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"tony cooper" <> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:51:11 +0100, Alan Dunlop-Walters
> <> wrote:
>

>>By the way, it's only the Americans who add II, III, etc, after their
>>names. In the UK it's an unknown practice as we have the imagination to
>>give our children different first names to their fathers'. But then,
>>what would YOU know?
>
> Well, let's see. There was George I, George II, George III, George
> IV, George V, and George VI. Just to pick one example. What
> madness. The Edwards and Henrys went up to VIII.
>

Tony,

It isn't good form to stick pins in pomposity


--
Peter
Sometimes thinks like a Brit

On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:43:34 -0500, Neil
<> wrote:

>On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:00:51 -0400, tony cooper wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:51:11 +0100, Alan Dunlop-Walters
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>>On 27/07/2010 00:28, RichA wrote:
>>>> On Jul 26, 3:53 pm, Alan Dunlop-Walters<alanswo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 26/07/2010 19:13, George Kerby wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/26/10 10:45 AM, in article
>>>>>> 35a0c6b6-4200-4267-a903-32bd1b51b...@j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com,
>>>>>> "RichA" <rander3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> More uneducated, unemployed looney's to add to "special constables"
>>>>>>> who are already such a pain when it comes to photography.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Both of which you know nothing about.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong. It knows all about unemployed. If it was employed it
>>>>> couldn't possibly find the time to post all the shite it posts here.
>>>>
>>>> Er, you forgot the III after your name.
>>>
>>>You pathetic clueless ****. I had originally added a sentence to my
>>>post to the effect that you would respond exhibiting some form of
>>>jealousy of a proper British name, as you usually do, but then deleted
>>>it, and placed a bet with myself that you would do it anyway. As I
>>>predicted to myself, you are incapable of a real meaningful response.
>>>
>>>What is your job by the way? Oh wait, we know, is it queuing up once a
>>>week to collect your unemployable cretins benefit?
>>>
>>>By the way, it's only the Americans who add II, III, etc, after their
>>>names. In the UK it's an unknown practice as we have the imagination to
>>>give our children different first names to their fathers'. But then,
>>>what would YOU know?
>>
>> Well, let's see. There was George I, George II, George III, George IV,
>> George V, and George VI. Just to pick one example. What madness. The
>> Edwards and Henrys went up to VIII.ðNÝ,†8
>
>
>You have just failed your test. Those are the names they reigned under -
>not the names they were christened with. Look at the Popes if you want an
>analogy.

Speaking of failings, you said it was an "unknown practice" in the UK.
It isn't. It would not be an analogy to compare this to the practice
of identifying popes by number. You have not used "Popes" as a proper
noun, so no capital first letter is needed.

Not test scores that speak well of you.



--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

On 28/07/2010 06:00, tony cooper wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:51:11 +0100, Alan Dunlop-Walters
> <> wrote:
>
>> On 27/07/2010 00:28, RichA wrote:
>>> On Jul 26, 3:53 pm, Alan Dunlop-Walters<alanswo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 26/07/2010 19:13, George Kerby wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/26/10 10:45 AM, in article
>>>>> 35a0c6b6-4200-4267-a903-32bd1b51b...@j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, "RichA"
>>>>> <rander3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> More uneducated, unemployed looney's to add to "special constables"
>>>>>> who are already such a pain when it comes to photography.
>>>>
>>>>> Both of which you know nothing about.
>>>>
>>>> Wrong. It knows all about unemployed. If it was employed it couldn't
>>>> possibly find the time to post all the shite it posts here.
>>>
>>> Er, you forgot the III after your name.
>>
>> You pathetic clueless ****. I had originally added a sentence to my
>> post to the effect that you would respond exhibiting some form of
>> jealousy of a proper British name, as you usually do, but then deleted
>> it, and placed a bet with myself that you would do it anyway. As I
>> predicted to myself, you are incapable of a real meaningful response.
>>
>> What is your job by the way? Oh wait, we know, is it queuing up once a
>> week to collect your unemployable cretins benefit?
>>
>> By the way, it's only the Americans who add II, III, etc, after their
>> names. In the UK it's an unknown practice as we have the imagination to
>> give our children different first names to their fathers'. But then,
>> what would YOU know?
>
> Well, let's see. There was George I, George II, George III, George
> IV, George V, and George VI. Just to pick one example. What
> madness. The Edwards and Henrys went up to VIII.


