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From the “Only On Dimdows� file ...

The Windows shutdown process is so convoluted, that Microsoft has actually
managed to patent a way of (partially) speeding it up
<http://techdirt.com/articles/20100902/11511810881.shtml>.

As other commentators have said, let them have their stupid patent. It a)
doesn’t apply to sanely-designed OSes, and b) will prevent anybody else from
speeding up Windows’ shutdown.

This isn’t just killing two birds with one stone, this is Microsoft shooting
itself in both feet with one bullet.

On Sep 3, 11:37 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <l...@geek-
central.gen.new_zealand> wrote:
> From the “Only On Dimdows” file ...
>
> The Windows shutdown process is so convoluted, that Microsoft has actually
> managed to patent a way of (partially) speeding it up
> <http://techdirt.com/articles/20100902/11511810881.shtml>.
>
> As other commentators have said, let them have their stupid patent. It a)
> doesn’t apply to sanely-designed OSes, and b) will prevent anybody else from
> speeding up Windows’ shutdown.

In a decent OS that I used, each user, when finshed for the day, ran
the shutdown program. When there was only one user left, the system
shut down in about a tenth of a second, since there was nothing that
needed doing. The database indexes etc were completely updated during
each transaction. We couild actually just turn the power off if we
were sure nobody was using the system.

In message
<ded2a189-d7ef-4c0b-8a50->, Matty F
wrote:

> In a decent OS that I used, each user, when finshed for the day, ran
> the shutdown program. When there was only one user left, the system
> shut down in about a tenth of a second, since there was nothing that
> needed doing.

What a stupid way to do it.

> We couild actually just turn the power off if we were sure nobody was
> using the system.

Modern journalled/logging filesystems let you do that, too, with no
subsequent startup penalty.

On 05/09/10 21:07, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message
> <ded2a189-d7ef-4c0b-8a50->, Matty F
> wrote:
>
>> In a decent OS that I used, each user, when finshed for the day, ran
>> the shutdown program. When there was only one user left, the system
>> shut down in about a tenth of a second, since there was nothing that
>> needed doing.
>
> What a stupid way to do it.
>
That's predictable. Anything that doesn't conform to Lawrence's biasses
is "stupid".

Cheers,

Cliff

--

The ends justifies the means - Niccolò di Bernardo dei Machiavelli.

The end excuses any evil - Sophocles

On 8/09/2010 12:33 p.m., Allistar wrote:
> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> From the “Only On Dimdows� file ...
>
> What is "Dimdows" other than adolescent puerility?

It's a good keyword to filter out.

In message <i697kg$gq1$>, Bruce Sinclair wrote:

> In article <i6792s$jde$>, victor
> <> wrote:
>
>>On 8/09/2010 12:33 p.m., Allistar wrote:
>>
>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>>> From the “Only On Dimdows� file ...
>>>
>>> What is "Dimdows" other than adolescent puerility?
>>
>>It's a good keyword to filter out.
>
> Ah ! ...an excellent idea. My thanks.

Just so long as you refrain from including any mention of it in your own
postings.

SNAP!

In message <>, Allistar wrote:

> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> In message <i697kg$gq1$>, Bruce Sinclair
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <i6792s$jde$>, victor
>>> <> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 8/09/2010 12:33 p.m., Allistar wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> From the “Only On Dimdows� file ...
>>>>>
>>>>> What is "Dimdows" other than adolescent puerility?
>>>>
>>>>It's a good keyword to filter out.
>>>
>>> Ah ! ...an excellent idea. My thanks.
>>
>> Just so long as you refrain from including any mention of it in your own
>> postings.
>
> So why do you use the term? It's childishly unnecessary.

Hey, I’m not the one who keeps complaining about it while doing it anyway.

In message <>, Allistar wrote:

> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> In message <>, Allistar
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>>> In message <i697kg$gq1$>, Bruce Sinclair
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <i6792s$jde$>, victor
>>>>> <> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 8/09/2010 12:33 p.m., Allistar wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From the “Only On Dimdows� file ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is "Dimdows" other than adolescent puerility?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It's a good keyword to filter out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah ! ...an excellent idea. My thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Just so long as you refrain from including any mention of it in your
>>>> own postings.
>>>
>>> So why do you use the term? It's childishly unnecessary.
>>
>> Hey, I’m not the one who keeps complaining about it while doing it
>> anyway.
>
> I never use the term "Dimdows" in my posts.

You just did.

In message <>, Allistar wrote:

> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> In message <>, Allistar
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>>> In message <>, Allistar
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In message <i697kg$gq1$>, Bruce Sinclair
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <i6792s$jde$>, victor
>>>>>>> <> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On 8/09/2010 12:33 p.m., Allistar wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From the “Only On Dimdows� file ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is "Dimdows" other than adolescent puerility?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It's a good keyword to filter out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ah ! ...an excellent idea. My thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just so long as you refrain from including any mention of it in your
>>>>>> own postings.
>>>>>
>>>>> So why do you use the term? It's childishly unnecessary.
>>>>
>>>> Hey, I’m not the one who keeps complaining about it while doing it
>>>> anyway.
>>>
>>> I never use the term "Dimdows" in my posts.
>>
>> You just did.
>
> Only when quoting someone else.

A filter doesn’t know the difference, though. Any attempt to filter out that
word will make your own posts a casualty as well.

In message <>, Allistar wrote:

> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> In message <>, Allistar
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>>> In message <>, Allistar
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In message <>, Allistar
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In message <i697kg$gq1$>, Bruce
>>>>>>>> Sinclair wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In article <i6792s$jde$>, victor
>>>>>>>>> <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On 8/09/2010 12:33 p.m., Allistar wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> From the “Only On Dimdows� file ...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What is "Dimdows" other than adolescent puerility?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>It's a good keyword to filter out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ah ! ...an excellent idea. My thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just so long as you refrain from including any mention of it in
>>>>>>>> your own postings.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So why do you use the term? It's childishly unnecessary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey, I’m not the one who keeps complaining about it while doing it
>>>>>> anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> I never use the term "Dimdows" in my posts.
>>>>
>>>> You just did.
>>>
>>> Only when quoting someone else.
>>
>> A filter doesn’t know the difference, though. Any attempt to filter out
>> that word will make your own posts a casualty as well.
>
> I don't filter that word out.

Then why did you chime in on a discussion of filtering it out?