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Peter
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      06-29-2010
"Jane Galt" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Robert Coe <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote :
>
>
>>:
>>: What would it have to do with demographics?
>>
>> Most people on Usenet are a good bit younger than I am.
>>
>>: Are you, or not?
>>
>> I have been a registered Republican since 1958.
>>
>>: And who cares? "Republicrat" is a meaningless term because it's not
>>: objectively defined. You could be a conservative or a leninist and
>>: still be under the "big tent" of that undefined party.
>>
>> I'm a Barry Goldwater Republican. (You've heard of him?) Which means I'm
>> to the left of virtually everybody in the party today.

>
> Of course, my grandma voted for him. But he was true libertarian leaning,
> not
> socialist leaning.
>
>
> "Remember that a government big enough to give you everything you want is
> also big enough to take away everything you have." -Barry Goldwater
>
>
> This Cicero quote was what lost him the election, wasnt it?:
>
> "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice; moderation in the pursuit
> of
> justice is no virtue." - Marcus Tullius Cicero
>



Wrong again. It was the A bomb TV ad that did him in. A technique quickly
stolen by the right wing nuts.

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      06-30-2010
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:17:23 -0400, tony cooper <(E-Mail Removed)>
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: On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:06:35 -0400, Robert Coe <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
:
: >I have been a registered Republican since 1958.
:
: I'm just a newcomer to politics, then, I registered as a Republican in
: May, 1959. For several years I even voted Republican.
:
: I am still a registered Republican, but it's been years since I've
: voted for a Republican for national or state office. (I sometimes
: vote for a Republican for local office)
:
: I remain registered as a Republican to be a "spoiler" in the
: Republican primary. I believe that the biggest danger to this country
: is the Christian Conservative, so I vote for the opponent of anyone
: who is endorsed by the Christian Coalition.
:
: Remaining a registered Republican is also a bit fun at times. I get
: telephone calls near the elections from campaign workers for
: Republican candidates. They start out assuming, because I'm a
: registered Republican, that I'm on their side. The conversation goes
: downhill - for them - very quickly.

Your experience, attitude, and motivation parallel mine exactly. Except for
one thing: All the calls I get from the party are robo-calls; I can't answer
them back! :^|

Bob
 
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tony cooper
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      06-30-2010
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 20:48:20 -0400, Robert Coe <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:17:23 -0400, tony cooper <(E-Mail Removed)>
>wrote:
>: On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:06:35 -0400, Robert Coe <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>:
>: >I have been a registered Republican since 1958.
>:
>: I'm just a newcomer to politics, then, I registered as a Republican in
>: May, 1959. For several years I even voted Republican.
>:
>: I am still a registered Republican, but it's been years since I've
>: voted for a Republican for national or state office. (I sometimes
>: vote for a Republican for local office)
>:
>: I remain registered as a Republican to be a "spoiler" in the
>: Republican primary. I believe that the biggest danger to this country
>: is the Christian Conservative, so I vote for the opponent of anyone
>: who is endorsed by the Christian Coalition.
>:
>: Remaining a registered Republican is also a bit fun at times. I get
>: telephone calls near the elections from campaign workers for
>: Republican candidates. They start out assuming, because I'm a
>: registered Republican, that I'm on their side. The conversation goes
>: downhill - for them - very quickly.
>
>Your experience, attitude, and motivation parallel mine exactly. Except for
>one thing: All the calls I get from the party are robo-calls; I can't answer
>them back! :^|


I get the robo-calls from the national candidates and their
supporters. During the presidential election I picked up the phone to
hear "Hello. This is Dick Cheney." I briefly considered having the
handset exorcised, but settled for waving a chicken bone over it that
had been buried at midnight and dug back up seven days later while
reciting the Lord's Prayer backwards.

Campaign workers for local candidates make actual calls, though. The
candidates sometimes door-knock in the neighborhood. Mostly
Republicans, for that's what sort of neighborhood this is.




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Robert Coe
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      06-30-2010
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:53:49 -0500, Jane Galt <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
: Robert Coe <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote :
:
:
: >:
: >: What would it have to do with demographics?
: >
: > Most people on Usenet are a good bit younger than I am.
: >
: >: Are you, or not?
: >
: > I have been a registered Republican since 1958.
: >
: >: And who cares? "Republicrat" is a meaningless term because it's not
: >: objectively defined. You could be a conservative or a leninist and
: >: still be under the "big tent" of that undefined party.
: >
: > I'm a Barry Goldwater Republican. (You've heard of him?) Which means I'm
: > to the left of virtually everybody in the party today.
:
: Of course, my grandma voted for him. But he was true libertarian leaning, not
: socialist leaning.
:
:
: "Remember that a government big enough to give you everything you want is
: also big enough to take away everything you have. -Barry Goldwater
:
:
: This Cicero quote was what lost him the election, wasnt it?:
:
: "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice; moderation in the pursuit of
: justice is no virtue." - Marcus Tullius Cicero
:
: What an "extremist" think to say! And he liked the Constitution! Horrors!