The French went up to Louis XVIII. But then the Popes are up to John
XXIII, even though we can't normally talk about the father giving his
name to his children here.

--
Bertrand

"Alan Dunlop-Walters" <> wrote in message
news...
> On 28/07/2010 05:00, tony cooper wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:51:11 +0100, Alan Dunlop-Walters
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>> On 27/07/2010 00:28, RichA wrote:
>>>> On Jul 26, 3:53 pm, Alan Dunlop-Walters<alanswo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 26/07/2010 19:13, George Kerby wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/26/10 10:45 AM, in article
>>>>>> 35a0c6b6-4200-4267-a903-32bd1b51b...@j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com,
>>>>>> "RichA"
>>>>>> <rander3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> More uneducated, unemployed looney's to add to "special constables"
>>>>>>> who are already such a pain when it comes to photography.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Both of which you know nothing about.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong. It knows all about unemployed. If it was employed it couldn't
>>>>> possibly find the time to post all the shite it posts here.
>>>>
>>>> Er, you forgot the III after your name.
>>>
>>> You pathetic clueless ****. I had originally added a sentence to my
>>> post to the effect that you would respond exhibiting some form of
>>> jealousy of a proper British name, as you usually do, but then deleted
>>> it, and placed a bet with myself that you would do it anyway. As I
>>> predicted to myself, you are incapable of a real meaningful response.
>>>
>>> What is your job by the way? Oh wait, we know, is it queuing up once a
>>> week to collect your unemployable cretins benefit?
>>>
>>> By the way, it's only the Americans who add II, III, etc, after their
>>> names. In the UK it's an unknown practice as we have the imagination to
>>> give our children different first names to their fathers'. But then,
>>> what would YOU know?
>>
>> Well, let's see. There was George I, George II, George III, George
>> IV, George V, and George VI. Just to pick one example. What
>> madness. The Edwards and Henrys went up to VIII.
>>
>>
> Not exactly comparable to the G Bushes of this world, and that golfer
> Love,
> for example, whatever his silly name is. They were reigning Kings that
> you quote,
> hardly the same thing.


You seem to be among those who can't wait to put everything
American down.
Here is your naming convention for ordinary folk.
http://www.deyoungmatson.com/patrony...onventions.htm

BTW: do your male royals put their pants on one leg at a time, or do they
have some special physical facility.


--
Peter

"Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message
news:2010072814182637709-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom...
> On 2010-07-28 12:41:09 -0700, "Peter" <> said:
>
>> "Alan Dunlop-Walters" <> wrote in message
>> news...
>>> On 28/07/2010 05:00, tony cooper wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:51:11 +0100, Alan Dunlop-Walters
>>>> <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 27/07/2010 00:28, RichA wrote:
>>>>>> On Jul 26, 3:53 pm, Alan Dunlop-Walters<alanswo...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 26/07/2010 19:13, George Kerby wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 7/26/10 10:45 AM, in article
>>>>>>>> 35a0c6b6-4200-4267-a903-32bd1b51b...@j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com,
>>>>>>>> "RichA"
>>>>>>>> <rander3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> More uneducated, unemployed looney's to add to "special
>>>>>>>>> constables"
>>>>>>>>> who are already such a pain when it comes to photography.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Both of which you know nothing about.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wrong. It knows all about unemployed. If it was employed it
>>>>>>> couldn't
>>>>>>> possibly find the time to post all the shite it posts here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Er, you forgot the III after your name.
>>>>>
>>>>> You pathetic clueless ****. I had originally added a sentence to my
>>>>> post to the effect that you would respond exhibiting some form of
>>>>> jealousy of a proper British name, as you usually do, but then deleted
>>>>> it, and placed a bet with myself that you would do it anyway. As I
>>>>> predicted to myself, you are incapable of a real meaningful response.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is your job by the way? Oh wait, we know, is it queuing up once a
>>>>> week to collect your unemployable cretins benefit?
>>>>>
>>>>> By the way, it's only the Americans who add II, III, etc, after their
>>>>> names. In the UK it's an unknown practice as we have the imagination
>>>>> to
>>>>> give our children different first names to their fathers'. But then,
>>>>> what would YOU know?
>>>>
>>>> Well, let's see. There was George I, George II, George III, George
>>>> IV, George V, and George VI. Just to pick one example. What
>>>> madness. The Edwards and Henrys went up to VIII.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Not exactly comparable to the G Bushes of this world, and that golfer
>>> Love,
>>> for example, whatever his silly name is. They were reigning Kings that
>>> you quote,
>>> hardly the same thing.
>>
>>
>> You seem to be among those who can't wait to put everything
>> American down.
>> Here is your naming convention for ordinary folk.
>> http://www.deyoungmatson.com/patrony...onventions.htm
>>
>
> That is an interesting site.
> It seems my family didn't follow those conventions.
> I am a first and only son, and I got my Maternal Grandfather's middle
> name, as a first name, and a Paternal uncle's first name as a middle name.
> That worked out to be a good thing. If I had my Paternal Grandfather's
> name I would have been "George Washington" so I dodged being another "GW"
> by an accident of non-convention.
>


