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On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 09:07:42 -0800 (PST), sobriquet <>
wrote:

>On 26 jan, 17:10, "Peter" <peter...@nospamoptonline.net> wrote:
>> "sobriquet" <dohduh...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:fb433621-705c-4ed6-8740-...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 26 jan, 01:57, "Save $3.99" <d...@null.null> wrote:
>> >> So he's announcing that he may have some of our copyrighted images on his
>> >> torrent.
>>
>> > My torrent is your torrent.
>> > Sharing is caring.
>>
>> > The intellectual property mafia owns your mind and soon you will have
>> > to pay them for using your brain, because *you* are basically their
>> > 'intellectual property', so they can do with you whatever they like
>> > and just like they can dictate how you are allowed to use your
>> > computer or your internet connection, there is no reason why they
>> > shouldn't be allowed to dictate how you can use your brain! They own
>> > the government as well as the media and hence they completely control
>> > your mind.
>>
>> > You will obey me while I lead you
>> > And eat the garbage that I feed you
>> > Until the day that we don't need you
>> > Don't got for help...no one will heed you
>> > Your mind is totally controlled
>> > It has been stuffed into my mold
>> > And you will do as you are told
>> > Until the rights to you are sold
>>
>> Another thieving troll who has no regard for the hard work of others.
>>
>> --
>> Peter
>
>It's the intellectual property mafia that has no respect whatsoever
>for human rights (like the freedom to share and exchange information).
>
>Independent thought: Available at a central nervous system near you!
>
>People who think bitstrings can be owned, bought or sold have their
>head stuck up their arse so deep, that they have lost all contact with
>reality.
>
>0001010110101110100000110101101010101101111000111 00110011000001011010110010101010011

Exactly so.

A whole generation growing up, believing they give away their personal
rights to freedom with nothing more than the click of a mouse every day.
What fools they and their parents be.

On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:21:57 -0500, "Peter" <>
wrote:

>"sobriquet" <> wrote in message
>news:6f8b4cdc-63f7-47ab-9ce9-...
>> On 26 jan, 18:12, "Peter" <peter...@nospamoptonline.net> wrote:
>>> "sobriquet" <dohduh...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:9af77366-3c61-48a4-8dbf-...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > On 26 jan, 17:10, "Peter" <peter...@nospamoptonline.net> wrote:
>>> >> "sobriquet" <dohduh...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> >>news:fb433621-705c-4ed6-8740-...
>>>
>>> >> > On 26 jan, 01:57, "Save $3.99" <d...@null.null> wrote:
>>> >> >> So he's announcing that he may have some of our copyrighted images
>>> >> >> on
>>> >> >> his
>>> >> >> torrent.
>>>
>>> >> > My torrent is your torrent.
>>> >> > Sharing is caring.
>>>
>>> >> > The intellectual property mafia owns your mind and soon you will
>>> >> > have
>>> >> > to pay them for using your brain, because *you* are basically their
>>> >> > 'intellectual property', so they can do with you whatever they like
>>> >> > and just like they can dictate how you are allowed to use your
>>> >> > computer or your internet connection, there is no reason why they
>>> >> > shouldn't be allowed to dictate how you can use your brain! They own
>>> >> > the government as well as the media and hence they completely
>>> >> > control
>>> >> > your mind.
>>>
>>> >> > You will obey me while I lead you
>>> >> > And eat the garbage that I feed you
>>> >> > Until the day that we don't need you
>>> >> > Don't got for help...no one will heed you
>>> >> > Your mind is totally controlled
>>> >> > It has been stuffed into my mold
>>> >> > And you will do as you are told
>>> >> > Until the rights to you are sold
>>>
>>> >> Another thieving troll who has no regard for the hard work of others.
>>>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Peter
>>>
>>> > It's the intellectual property mafia that has no respect whatsoever
>>> > for human rights (like the freedom to share and exchange information).
>>>
>>> > Independent thought: Available at a central nervous system near you!
>>>
>>> > People who think bitstrings can be owned, bought or sold have their
>>> > head stuck up their arse so deep, that they have lost all contact with
>>> > reality.
>>>
>>> If I want to share my IP it's my decision, not yours. But a thief
>>> can't/won't agree.
>>
>>
>> And what exactly is your IP?
>> Can you leave your computer on overnight to generate random bitstrings
>> which can all be added to your collection of items in your
>> intellectual property inventory?
>>
>> Who keeps track of ownership of bitstrings? Where can I find out who
>> owns the following bitstring?
>>
>
>
>That BS double talk does not mean you are free to use my creation without my
>approval. Especially my photographs.

