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Shenan Stanley
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      07-04-2010
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Jerry wrote:
> One key and I used it to install the 32-bit and 64-bit versions in
> separate partitions - been that way for months and no problems have
> popped up.


Bobby Johnson wrote:
> And if you read your End User License Agreement (EULA) is
> specifically states there can be one, and only one, installation
> with a single key.
> 2. INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS.
> a. One Copy per Computer. You may install one copy of the
> software on one computer. That computer is the “licensed
> computer.”
> b. Licensed Computer. You may use the software on up to two
> processors on the licensed computer at one time. Unless
> otherwise provided in these license terms, you may not use the
> software on any other computer.
> c. Number of Users. Unless otherwise provided in these license
> terms, only one user may use the software at a time.
> d. Alternative Versions. The software may include more than
> one version, such as 32-bit and 64-bit. You may install and use
> only one version at one time.


Jerry wrote:
> Correct - one copy per computer. I have one computer, one hard
> drive, two partitions - therefore I can only use one copy at a time
> as I can only boot into one operating system on one computer at a
> time. That's what the agreement says - in plain English.


That would be true if the EULA stated you could only use/run/operate one
copy at a time. It states you can only *install and use* - so you can, in
accordance with the EULA, have only one copy installed *and* use that one
copy.

If it said "install or use", then you would have an argument. The *and*
means that both cases must be true: *install* and *use*.

As far as any problems showing up just because you have been able to do it -
that's a moot point. I can steal all sorts of things and no problems will
show up if I am 'smart' about it. Doesn't mean I am doing anything
legitimate - just means I have found the loophole - whether or not that
loophole should actually just be a 'proper way to use' is another question -
but that is not one for discussion here in the Windows 64-bit General
newsgroup, IMO.

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Jeff Gaines
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      07-04-2010
On 04/07/2010 in message <#f$(E-Mail Removed)> Bobby
Johnson wrote:

>Most courts don't accept ignorance as a plea of innocence. Especially
>since you must agree to acceptance of the EULA at some point to complete
>the installation.


It will depend on the Law in whatever country the OP is in. This question
has come up many times before and certainly in England, and probably
Europe, the courts tend to treat software rather like a book - if it can
only be read by ne person at a time then that is OK.

Certainly we don't kow-tow to MSFT or any other company, if they apply
restrictions that the courts feel to be unreasonable or unfair they will
not be upheld by the court. I don't get the impression that American law
takes the same pragmatic approach.

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Lorne
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      07-06-2010

"Bobby Johnson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:#f$(E-Mail Removed)...
> It's too bad you don't comprehend the English language better.
> (a.) States "...one copy on one computer."
>
> If you have two partitions, one with 32-bit and one with 64-bit, that is
> TWO (2)! One plus One equals Two
>
> A direct violation of the EULA.
>
> (d.) States "you may install and use only one version at one time."
>
> If you install 32-bit and 64-bit that is TWO (2) installs!
>
> A direct violation of the EULA
>
> Nowhere does it mention "...boot into one operating system on one computer
> at a time."
>
> Most courts don't accept ignorance as a plea of innocence. Especially
> since you must agree to acceptance of the EULA at some point to complete
> the installation.
>


Most courts will not rule this way because there is also an overriding
unfair contract terms law that allows courts to refuse companies the right
to impose unreasonable restrictions whatever their conditions say. Here it
is impossible to use both systems at the same time (as long as they are on
one computer) so in most countries Microsoft would lose if they tried to
prosecute a home user with this setup. They courts will just say that
common sense interprets their EULA to mean one user can use either operating
system and if the user has both installed in a way that only one can be used
at any time that is OK. I am basing this on experience in Europe - the USA
may be different.

 
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