I have a friend , Dominik, from Ireland. When I mentioned he was the first
Irish Dominik I met, he said it was the custom to name children after the
saint whose day was closest to the birthday. He figured that had he been
born a day later. his name would have been Bridget.


--
Peter

On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:42:46 -0400, "Peter"
<> wrote:

>"Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message
>news:2010072814182637709-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom...
>> On 2010-07-28 12:41:09 -0700, "Peter" <> said:
>>
>>> "Alan Dunlop-Walters" <> wrote in message
>>> news...
>>>> On 28/07/2010 05:00, tony cooper wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:51:11 +0100, Alan Dunlop-Walters
>>>>> <> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 27/07/2010 00:28, RichA wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 26, 3:53 pm, Alan Dunlop-Walters<alanswo...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 26/07/2010 19:13, George Kerby wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 7/26/10 10:45 AM, in article
>>>>>>>>> 35a0c6b6-4200-4267-a903-32bd1b51b...@j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com,
>>>>>>>>> "RichA"
>>>>>>>>> <rander3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> More uneducated, unemployed looney's to add to "special
>>>>>>>>>> constables"
>>>>>>>>>> who are already such a pain when it comes to photography.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Both of which you know nothing about.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wrong. It knows all about unemployed. If it was employed it
>>>>>>>> couldn't
>>>>>>>> possibly find the time to post all the shite it posts here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Er, you forgot the III after your name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You pathetic clueless ****. I had originally added a sentence to my
>>>>>> post to the effect that you would respond exhibiting some form of
>>>>>> jealousy of a proper British name, as you usually do, but then deleted
>>>>>> it, and placed a bet with myself that you would do it anyway. As I
>>>>>> predicted to myself, you are incapable of a real meaningful response.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is your job by the way? Oh wait, we know, is it queuing up once a
>>>>>> week to collect your unemployable cretins benefit?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By the way, it's only the Americans who add II, III, etc, after their
>>>>>> names. In the UK it's an unknown practice as we have the imagination
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> give our children different first names to their fathers'. But then,
>>>>>> what would YOU know?
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, let's see. There was George I, George II, George III, George
>>>>> IV, George V, and George VI. Just to pick one example. What
>>>>> madness. The Edwards and Henrys went up to VIII.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Not exactly comparable to the G Bushes of this world, and that golfer
>>>> Love,
>>>> for example, whatever his silly name is. They were reigning Kings that
>>>> you quote,
>>>> hardly the same thing.
>>>
>>>
>>> You seem to be among those who can't wait to put everything
>>> American down.
>>> Here is your naming convention for ordinary folk.
>>> http://www.deyoungmatson.com/patrony...onventions.htm
>>>
>>
>> That is an interesting site.
>> It seems my family didn't follow those conventions.
>> I am a first and only son, and I got my Maternal Grandfather's middle
>> name, as a first name, and a Paternal uncle's first name as a middle name.
>> That worked out to be a good thing. If I had my Paternal Grandfather's
>> name I would have been "George Washington" so I dodged being another "GW"
>> by an accident of non-convention.
>>
>
>
>I have a friend , Dominik, from Ireland. When I mentioned he was the first
>Irish Dominik I met, he said it was the custom to name children after the
>saint whose day was closest to the birthday. He figured that had he been
>born a day later. his name would have been Bridget.

