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Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell
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      06-27-2010
.... need Administrator rights, when both profiles that I have on my laptop
are both set as Administrator?

Is precisely because I have two administrator profiles and the computer is
"confused"?

Any ideas, anyone? Thanks!

C.

 
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Charlie Russel - MVP
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      06-27-2010
Windows 7 (and Vista before it) runs even administrative users as a more
limited user most of the time, and only elevates to administrative rights
when you actually _need_ it to do something, and only when you authorize it.
This is by design, and is intended to protect you and your computer from at
least some of the possible malware out there. It is possible to turn this
off, but I strongly recommend NOT doing so. Over time you'll find that you
rarely get prompted for elevation in the normal course of using the
computer. But during the early days of using it, you will get prompted much
more often, as you're installing applications, configuring settings, etc.

Some older applications that are poorly designed will not start without
getting administrative rights. That's just bad design, and I would urge you
to find newer or alternative versions that don't require that elevation.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel




"Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell" <> wrote in message
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> ... need Administrator rights, when both profiles that I have on my laptop
> are both set as Administrator?
>
> Is precisely because I have two administrator profiles and the computer is
> "confused"?
>
> Any ideas, anyone? Thanks!
>
> C.


 
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Corsair
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      06-27-2010
Hi Charlie,

following with the thread, I want not to be asked for "some" applications to
be auto-run, e.g. CCleaner,
I have this software (latest version) as started in the start-up, but every
time computer starts I'm asked
about running or not.

How could be done for not being asked for "some" programs, running under
account with Administrator
privileges.

Corsair

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <> escribió en el
mensaje de noticias:8D8C80B3-741A-44E1-9178-...
> Windows 7 (and Vista before it) runs even administrative users as a more
> limited user most of the time, and only elevates to administrative rights
> when you actually _need_ it to do something, and only when you authorize
> it. This is by design, and is intended to protect you and your computer
> from at least some of the possible malware out there. It is possible to
> turn this off, but I strongly recommend NOT doing so. Over time you'll
> find that you rarely get prompted for elevation in the normal course of
> using the computer. But during the early days of using it, you will get
> prompted much more often, as you're installing applications, configuring
> settings, etc.
>
> Some older applications that are poorly designed will not start without
> getting administrative rights. That's just bad design, and I would urge
> you to find newer or alternative versions that don't require that
> elevation.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel
>
>
>
>
> "Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell" <> wrote in message
> news:11465DE6-6831-4A1D-9C3F-...
>> ... need Administrator rights, when both profiles that I have on my
>> laptop are both set as Administrator?
>>
>> Is precisely because I have two administrator profiles and the computer
>> is "confused"?
>>
>> Any ideas, anyone? Thanks!
>>
>> C.

>

 
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Charlie Russel - MVP
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      06-27-2010
Some programs will always demand administrator privileges and should not be
put in your startup folder for just that reason. Sounds like this is one.

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http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel




"Corsair" <> wrote in message
news:B6DC40E8-1EFF-4A70-AB60-...
> Hi Charlie,
>
> following with the thread, I want not to be asked for "some" applications
> to be auto-run, e.g. CCleaner,
> I have this software (latest version) as started in the start-up, but
> every time computer starts I'm asked
> about running or not.
>
> How could be done for not being asked for "some" programs, running under
> account with Administrator
> privileges.
>
> Corsair
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> escribió en el
> mensaje de noticias:8D8C80B3-741A-44E1-9178-...
>> Windows 7 (and Vista before it) runs even administrative users as a more
>> limited user most of the time, and only elevates to administrative rights
>> when you actually _need_ it to do something, and only when you authorize
>> it. This is by design, and is intended to protect you and your computer
>> from at least some of the possible malware out there. It is possible to
>> turn this off, but I strongly recommend NOT doing so. Over time you'll
>> find that you rarely get prompted for elevation in the normal course of
>> using the computer. But during the early days of using it, you will get
>> prompted much more often, as you're installing applications, configuring
>> settings, etc.
>>
>> Some older applications that are poorly designed will not start without
>> getting administrative rights. That's just bad design, and I would urge
>> you to find newer or alternative versions that don't require that
>> elevation.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell" <> wrote in message
>> news:11465DE6-6831-4A1D-9C3F-...
>>> ... need Administrator rights, when both profiles that I have on my
>>> laptop are both set as Administrator?
>>>
>>> Is precisely because I have two administrator profiles and the computer
>>> is "confused"?
>>>
>>> Any ideas, anyone? Thanks!
>>>
>>> C.

