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In message <4c24c152$0$31381$>, superpollo
wrote:

> suppose i work in a linux environment, but i would like to ship a
> win/dos executable file from time to time, just for test purposes (my
> "testers" are windows users and don't want to go through the hassle of
> installing python on their win boxes).

Is it really such a hassle to install things on Windows?

On 2010-06-28, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <_zealand> wrote:
> In message <4c24c152$0$31381$>, superpollo
> wrote:
>
>> suppose i work in a linux environment, but i would like to ship a
>> win/dos executable file from time to time, just for test purposes (my
>> "testers" are windows users and don't want to go through the hassle of
>> installing python on their win boxes).
>
> Is it really such a hassle to install things on Windows?

Sometimes. But, no matter how easy it is, if you rely on your
customers to install some third party SW that's required for your
program to work, they'll figure out a way to screw it up.

If you're shipping a Windows program, you can barely count on the
target machine having a working base Windows install. Expecting
something else to be there is pure fantasy.

--
Grant

On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<_zealand> wrote:
> In message <4c24c152$0$31381$>, superpollo
> wrote:
>
>> suppose i work in a linux environment, but i would like to ship a
>> win/dos executable file from time to time, just for test purposes (my
>> "testers" are windows users and don't want to go through the hassle of
>> installing python on their win boxes).
>
> Is it really such a hassle to install things on Windows?
I find it somewhat easier than on Ubuntu, but I think you've missed the point.

In message <4c286d71$0$18654$>, superpollo
wrote:

> Lawrence D'Oliveiro ha scritto:
>>
>> Is it really such a hassle to install things on Windows?
>
> no, but it *IS* to explain it to dumb users...

Can’t you create an installation package that specifies Python and all the
other necessary dependencies, so the Windows package-management system will
automatically pull the right versions in when the user does the
installation?

On 6/29/10 12:27 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message<4c286d71$0$18654$ .it>, superpollo
> wrote:
>
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro ha scritto:
>>>
>>> Is it really such a hassle to install things on Windows?
>>
>> no, but it *IS* to explain it to dumb users...
>
> Can’t you create an installation package that specifies Python and all the
> other necessary dependencies, so the Windows package-management system will
> automatically pull the right versions in when the user does the
> installation?

At first, on reading this, I assumed it was sarcastic (and sort of
decided not to reply, because anti-windows is too easy); but on reading
again I'm not so sure, you're writing it all out so .. dry. Then again,
'hearing' tone in text is hard.

If this isn't sarcastic: windows has no package management system. You
include every dependency manually (in varying forms) or things don't run.

Windows has a way to track what you install, and the ability to
uninstall about three fourths of it later. That's it.

--

... Stephen Hansen
... Also: Ixokai
... Mail: me+list/python (AT) ixokai (DOT) io
... Blog: http://meh.ixokai.io/

"Stephen Hansen" <me+list/> wrote in message
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> On 6/29/10 12:27 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>> In message<4c286d71$0$18654$ .it>, superpollo
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>> Is it really such a hassle to install things on Windows?
>>>
>>> no, but it *IS* to explain it to dumb users...
>>
>> Can't you create an installation package that specifies Python and all
>> the
>> other necessary dependencies, so the Windows package-management system
>> will
>> automatically pull the right versions in when the user does the
>> installation?
>
> At first, on reading this, I assumed it was sarcastic (and sort of decided
> not to reply, because anti-windows is too easy); but on reading again I'm
> not so sure, you're writing it all out so .. dry. Then again, 'hearing'
> tone in text is hard.
>
> If this isn't sarcastic: windows has no package management system. You
> include every dependency manually (in varying forms) or things don't run.
>
> Windows has a way to track what you install, and the ability to uninstall
> about three fourths of it later. That's it.
>
> --
>
> ... Stephen Hansen
> ... Also: Ixokai
> ... Mail: me+list/python (AT) ixokai (DOT) io
> ... Blog: http://meh.ixokai.io/
>


Not that I am a supporter of Windows nor an expert at MSI BUT later versions
of Visual Studio do have a mechanism for building a package. I know it's
not in VC6, but is in VS.2008.
HTH,
Bill