Then don't post any image to the net that can be used for anyone's
financial or personal gain. It's that amazingly simple. But then, you have
to have a mind less simple than that to comprehend this.

"Die Wahrheit" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:21:57 -0500, "Peter" <>
> wrote:
>

>>That BS double talk does not mean you are free to use my creation without
>>my
>>approval. Especially my photographs.
>
> Then don't post any image to the net that can be used for anyone's
> financial or personal gain. It's that amazingly simple. But then, you have
> to have a mind less simple than that to comprehend this.
>


Right. I must not trust anybody. Since I am simple minded I have to ask if I
cannot let you look at any of my work, lest you steal it.
Tells all of us about your character, or lack thereof.

Also, makes us wonder if you know what it means to work.
--
Peter

Die Wahrheit wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:21:57 -0500, "Peter" wrote:
>>That BS double talk does not mean you are free to use my creation without
>>my
>>approval. Especially my photographs.
>
> Then don't post any image to the net that can be used for anyone's
> financial or personal gain. It's that amazingly simple. But then, you have
> to have a mind less simple than that to comprehend this.

You can make finacial gain from someone's copyrighted work, just as you can
gain from stealing anything. More likely you will end up with severe
financial and personal losses.

Try starting with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright, fully research the
laws that apply to your intended market(s), and check the current terms and
conditions of your ISP.

Pete

On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:07:01 -0000, "Pete"
<> wrote:

>Die Wahrheit wrote:
>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:21:57 -0500, "Peter" wrote:
>>>That BS double talk does not mean you are free to use my creation without
>>>my
>>>approval. Especially my photographs.
>>
>> Then don't post any image to the net that can be used for anyone's
>> financial or personal gain. It's that amazingly simple. But then, you have
>> to have a mind less simple than that to comprehend this.
>
>You can make finacial gain from someone's copyrighted work, just as you can
>gain from stealing anything. More likely you will end up with severe
>financial and personal losses.
>
>Try starting with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright, fully research the
>laws that apply to your intended market(s), and check the current terms and
>conditions of your ISP.
>
>Pete
>

Oh, you're one of those. A simpleton that has never realized that "laws"
are just someone's self-serving opinion.

Sucks to be you!

Joel S wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:07:01 -0000, "Pete"
> <> wrote:
>
>>Die Wahrheit wrote:
>>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:21:57 -0500, "Peter" wrote:
>>>>That BS double talk does not mean you are free to use my creation
>>>>without
>>>>my
>>>>approval. Especially my photographs.
>>>
>>> Then don't post any image to the net that can be used for anyone's
>>> financial or personal gain. It's that amazingly simple. But then, you
>>> have
>>> to have a mind less simple than that to comprehend this.
>>
>>You can make finacial gain from someone's copyrighted work, just as you
>>can
>>gain from stealing anything. More likely you will end up with severe
>>financial and personal losses.
>>
>>Try starting with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright, fully research
>>the
>>laws that apply to your intended market(s), and check the current terms
>>and
>>conditions of your ISP.
>>
>>Pete
>>
>
> Oh, you're one of those. A simpleton that has never realized that "laws"
> are just someone's self-serving opinion.
>
> Sucks to be you!

I had the strange notion that "laws" are served by a justice system, often
in quite a harsh manner, but I'm no longer young enough to know everything.

By definition, simpletons rarely have a life that "sucks" - that is the life
position of clever-dicks who are trying to change the world to fit
themselves (and haven't yet figued out the futility of it).