>>


 
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R. C. White
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      06-28-2010
Hi, Corsair.

I’m not familiar with CCleaner – or any “cleaner” application. But with many apps, you can right-click on the .exe and choose Properties. On the Compatibility tab you should find a checkbox to “Run this program as an administrator”. I’m not sure that this setting exists or actually works for ALL apps, but maybe it does for the one you need it for.

RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2010 (15.3.2804.0607) in Win7 Ultimate x64)

"Corsair" wrote in message news:B6DC40E8-1EFF-4A70-AB60-...

Hi Charlie,

following with the thread, I want not to be asked for "some" applications to
be auto-run, e.g. CCleaner,
I have this software (latest version) as started in the start-up, but every
time computer starts I'm asked
about running or not.

How could be done for not being asked for "some" programs, running under
account with Administrator
privileges.

Corsair

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <> escribiĂł en el
mensaje de noticias:8D8C80B3-741A-44E1-9178-...
> Windows 7 (and Vista before it) runs even administrative users as a more
> limited user most of the time, and only elevates to administrative rights
> when you actually _need_ it to do something, and only when you authorize
> it. This is by design, and is intended to protect you and your computer
> from at least some of the possible malware out there. It is possible to
> turn this off, but I strongly recommend NOT doing so. Over time you'll
> find that you rarely get prompted for elevation in the normal course of
> using the computer. But during the early days of using it, you will get
> prompted much more often, as you're installing applications, configuring
> settings, etc.
>
> Some older applications that are poorly designed will not start without
> getting administrative rights. That's just bad design, and I would urge
> you to find newer or alternative versions that don't require that
> elevation.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel
>
>
> "Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell" <> wrote in message
> news:11465DE6-6831-4A1D-9C3F-...
>> ... need Administrator rights, when both profiles that I have on my
>> laptop are both set as Administrator?
>>
>> Is precisely because I have two administrator profiles and the computer
>> is "confused"?
>>
>> Any ideas, anyone? Thanks!
>>
>> C

 
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Charlie Russel - MVP
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      06-28-2010
Even when it does, I think you still get prompted for rights elevation.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel




"R. C. White" <> wrote in message
news:...
Hi, Corsair.

I’m not familiar with CCleaner – or any “cleaner” application. But with
many apps, you can right-click on the .exe and choose Properties. On the
Compatibility tab you should find a checkbox to “Run this program as an
administrator”. I’m not sure that this setting exists or actually works for
ALL apps, but maybe it does for the one you need it for.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2010 (15.3.2804.0607) in Win7 Ultimate x64)

"Corsair" wrote in message
news:B6DC40E8-1EFF-4A70-AB60-...

Hi Charlie,

following with the thread, I want not to be asked for "some" applications to
be auto-run, e.g. CCleaner,
I have this software (latest version) as started in the start-up, but every
time computer starts I'm asked
about running or not.

How could be done for not being asked for "some" programs, running under
account with Administrator
privileges.

Corsair

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <> escribiĂł en el
mensaje de noticias:8D8C80B3-741A-44E1-9178-...
> Windows 7 (and Vista before it) runs even administrative users as a more
> limited user most of the time, and only elevates to administrative rights
> when you actually _need_ it to do something, and only when you authorize
> it. This is by design, and is intended to protect you and your computer
> from at least some of the possible malware out there. It is possible to
> turn this off, but I strongly recommend NOT doing so. Over time you'll
> find that you rarely get prompted for elevation in the normal course of
> using the computer. But during the early days of using it, you will get
> prompted much more often, as you're installing applications, configuring
> settings, etc.
>
> Some older applications that are poorly designed will not start without
> getting administrative rights. That's just bad design, and I would urge
> you to find newer or alternative versions that don't require that
> elevation.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel
>
>
> "Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell" <> wrote in message
> news:11465DE6-6831-4A1D-9C3F-...
>> ... need Administrator rights, when both profiles that I have on my
>> laptop are both set as Administrator?
>>
>> Is precisely because I have two administrator profiles and the computer
>> is "confused"?
>>
>> Any ideas, anyone? Thanks!
>>
>> C


 
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Corsair
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      06-28-2010
I've tried this, but other way is that I have no room to do it,
as is not listed in the Start up folder, it goes straight to the
registry and could not say that run as administrator, but done
with the normal program and every time is started user always
prompted for privileges.

