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Sweetpea
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      01-24-2010
On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 10:51:14 +1300, Enkidu wrote:

> Sweetpea wrote:
>> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 22:46:07 +1300, victor wrote:
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>>> The office eraser tool is on Microsoft's site.

>>
>> Why doesn't Micro$oft simply fix the uninstallation tool so that when
>> MS Office is removed it does so cleanly?
>>

> One reason is the millions of copies out there already. To fix the tool
> for the few that may want to remove Office by an update to Office would
> mean millions of unnecessary updates for those that never intend to
> remove Office.


That is illogical.

The installation program that comes with the OS should be managing this.


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      01-24-2010
peterwn wrote:
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> I now think I know what the problem was. I executed SP3 from an
> external USB hard drive and noticed when reinstalling that SP3 writes
> its temporary files to the USB drive. It appears the drive needs to
> be left connected during the subsequent reboot to complete
> installation.
>

An ancient Windows guru once imparted some his knowledge to me, and one
of the items that he passed on was to run any SP from the same drive as
Windows is installed on. I don't know if it is really strictly
necessary, but I've always done it that way, where possible.

So try copying the SPs to the C: drive. You can always clean up once
they are on, if you need to.

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      01-24-2010
Sweetpea wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 11:30:50 +1300, victor wrote:
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>>> Name one.

>> To retain settings.

>
> User settings should be in their profile, not in the Registry.
>

Global settings are held in the Registry, and incidentally, the User
Profile is one of the 'hives' that is loaded at login time. It's
considered as part of the Registry. It's visible in a registry editor as
HKEY_CURRENT_USER.

Cheers,

Cliff

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      01-24-2010
Sweetpea wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 10:51:14 +1300, Enkidu wrote:
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>> Sweetpea wrote:
>>> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 22:46:07 +1300, victor wrote:
>>>
>>>> The office eraser tool is on Microsoft's site.
>>> Why doesn't Micro$oft simply fix the uninstallation tool so that
>>> when MS Office is removed it does so cleanly?
>>>

>> One reason is the millions of copies out there already. To fix the
>> tool for the few that may want to remove Office by an update to
>> Office would mean millions of unnecessary updates for those that
>> never intend to remove Office.

>
> That is illogical.
>
> The installation program that comes with the OS should be managing
> this.
>

Sure, but since it doesn't, it would require an update to add it to
millions of copies as I said above.

Cheers,

Cliff

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      01-24-2010
On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 17:34:04 +1300, Enkidu wrote:

>>> One reason is the millions of copies out there already. To fix the
>>> tool for the few that may want to remove Office by an update to Office
>>> would mean millions of unnecessary updates for those that never intend
>>> to remove Office.

>>
>> That is illogical.
>>
>> The installation program that comes with the OS should be managing
>> this.

>
> Sure, but since it doesn't, it would require an update to add it to
> millions of copies as I said above.


I don't see that being a problem - Micro$oft already shoves out many updates every month.


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      01-24-2010
Somewhere on teh intarwebs Enkidu wrote:
> peterwn wrote:
>>
>> I now think I know what the problem was. I executed SP3 from an
>> external USB hard drive and noticed when reinstalling that SP3 writes
>> its temporary files to the USB drive. It appears the drive needs to
>> be left connected during the subsequent reboot to complete
>> installation.
>>

> An ancient Windows guru once imparted some his knowledge to me, and
> one of the items that he passed on was to run any SP from the same
> drive as Windows is installed on. I don't know if it is really
> strictly necessary, but I've always done it that way, where possible.
>
> So try copying the SPs to the C: drive. You can always clean up once
> they are on, if you need to.


I run them from CD and have no trouble. The SP unpacks itself to any
partition with enough space and usually cleans up after itself. However not
always so I have learned to make a note of where it's unpacking to and
deleting the folder if the Sp doesn't.
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      01-24-2010
Sweetpea wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 17:34:04 +1300, Enkidu wrote:
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>>>> One reason is the millions of copies out there already. To fix the
>>>> tool for the few that may want to remove Office by an update to Office
>>>> would mean millions of unnecessary updates for those that never intend
>>>> to remove Office.
>>> That is illogical.
>>>
>>> The installation program that comes with the OS should be managing
>>> this.

>> Sure, but since it doesn't, it would require an update to add it to
>> millions of copies as I said above.

>
> I don't see that being a problem - Micro$oft already shoves out many updates every month.
>
>

There is no way of updating installation CDs
 
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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      01-24-2010
In message <hjgsub$trr$(E-Mail Removed)-september.org>, victor wrote:

> Sweetpea wrote:
>
>> I don't see that being a problem - Micro$oft already shoves out many
>> updates every month.
>>

> There is no way of updating installation CDs


Whatever happened to “slipstreaming”?
 
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      01-24-2010
On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 21:15:15 +1300, victor wrote:

> Sweetpea wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 17:34:04 +1300, Enkidu wrote:
>>
>>>>> One reason is the millions of copies out there already. To fix the
>>>>> tool for the few that may want to remove Office by an update to
>>>>> Office would mean millions of unnecessary updates for those that
>>>>> never intend to remove Office.
>>>> That is illogical.
>>>>
>>>> The installation program that comes with the OS should be managing
>>>> this.
>>> Sure, but since it doesn't, it would require an update to add it to
>>> millions of copies as I said above.

>>
>> I don't see that being a problem - Micro$oft already shoves out many
>> updates every month.

>
> There is no way of updating installation CDs


Re-read the thread, moron!


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      01-24-2010
On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 22:00:21 +1300, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> In message <hjgsub$trr$(E-Mail Removed)-september.org>, victor wrote:
>
>> Sweetpea wrote:
>>
>>> I don't see that being a problem - Micro$oft already shoves out many
>>> updates every month.
>>>

>> There is no way of updating installation CDs

>
> Whatever happened to “slipstreaming”?


Lawrence, I suggested to Cliff that Microsoft should update the part of MS Windows that is equivalent
to the RPM so that it would cleanly uninstall applications. He stated that it would be too difficult to
update that as it would affect too many people.

I said Rubbish - MS regularly pushes updates onto all MS Windows computers every month.

And then the moron went off on a tangent to do with installation CDs, none of which was relevant to this
thread.


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