Simple Pete

On 26 jan, 19:21, "Peter" <peter...@nospamoptonline.net> wrote:
> "sobriquet" <dohduh...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:6f8b4cdc-63f7-47ab-9ce9-...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 26 jan, 18:12, "Peter" <peter...@nospamoptonline.net> wrote:
> >> "sobriquet" <dohduh...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:9af77366-3c61-48a4-8dbf-...
>
> >> > On 26 jan, 17:10, "Peter" <peter...@nospamoptonline.net> wrote:
> >> >> "sobriquet" <dohduh...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >> >>news:fb433621-705c-4ed6-8740-...
>
> >> >> > On 26 jan, 01:57, "Save $3.99" <d...@null.null> wrote:
> >> >> >> So he's announcing that he may have some of our copyrighted images
> >> >> >> on
> >> >> >> his
> >> >> >> torrent.
>
> >> >> > My torrent is your torrent.
> >> >> > Sharing is caring.
>
> >> >> > The intellectual property mafia owns your mind and soon you will
> >> >> > have
> >> >> > to pay them for using your brain, because *you* are basically their
> >> >> > 'intellectual property', so they can do with you whatever they like
> >> >> > and just like they can dictate how you are allowed to use your
> >> >> > computer or your internet connection, there is no reason why they
> >> >> > shouldn't be allowed to dictate how you can use your brain! They own
> >> >> > the government as well as the media and hence they completely
> >> >> > control
> >> >> > your mind.
>
> >> >> > You will obey me while I lead you
> >> >> > And eat the garbage that I feed you
> >> >> > Until the day that we don't need you
> >> >> > Don't got for help...no one will heed you
> >> >> > Your mind is totally controlled
> >> >> > It has been stuffed into my mold
> >> >> > And you will do as you are told
> >> >> > Until the rights to you are sold
>
> >> >> Another thieving troll who has no regard for the hard work of others.
>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Peter
>
> >> > It's the intellectual property mafia that has no respect whatsoever
> >> > for human rights (like the freedom to share and exchange information).
>
> >> > Independent thought: Available at a central nervous system near you!
>
> >> > People who think bitstrings can be owned, bought or sold have their
> >> > head stuck up their arse so deep, that they have lost all contact with
> >> > reality.
>
> >> If I want to share my IP it's my decision, not yours. But a thief
> >> can't/won't agree.
>
> > And what exactly is your IP?
> > Can you leave your computer on overnight to generate random bitstrings
> > which can all be added to your collection of items in your
> > intellectual property inventory?
>
> > Who keeps track of ownership of bitstrings? Where can I find out who
> > owns the following bitstring?
>
> That BS double talk does not mean you are free to use my creation without my
> approval. Especially my photographs.
>
> --
> Peter

Then you better keep your photographs to yourselves, to prevent them
from becoming
available on the internet in the form of a bitstring.
Once it's out there it's beyond your control, because all bitstrings
belong to the public domain and the only way to prevent a bitstring
from being shared is to keep it a secret.

So you can own bitstrings, but don't tell other people which
bitstrings you own, because there is no way for you to prevent other
people from duplicating and distributing such bitstrings and you just
make an idiot out of yourself by claiming those bitstrings are your
intellectual property.

On 26 jan, 21:07, "Pete" <available.on.requ...@aserver.com> wrote:
> Die Wahrheit wrote:
> > On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:21:57 -0500, "Peter" wrote:
> >>That BS double talk does not mean you are free to use my creation without
> >>my
> >>approval. Especially my photographs.
>
> > Then don't post any image to the net that can be used for anyone's
> > financial or personal gain. It's that amazingly simple. But then, you have
> > to have a mind less simple than that to comprehend this.
>
> You can make finacial gain from someone's copyrighted work, just as you can
> gain from stealing anything. More likely you will end up with severe
> financial and personal losses.
>
> Try starting withhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright, fully research the
> laws that apply to your intended market(s), and check the current terms and
> conditions of your ISP.
>
> Pete

Copyright can't be applied to digital information (bitstrings) in a
sensible way.

Just have a look at this documentary and perhaps you will understand
why copyright is incompatible with contemporary information
technology:

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4873...nifesto_-_Xvid

On 26 jan, 21:56, "Pete" <available.on.requ...@aserver.com> wrote:
> Joel S wrote:
> > On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:07:01 -0000, "Pete"
> > <available.on.requ...@aserver.com> wrote:
>
> >>Die Wahrheit wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:21:57 -0500, "Peter" wrote:
> >>>>That BS double talk does not mean you are free to use my creation
> >>>>without
> >>>>my
> >>>>approval. Especially my photographs.
>
> >>> Then don't post any image to the net that can be used for anyone's
> >>> financial or personal gain. It's that amazingly simple. But then, you
> >>> have
> >>> to have a mind less simple than that to comprehend this.
>
> >>You can make finacial gain from someone's copyrighted work, just as you
> >>can
> >>gain from stealing anything. More likely you will end up with severe
> >>financial and personal losses.
>
> >>Try starting withhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright, fully research
> >>the
> >>laws that apply to your intended market(s), and check the current terms
> >>and
> >>conditions of your ISP.
>
> >>Pete
>
> > Oh, you're one of those. A simpleton that has never realized that "laws"
> > are just someone's self-serving opinion.
>
> > Sucks to be you!
>
> I had the strange notion that "laws" are served by a justice system, often
> in quite a harsh manner, but I'm no longer young enough to know everything.
>
> By definition, simpletons rarely have a life that "sucks" - that is the life
> position of clever-dicks who are trying to change the world to fit
> themselves (and haven't yet figued out the futility of it).
>
> Simple Pete - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
>
> - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -

Justice?
Justice my ass.. you can drink all the alcohol you like and the
government basically couldn't
care less if you'd choke on your own puke, but if you grow some
cannabis flowers at home, the government suddenly kicks into nanny
mode and will bust your door to arrest you and lock you up amongst
rapists and murderers for peacefully cultivating your favorite
flowers.
Supposedly for your own good (because cannabis might be abused.. no
really).

So justice is as much of a joke today as it was back in the days when
people with a different skin color could be owned, bought or sold as
slaves.

"sobriquet" <> wrote in message
news:a5eb4306-53ee-48d1-98e1-...
> On 26 jan, 19:21, "Peter" <peter...@nospamoptonline.net> wrote:
>> "sobriquet" <dohduh...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:6f8b4cdc-63f7-47ab-9ce9-...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 26 jan, 18:12, "Peter" <peter...@nospamoptonline.net> wrote:
>> >> "sobriquet" <dohduh...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:9af77366-3c61-48a4-8dbf-...
>>
>> >> > On 26 jan, 17:10, "Peter" <peter...@nospamoptonline.net> wrote:
>> >> >> "sobriquet" <dohduh...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >> >>news:fb433621-705c-4ed6-8740-...
>>
>> >> >> > On 26 jan, 01:57, "Save $3.99" <d...@null.null> wrote:
>> >> >> >> So he's announcing that he may have some of our copyrighted
>> >> >> >> images
>> >> >> >> on
>> >> >> >> his
>> >> >> >> torrent.
>>
>> >> >> > My torrent is your torrent.
>> >> >> > Sharing is caring.
>>
>> >> >> > The intellectual property mafia owns your mind and soon you will
>> >> >> > have
>> >> >> > to pay them for using your brain, because *you* are basically
>> >> >> > their
>> >> >> > 'intellectual property', so they can do with you whatever they
>> >> >> > like
>> >> >> > and just like they can dictate how you are allowed to use your
>> >> >> > computer or your internet connection, there is no reason why they
>> >> >> > shouldn't be allowed to dictate how you can use your brain! They
>> >> >> > own
>> >> >> > the government as well as the media and hence they completely
>> >> >> > control
>> >> >> > your mind.
>>
>> >> >> > You will obey me while I lead you
>> >> >> > And eat the garbage that I feed you
>> >> >> > Until the day that we don't need you
>> >> >> > Don't got for help...no one will heed you
>> >> >> > Your mind is totally controlled
>> >> >> > It has been stuffed into my mold
>> >> >> > And you will do as you are told
>> >> >> > Until the rights to you are sold
>>
>> >> >> Another thieving troll who has no regard for the hard work of
>> >> >> others.
>>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Peter
>>
>> >> > It's the intellectual property mafia that has no respect whatsoever
>> >> > for human rights (like the freedom to share and exchange
>> >> > information).
>>
>> >> > Independent thought: Available at a central nervous system near you!
>>
>> >> > People who think bitstrings can be owned, bought or sold have their
>> >> > head stuck up their arse so deep, that they have lost all contact
>> >> > with
>> >> > reality.
>>
>> >> If I want to share my IP it's my decision, not yours. But a thief
>> >> can't/won't agree.
>>
>> > And what exactly is your IP?
>> > Can you leave your computer on overnight to generate random bitstrings
>> > which can all be added to your collection of items in your
>> > intellectual property inventory?
>>
>> > Who keeps track of ownership of bitstrings? Where can I find out who
>> > owns the following bitstring?
>>
>> That BS double talk does not mean you are free to use my creation without
>> my
>> approval. Especially my photographs.
>>
>> --
>> Peter
>
> Then you better keep your photographs to yourselves, to prevent them
> from becoming
> available on the internet in the form of a bitstring.
> Once it's out there it's beyond your control, because all bitstrings
> belong to the public domain and the only way to prevent a bitstring
> from being shared is to keep it a secret.
>
> So you can own bitstrings, but don't tell other people which
> bitstrings you own, because there is no way for you to prevent other
> people from duplicating and distributing such bitstrings and you just
> make an idiot out of yourself by claiming those bitstrings are your
> intellectual property.


PLONK

--
Peter