Corsair

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <> escribiĂł en el
mensaje de noticias:09BC54BF-C642-42C2-818B-...
> Even when it does, I think you still get prompted for rights elevation.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel
>
>
>
>
> "R. C. White" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> Hi, Corsair.
>
> I’m not familiar with CCleaner – or any “cleaner” application. But with
> many apps, you can right-click on the .exe and choose Properties. On the
> Compatibility tab you should find a checkbox to “Run this program as an
> administrator”. I’m not sure that this setting exists or actually works
> for ALL apps, but maybe it does for the one you need it for.
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
>
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> Windows Live Mail 2010 (15.3.2804.0607) in Win7 Ultimate x64)
>
> "Corsair" wrote in message
> news:B6DC40E8-1EFF-4A70-AB60-...
>
> Hi Charlie,
>
> following with the thread, I want not to be asked for "some" applications
> to
> be auto-run, e.g. CCleaner,
> I have this software (latest version) as started in the start-up, but
> every
> time computer starts I'm asked
> about running or not.
>
> How could be done for not being asked for "some" programs, running under
> account with Administrator
> privileges.
>
> Corsair
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> escribiĂł en el
> mensaje de noticias:8D8C80B3-741A-44E1-9178-...
>> Windows 7 (and Vista before it) runs even administrative users as a more
>> limited user most of the time, and only elevates to administrative rights
>> when you actually _need_ it to do something, and only when you authorize
>> it. This is by design, and is intended to protect you and your computer
>> from at least some of the possible malware out there. It is possible to
>> turn this off, but I strongly recommend NOT doing so. Over time you'll
>> find that you rarely get prompted for elevation in the normal course of
>> using the computer. But during the early days of using it, you will get
>> prompted much more often, as you're installing applications, configuring
>> settings, etc.
>>
>> Some older applications that are poorly designed will not start without
>> getting administrative rights. That's just bad design, and I would urge
>> you to find newer or alternative versions that don't require that
>> elevation.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel
>>
>>
>> "Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell" <> wrote in message
>> news:11465DE6-6831-4A1D-9C3F-...
>>> ... need Administrator rights, when both profiles that I have on my
>>> laptop are both set as Administrator?
>>>
>>> Is precisely because I have two administrator profiles and the computer
>>> is "confused"?
>>>
>>> Any ideas, anyone? Thanks!
>>>
>>> C

>

 
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Charlie Russel - MVP
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      06-28-2010
Why not just uninstall CCleaner? It provides no useful service, and clearly
isn't well behaved. Personally, I avoid programs that claim to do what
CCleaner claims to do like the plague. The LAST thinkg I want is an
application that "cleans" my system, automatically. Windows doesn't need
cleaning, thank you, and if it I want to remove something, I want to know
exactly what is being removed. And why. And how.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel




"Corsair" <> wrote in message
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> I've tried this, but other way is that I have no room to do it,
> as is not listed in the Start up folder, it goes straight to the
> registry and could not say that run as administrator, but done
> with the normal program and every time is started user always
> prompted for privileges.
>
> Corsair
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> escribiĂł en el
> mensaje de noticias:09BC54BF-C642-42C2-818B-...
>> Even when it does, I think you still get prompted for rights elevation.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "R. C. White" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>> Hi, Corsair.
>>
>> I’m not familiar with CCleaner – or any “cleaner” application. But with
>> many apps, you can right-click on the .exe and choose Properties. On the
>> Compatibility tab you should find a checkbox to “Run this program as an
>> administrator”. I’m not sure that this setting exists or actually works
>> for ALL apps, but maybe it does for the one you need it for.
>>
>> RC
>> --
>> R. C. White, CPA
>> San Marcos, TX
>>
>> Microsoft Windows MVP
>> Windows Live Mail 2010 (15.3.2804.0607) in Win7 Ultimate x64)
>>
>> "Corsair" wrote in message
>> news:B6DC40E8-1EFF-4A70-AB60-...
>>
>> Hi Charlie,
>>
>> following with the thread, I want not to be asked for "some" applications
>> to
>> be auto-run, e.g. CCleaner,
>> I have this software (latest version) as started in the start-up, but
>> every
>> time computer starts I'm asked
>> about running or not.
>>
>> How could be done for not being asked for "some" programs, running under
>> account with Administrator
>> privileges.
>>
>> Corsair
>>
>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> escribiĂł en el
>> mensaje de noticias:8D8C80B3-741A-44E1-9178-...
>>> Windows 7 (and Vista before it) runs even administrative users as a more
>>> limited user most of the time, and only elevates to administrative
>>> rights
>>> when you actually _need_ it to do something, and only when you authorize
>>> it. This is by design, and is intended to protect you and your computer
>>> from at least some of the possible malware out there. It is possible to
>>> turn this off, but I strongly recommend NOT doing so. Over time you'll
>>> find that you rarely get prompted for elevation in the normal course of
>>> using the computer. But during the early days of using it, you will get
>>> prompted much more often, as you're installing applications, configuring
>>> settings, etc.
>>>
>>> Some older applications that are poorly designed will not start without
>>> getting administrative rights. That's just bad design, and I would urge
>>> you to find newer or alternative versions that don't require that
>>> elevation.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Charlie.
>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel
>>>
>>>
>>> "Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell" <> wrote in message
>>> news:11465DE6-6831-4A1D-9C3F-...
>>>> ... need Administrator rights, when both profiles that I have on my
>>>> laptop are both set as Administrator?
>>>>
>>>> Is precisely because I have two administrator profiles and the computer
>>>> is "confused"?
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas, anyone? Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> C

>>


 
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Jeff Gaines
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      06-28-2010
On 28/06/2010 in message
<51DFBF23-78F0-4EBC-819B-> Charlie Russel - MVP
wrote:

>Why not just uninstall CCleaner? It provides no useful service, and
>clearly isn't well behaved. Personally, I avoid programs that claim to do
>what CCleaner claims to do like the plague. The LAST thinkg I want is an
>application that "cleans" my system, automatically. Windows doesn't need
>cleaning, thank you, and if it I want to remove something, I want to know
>exactly what is being removed. And why. And how.


It is the best temp file remover and registry cleaner around by a million
miles. It is excellent at removing redundant registry entries that
un-installers leave behind, MSFT seem particularly bad at not cleaning up
after an un-install.

It runs fine on x32 and x64 Windows, the issue with Win 7 is UAC, it needs
to be turned off to enable the user to get control of his/her OS back.

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who don't.
 
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Bobby Johnson
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      06-28-2010
CCleaner also removes some files you don't want removed. I tried it on
my computer and it removed some files that really messed up a few programs.

I'm with Charlie on this one - stay away from it!


On 2010-06-28 10:08, Jeff Gaines wrote:
> On 28/06/2010 in message
> <51DFBF23-78F0-4EBC-819B-> Charlie Russel -
> MVP wrote:
>
>> Why not just uninstall CCleaner? It provides no useful service, and
>> clearly isn't well behaved. Personally, I avoid programs that claim to
>> do what CCleaner claims to do like the plague. The LAST thinkg I want
>> is an application that "cleans" my system, automatically. Windows
>> doesn't need cleaning, thank you, and if it I want to remove
>> something, I want to know exactly what is being removed. And why. And
>> how.

>
> It is the best temp file remover and registry cleaner around by a
> million miles. It is excellent at removing redundant registry entries
> that un-installers leave behind, MSFT seem particularly bad at not
> cleaning up after an un-install.
>
> It runs fine on x32 and x64 Windows, the issue with Win 7 is UAC, it
> needs to be turned off to enable the user to get control of his/her OS
> back.
>

 
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