On gays in the military:

"What difference does It make [whether a soldier is straight]? What matters is
whethre he can shoot straight."
- Barry M. Goldwater

To Richard Milhous Nixon (leading the delegation of right-thinking Republicans
assigned to deliver the news that the Watergate jig is up):

"I can count only five votes [in the Senate impeachment trial] in your favor.
And by the way, I'm not one of them."
- Barry G.

Bob
 
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      06-30-2010
"Robert Coe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:53:49 -0500, Jane Galt <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> : Robert Coe <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote :
> :
> :
> : >:
> : >: What would it have to do with demographics?
> : >
> : > Most people on Usenet are a good bit younger than I am.
> : >
> : >: Are you, or not?
> : >
> : > I have been a registered Republican since 1958.
> : >
> : >: And who cares? "Republicrat" is a meaningless term because it's not
> : >: objectively defined. You could be a conservative or a leninist and
> : >: still be under the "big tent" of that undefined party.
> : >
> : > I'm a Barry Goldwater Republican. (You've heard of him?) Which means
> I'm
> : > to the left of virtually everybody in the party today.
> :
> : Of course, my grandma voted for him. But he was true libertarian
> leaning, not
> : socialist leaning.
> :
> :
> : "Remember that a government big enough to give you everything you want
> is
> : also big enough to take away everything you have." -Barry Goldwater
> :
> :
> : This Cicero quote was what lost him the election, wasnt it?:
> :
> : "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice; moderation in the
> pursuit of
> : justice is no virtue." - Marcus Tullius Cicero
> :
> : What an "extremist" think to say! And he liked the Constitution!
> Horrors!
>
> On gays in the military:
>
> "What difference does It make [whether a soldier is straight]? What
> matters is
> whethre he can shoot straight."
> - Barry M. Goldwater
>
> To Richard Milhous Nixon (leading the delegation of right-thinking
> Republicans
> assigned to deliver the news that the Watergate jig is up):
>
> "I can count only five votes [in the Senate impeachment trial] in your
> favor.
> And by the way, I'm not one of them."
> - Barry G.



Barry Goldwater was a man of integrity and conviction. He was well
respected, even by those who disagreed with his philosophy.
Originally I thought McCain would be like him. I was quickly disabused of
that thought.

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tony cooper
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      06-30-2010
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 18:34:39 -0700, Savageduck
<savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

>On 2010-06-29 18:06:48 -0700, tony cooper <(E-Mail Removed)> said:
>
>> On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 20:48:20 -0400, Robert Coe <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:17:23 -0400, tony cooper <(E-Mail Removed)>
>>> wrote:
>>> : On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:06:35 -0400, Robert Coe <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>> :
>>> : >I have been a registered Republican since 1958.
>>> :
>>> : I'm just a newcomer to politics, then, I registered as a Republican in
>>> : May, 1959. For several years I even voted Republican.
>>> :
>>> : I am still a registered Republican, but it's been years since I've
>>> : voted for a Republican for national or state office. (I sometimes
>>> : vote for a Republican for local office)
>>> :
>>> : I remain registered as a Republican to be a "spoiler" in the
>>> : Republican primary. I believe that the biggest danger to this country
>>> : is the Christian Conservative, so I vote for the opponent of anyone
>>> : who is endorsed by the Christian Coalition.
>>> :
>>> : Remaining a registered Republican is also a bit fun at times. I get
>>> : telephone calls near the elections from campaign workers for
>>> : Republican candidates. They start out assuming, because I'm a
>>> : registered Republican, that I'm on their side. The conversation goes
>>> : downhill - for them - very quickly.
>>>
>>> Your experience, attitude, and motivation parallel mine exactly. Except for
>>> one thing: All the calls I get from the party are robo-calls; I can't answer
>>> them back! :^|

>>
>> I get the robo-calls from the national candidates and their
>> supporters. During the presidential election I picked up the phone to
>> hear "Hello. This is Dick Cheney." I briefly considered having the
>> handset exorcised, but settled for waving a chicken bone over it that
>> had been buried at midnight and dug back up seven days later while
>> reciting the Lord's Prayer backwards.
>>
>> Campaign workers for local candidates make actual calls, though. The
>> candidates sometimes door-knock in the neighborhood. Mostly
>> Republicans, for that's what sort of neighborhood this is.

>
>I am getting the robo-calls from the Meg Whitman campaign now.


We have a gubernatorial race coming up, but the slates aren't fixed.
The calls haven't started but my (postal) mailbox has been full.

Our present Governor, Charlie Crist, bolted the Republican party and
will be running as an Independent. I don't know if he managed to get
hold of the registered Republican mailing lists, but I haven't
received any mailings from him.

So far, the majority of the mailings have been from the "527" groups.
These are groups that attack a candidate, but are (supposedly) not
connected with the opposition candidate. Under current law, the "527"
groups don't have to reveal who is financing them. The mailings are
from front organizations like "Alliance for America's Future". Dirty
politics at its worst.

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