It's not an uncommon name for an Irish male if it's spelled "Dominic".
St Dominic (there have been several, but Dominic of Osma is the most
well-known) was born in Spain. The Order of Preachers, known as the
Dominican Order, is well-known to Catholics.

You may know of Dominican College in Orangeburg, NY.

If your friend was born on August 8th, that's Dominic's Feast Day.
August 9th is the Feast Day for Saint Teresia Benedicta of the Cross.
He could have been "Terry". Saint Teresa, by the way, was born
Jewish, became an atheist, and then converted to Christianity when she
was 30. She died in the gas chamber at Auschwitz.

Nuns, like kings and popes, take on names they were not born with.
Saint Teresia was born Edith Stein but took the name of Teresa (her
spelling) Benedicta McCarthy after Teresa's miraculous recovery from
an accidental overdose of paracetamol (aspirin, to us).

St Bridget's day is July 23rd, but just for English Catholics. (There
is a general calendar of feast days, and some countries have their own
calendar.) Dominic does not have a day on the English calendar.

Thanks for bringing up this subject. It reminded me of Dominic Behan
(Brendan Behan's brother) and his songs "The Patriot Game" and
"Liverpool Lou". I'm a collector and fan of Irish music, and I had
to pull out my "The Dubliners" CD and play them. (Not to be confused
with the movie, "The Patriot Games".)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpOOy7voiZI is one cover of "The
Patriot Game".








--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

"tony cooper" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:42:46 -0400, "Peter"
> <> wrote:
>

>>
>>I have a friend , Dominik, from Ireland. When I mentioned he was the first
>>Irish Dominik I met, he said it was the custom to name children after the
>>saint whose day was closest to the birthday. He figured that had he been
>>born a day later. his name would have been Bridget.
>
> It's not an uncommon name for an Irish male if it's spelled "Dominic".
> St Dominic (there have been several, but Dominic of Osma is the most
> well-known) was born in Spain. The Order of Preachers, known as the
> Dominican Order, is well-known to Catholics.
>
> You may know of Dominican College in Orangeburg, NY.
>
> If your friend was born on August 8th, that's Dominic's Feast Day.
> August 9th is the Feast Day for Saint Teresia Benedicta of the Cross.
> He could have been "Terry". Saint Teresa, by the way, was born
> Jewish, became an atheist, and then converted to Christianity when she
> was 30. She died in the gas chamber at Auschwitz.
>
> Nuns, like kings and popes, take on names they were not born with.
> Saint Teresia was born Edith Stein but took the name of Teresa (her
> spelling) Benedicta McCarthy after Teresa's miraculous recovery from
> an accidental overdose of paracetamol (aspirin, to us).
>
> St Bridget's day is July 23rd, but just for English Catholics. (There
> is a general calendar of feast days, and some countries have their own
> calendar.) Dominic does not have a day on the English calendar.
>
> Thanks for bringing up this subject. It reminded me of Dominic Behan
> (Brendan Behan's brother) and his songs "The Patriot Game" and
> "Liverpool Lou". I'm a collector and fan of Irish music, and I had
> to pull out my "The Dubliners" CD and play them. (Not to be confused
> with the movie, "The Patriot Games".)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpOOy7voiZI is one cover of "The
> Patriot Game".
>

I did misspell his name. I should have written "Dominic."
As far as his comment goes, he is the sort of guy who was always playing
jokes and making wisecracks. I never bothered to check the accuracy of that
comment.
Since he is from Northern Ireland and not Catholic, I am confused by your
reference. And yes, although I am fully aware of the Dominicans and fine
work they do in education, I was not aware of the history of St. Teresa.
Thank you for the additional information.


