address and return address. You can omit
the return address if you desire.

If you just want to print a single envelope that has no associated document
from which you can select the desired information to be printed, then you
would click TOOLS>LETTERS AND MAILINGS>ENVELOPES AND LABELS (just like
above) and type in the that mailing address information into the space on
the open dialog box. You get the same tabs to choose from, and the same
options for nevelope size and the omission of the Return Address if you
desire that.

When you select the Labels Tab (instead of the Envelope Tab), then you will
get an entire sheet of labels with the address information you have typed in
or highlighted from the document.

If you experience is not as I have described, then you have a problem with
the installation of Office, or with the print driver, or both.

Automatic updates, or manual updates for that matter, will seek out not only
Operating System updates, but also Application Updates -- where Office is an
application that will receive updates from time to time. If Office has
gotten an update, then you may need an update driver for the printer. If you
have updated the printer driver for any reason, but not updated the
application or the OS, then maybe the print driver isn't compatible anymore.

I'd be reinstalling the printer about now, and reinstalliing Office. You are
the only one that knows what has been updated or changed, so you have to
decide which you want to do first.

There are interoperabilities and dependencies between Office components that
sometimes are not apparent, and sometimes not obvious. For example, I like
Full Menus on all programs, and I never like Personalized Menus that show a
few menu items and then display the remaining items after a delay of a few
seconds. For a long time, this feature could be turned on and off from
within Excel. the setting affected all Office Suite products, but not be set
from all products. In the case of Office '03, this can be set from within
Word as well as Excel, but the illustration is that maybe a print option was
made from an Option Menu in another Office Suite product that is making your
life miserable in Word.

I don't know that you share this machine with a herd of kids that go around
clicking stuff, or only you use it, and don't care. The point is, you are
describing problems that do not exist for anybody else, therefore you have a
unique issue with your settings. If you do what I said to do, and get a
different result, then you have to look through the Office settings, reload
Office, or change the driver. If the printer worked as you want to once upon
a time but doesn't work now, I'd try uninstalling the printer and removing
it from the hardware list in the Device Manager, then reloading it from
scratch using the original CD. If you don't have the original CD and
downloaded the driver from the printer's Website, then you might have an
imcompatiblity problem as a result.

"Robert Baer" <> wrote in message
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>- Bobb - wrote:
>> "Robert Baer" <> wrote in message
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>>> When i select select TOOLS>LETTERS AND MAILINGS>
>>> ENVELOPES AND LABELS (eXactly as you mention), the options are ADD
>>> envelope and (a plain no-nonsense) labels).
>>
>> What if you choose ADD , does it THEN prompt for " which envelope ?..."
>> Or a CD ?
> * NO prompts; one immediately gets a two page document like i previously
> stated; page ZERO is envelope and page ONE is 8.5 by 11 with big margins.
>
>> Rather than focusing on your model, add another model printer in Control
>> panel, say an HP Deskjet - any one.
>> Open Word. Does that tab NOW work ? If not, it has nothing to do with
>> your specific printer.
>> If so, at least we know something ( 'cuz until now we've learned nothing)
>>
>> Do you have the CD to reinstall/repair Word 2003 ?
> * Yes; why?
>

Because you need to reinstall/repair.