--
Peter
Every factoid increases my understanding of people.

On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:03:00 -0400, "Peter"
<> wrote:

>"tony cooper" <> wrote in message
>news:.. .
>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:42:46 -0400, "Peter"
>> <> wrote:
>>
>
>>>
>>>I have a friend , Dominik, from Ireland. When I mentioned he was the first
>>>Irish Dominik I met, he said it was the custom to name children after the
>>>saint whose day was closest to the birthday. He figured that had he been
>>>born a day later. his name would have been Bridget.
>>
>> It's not an uncommon name for an Irish male if it's spelled "Dominic".
>> St Dominic (there have been several, but Dominic of Osma is the most
>> well-known) was born in Spain. The Order of Preachers, known as the
>> Dominican Order, is well-known to Catholics.
>>
>> You may know of Dominican College in Orangeburg, NY.
>>
>> If your friend was born on August 8th, that's Dominic's Feast Day.
>> August 9th is the Feast Day for Saint Teresia Benedicta of the Cross.
>> He could have been "Terry". Saint Teresa, by the way, was born
>> Jewish, became an atheist, and then converted to Christianity when she
>> was 30. She died in the gas chamber at Auschwitz.
>>
>> Nuns, like kings and popes, take on names they were not born with.
>> Saint Teresia was born Edith Stein but took the name of Teresa (her
>> spelling) Benedicta McCarthy after Teresa's miraculous recovery from
>> an accidental overdose of paracetamol (aspirin, to us).
>>
>> St Bridget's day is July 23rd, but just for English Catholics. (There
>> is a general calendar of feast days, and some countries have their own
>> calendar.) Dominic does not have a day on the English calendar.
>>
>> Thanks for bringing up this subject. It reminded me of Dominic Behan
>> (Brendan Behan's brother) and his songs "The Patriot Game" and
>> "Liverpool Lou". I'm a collector and fan of Irish music, and I had
>> to pull out my "The Dubliners" CD and play them. (Not to be confused
>> with the movie, "The Patriot Games".)
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpOOy7voiZI is one cover of "The
>> Patriot Game".
>>
>
> I did misspell his name. I should have written "Dominic."
>As far as his comment goes, he is the sort of guy who was always playing
>jokes and making wisecracks.

We of Irish descent are like that, so.

>I never bothered to check the accuracy of that
>comment.
>Since he is from Northern Ireland and not Catholic, I am confused by your
>reference. And yes, although I am fully aware of the Dominicans and fine
>work they do in education, I was not aware of the history of St. Teresa.
>Thank you for the additional information.

Naming conventions are family decisions. If there's no family
convention that says to name the person a certain way, the mother
(sometimes the father even gets a say) picks a name that she likes.
In Dominic's case, the name picked follows a convention but the name
picked happened to follow a convention of a different group. It may
be that the name was picked because someone admired had that name.

My mother picked "Anthony" (After either Anthony Eden or Anthony
Adverse; both familiar names in the year I was born) because she was
tired of the usual typical Irish first names in the family. There is
a St Anthony, but that had nothing to do with my mother's decision.
It was merely convenient that I had a saint's name so there was no
need for saint's name as a middle name.

I've never like "Anthony" or "Tony". People want to assume that I'm
of Italian heritage and there isn't an Italian in the tree. Nothing
against the Italians, but I get tired of explaining that I'm not.




--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

"tony cooper" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:03:00 -0400, "Peter"
> <> wrote:
>
>>"tony cooper" <> wrote in message
>>news:. ..
>>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:42:46 -0400, "Peter"
>>> <> wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>I have a friend , Dominik, from Ireland. When I mentioned he was the
>>>>first
>>>>Irish Dominik I met, he said it was the custom to name children after
>>>>the
>>>>saint whose day was closest to the birthday. He figured that had he been
>>>>born a day later. his name would have been Bridget.
>>>
>>> It's not an uncommon name for an Irish male if it's spelled "Dominic".
>>> St Dominic (there have been several, but Dominic of Osma is the most
>>> well-known) was born in Spain. The Order of Preachers, known as the
>>> Dominican Order, is well-known to Catholics.
>>>
>>> You may know of Dominican College in Orangeburg, NY.
>>>
>>> If your friend was born on August 8th, that's Dominic's Feast Day.
>>> August 9th is the Feast Day for Saint Teresia Benedicta of the Cross.
>>> He could have been "Terry". Saint Teresa, by the way, was born
>>> Jewish, became an atheist, and then converted to Christianity when she
>>> was 30. She died in the gas chamber at Auschwitz.
>>>
>>> Nuns, like kings and popes, take on names they were not born with.
>>> Saint Teresia was born Edith Stein but took the name of Teresa (her
>>> spelling) Benedicta McCarthy after Teresa's miraculous recovery from
>>> an accidental overdose of paracetamol (aspirin, to us).
>>>
>>> St Bridget's day is July 23rd, but just for English Catholics. (There
>>> is a general calendar of feast days, and some countries have their own
>>> calendar.) Dominic does not have a day on the English calendar.
>>>
>>> Thanks for bringing up this subject. It reminded me of Dominic Behan
>>> (Brendan Behan's brother) and his songs "The Patriot Game" and
>>> "Liverpool Lou". I'm a collector and fan of Irish music, and I had
>>> to pull out my "The Dubliners" CD and play them. (Not to be confused
>>> with the movie, "The Patriot Games".)
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpOOy7voiZI is one cover of "The
>>> Patriot Game".
>>>
>>
>> I did misspell his name. I should have written "Dominic."
>>As far as his comment goes, he is the sort of guy who was always playing
>>jokes and making wisecracks.
>
> We of Irish descent are like that, so.

That explains a lot of things about your postings.
>
> Naming conventions are family decisions. If there's no family
> convention that says to name the person a certain way, the mother
> (sometimes the father even gets a say) picks a name that she likes.
> In Dominic's case, the name picked follows a convention but the name
> picked happened to follow a convention of a different group. It may
> be that the name was picked because someone admired had that name.
>
> My mother picked "Anthony" (After either Anthony Eden or Anthony
> Adverse; both familiar names in the year I was born) because she was
> tired of the usual typical Irish first names in the family. There is
> a St Anthony, but that had nothing to do with my mother's decision.
> It was merely convenient that I had a saint's name so there was no
> need for saint's name as a middle name.
>
> I've never like "Anthony" or "Tony". People want to assume that I'm
> of Italian heritage and there isn't an Italian in the tree. Nothing
> against the Italians, but I get tired of explaining that I'm not.
>


You could have changed it at any time, if your really wanted to.


--
Peter

On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:40:51 -0400, "Peter"
<> wrote:

>> I've never like "Anthony" or "Tony". People want to assume that I'm
>> of Italian heritage and there isn't an Italian in the tree. Nothing
>> against the Italians, but I get tired of explaining that I'm not.
>>
>
>
>You could have changed it at any time, if your really wanted to.

Theoretically, true. I forget which, but I tried an entire school
year in primary school to be called "Andy". That was the closest
acceptable name to "Anthony" that I could think of. I put "Andy" on
school papers and told people my name was "Andy".

No one paid attention. I don't remember anyone ever calling me
"Andy". I never had a nickname that stuck. I hoped for "Ace" (A.
Cooper), but no one ever used it. I don't think I'd want to be an
"Ace" today, though. That's kind of a used car salesman or pool
hustler name.

Changing a name isn't all that easy. A friend of mine in high school
had a religious/ethnic name and changed it legally, but it caused him
a great deal of problems in getting transcripts and such when he went
to college. I imagine it was a problem when he applied for a
passport when he took a study year abroad in college.

Once a name has been established in records, it's difficult to change.
Women can go from a maiden name to a married name, or from one married
name to a new married name, but it's harder for men. We find it
acceptable for a woman to take on a married name, but a bit strange
when a man changes his first name.

Most successful name changes are nicknames that stuck. I know a
"Buck" and a "Trey", but I don't know their real first names. The
advantage there is that the acceptance is over a period of time.





--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida