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NOTE: I may be wrong but I do NOT beleive this is the wrong group,
Office caused the damage but it's a Vista 64 problem now, Windows Vista
Ultimate 64 with Office 2007 installed...

I downloaded the beta version of Office 2010 and it installed OK. I
ran Outlook and Word, both worked.

The next time I started the PC, Outlook refused to open as did Word,
etc. so I used the Add/Remove to remove Office 2010 Beta and got errors
(too long ago to recall what they were) but it seemed to uninstall, re-
installed Office 2007 but that failed, tried a system restore to prior
to installing the Beta-From-Hell but, while it worked, there were
problems which several reboots couldn't fix.

To get to the final results, after manual removal and multiple system
restores, etc. now when I boot into Vista I get a flashing screen with
a message "Windows Explorer has stopped working" and it repeats
continually. If I boot into safe mode, the same thing happens.

I had created the "true administrator" account and it boots and runs
with no problems.

Malware Bytes shows clean on ALL partitions and disks, MS Security
Essentials says it's clean, etc.

Any ideas? Anyone know how to contact the Office Beta folks? Since I
can't run it, that information seems unavailable now. <sigh>

PS. Dual booting into XP and all is well, I'm sending this from there.
XP has Office 2007 also but I didn't try to install the Beta-From-Hell
in XP.

I have an Acronis image that isn't as current as I'd like, any way I
can save the current Vista install before I wipe it and start over
would be most helpful?



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XS11E <> wrote:

> I have an Acronis image that isn't as current as I'd like, any way
> I can save the current Vista install before I wipe it and start
> over would be most helpful?

I've created a new user and am setting Vista up to work that way. It's
going to be a very long, slow process but I've got email and newsgroups
working so far.... When it's all done I can delete the previous user
but..... I'd sure appreciate any ideas on how to recover the old
profile.



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"XS11E" <> wrote in message
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> XS11E <> wrote:
>
>> I have an Acronis image that isn't as current as I'd like, any way
>> I can save the current Vista install before I wipe it and start
>> over would be most helpful?
>
> I've created a new user and am setting Vista up to work that way. It's
> going to be a very long, slow process but I've got email and newsgroups
> working so far.... When it's all done I can delete the previous user
> but..... I'd sure appreciate any ideas on how to recover the old
> profile.
>

Try using "System restore" to the date where you installed the beta version,
or before.

On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 12:39:58 -0700, XS11E <>
wrote:

>
>NOTE: I may be wrong but I do NOT beleive this is the wrong group,
>Office caused the damage but it's a Vista 64 problem now, Windows Vista
>Ultimate 64 with Office 2007 installed...
>
>I downloaded the beta version of Office 2010 and it installed OK. I
>ran Outlook and Word, both worked.
>
>The next time I started the PC, Outlook refused to open as did Word,
>etc. so I used the Add/Remove to remove Office 2010 Beta and got errors
>(too long ago to recall what they were) but it seemed to uninstall, re-
>installed Office 2007 but that failed, tried a system restore to prior
>to installing the Beta-From-Hell but, while it worked, there were
>problems which several reboots couldn't fix.
>
>To get to the final results, after manual removal and multiple system
>restores, etc. now when I boot into Vista I get a flashing screen with
>a message "Windows Explorer has stopped working" and it repeats
>continually. If I boot into safe mode, the same thing happens.
>
>I had created the "true administrator" account and it boots and runs
>with no problems.
>
>Malware Bytes shows clean on ALL partitions and disks, MS Security
>Essentials says it's clean, etc.
>
>Any ideas? Anyone know how to contact the Office Beta folks? Since I
>can't run it, that information seems unavailable now. <sigh>
>
>PS. Dual booting into XP and all is well, I'm sending this from there.
>XP has Office 2007 also but I didn't try to install the Beta-From-Hell
>in XP.
>
>I have an Acronis image that isn't as current as I'd like, any way I
>can save the current Vista install before I wipe it and start over
>would be most helpful?

I tried it and it caused major problems with Outlook. It seemed to
set up a new data file (.pst) and I had great difficulty in trying to
get it to import the existing e-mails, contacts etc. The old data
file was no longer accessible as this was a new computer.

So eventually I uninstalled, fortunately without the difficulties you
encountered. My initial impression was that Word had been made far
too cluttered so I am not sure if I will be 'upgrading' to Office 2010
when it arrives.

XS11E -- Sorry to hear about your Office beta issues, and I hope the
recovery goes well. Once you actually get ready to try this again, let me
STRONGLY suggest that Office betas are now, and have always been, the best
justification for virtualization possible. Office betas are NOTORIOUSLY
flakey. Often interesting, and sometimes even useful, but not for the faint
of heart and not to run on any machine one cares about. Create a VM and run
it there. Use saved states and snapshots to give yourself a fallback
position. And now you can actually enjoy the beta.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel




"XS11E" <> wrote in message
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>
> NOTE: I may be wrong but I do NOT beleive this is the wrong group,
> Office caused the damage but it's a Vista 64 problem now, Windows Vista
> Ultimate 64 with Office 2007 installed...
>
> I downloaded the beta version of Office 2010 and it installed OK. I
> ran Outlook and Word, both worked.
>
> The next time I started the PC, Outlook refused to open as did Word,
> etc. so I used the Add/Remove to remove Office 2010 Beta and got errors
> (too long ago to recall what they were) but it seemed to uninstall, re-
> installed Office 2007 but that failed, tried a system restore to prior
> to installing the Beta-From-Hell but, while it worked, there were
> problems which several reboots couldn't fix.
>
> To get to the final results, after manual removal and multiple system
> restores, etc. now when I boot into Vista I get a flashing screen with
> a message "Windows Explorer has stopped working" and it repeats
> continually. If I boot into safe mode, the same thing happens.
>
> I had created the "true administrator" account and it boots and runs
> with no problems.
>
> Malware Bytes shows clean on ALL partitions and disks, MS Security
> Essentials says it's clean, etc.
>
> Any ideas? Anyone know how to contact the Office Beta folks? Since I
> can't run it, that information seems unavailable now. <sigh>
>
> PS. Dual booting into XP and all is well, I'm sending this from there.
> XP has Office 2007 also but I didn't try to install the Beta-From-Hell
> in XP.
>
> I have an Acronis image that isn't as current as I'd like, any way I
> can save the current Vista install before I wipe it and start over
> would be most helpful?
>
>
>
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> XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
> The Usenet Improvement Project:
> http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/

"Tom" <> wrote:

>
>
> "XS11E" <> wrote in message
> news:Xns9CFAB1A9867F1xs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1...
>> XS11E <> wrote:
>>
>>> I have an Acronis image that isn't as current as I'd like, any
>>> way I can save the current Vista install before I wipe it and
>>> start over would be most helpful?
>>
>> I've created a new user and am setting Vista up to work that way.
>> It's going to be a very long, slow process but I've got email
>> and newsgroups working so far.... When it's all done I can
>> delete the previous user but..... I'd sure appreciate any ideas
>> on how to recover the old profile.
>>
>
> Try using "System restore" to the date where you installed the
> beta version, or before.

As mentioned in the original post, I've tried multiple restores.

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"Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote:

> XS11E -- Sorry to hear about your Office beta issues, and I hope
> the recovery goes well. Once you actually get ready to try this
> again, let me STRONGLY suggest that Office betas are now, and have
> always been, the best justification for virtualization possible.
> Office betas are NOTORIOUSLY flakey. Often interesting, and
> sometimes even useful, but not for the faint of heart and not to
> run on any machine one cares about. Create a VM and run it there.
> Use saved states and snapshots to give yourself a fallback
> position. And now you can actually enjoy the beta.

Thanks, that's V*E*R*Y G*O*O*D A*D*V*I*C*E. I was lulled into a false
sense of security from having run Office 2007 Betas from the earliest
w/o any problems at all.

AAMOF, this is the very first beta program I've had ANY problems with
other than the very earliest Windows 95 beta and some very minor
annoyances in an AVG beta program.

What I should have done (ain't hindsight WONDERFUL!) was to have
created an Acroins image just prior to installing. I usually do that
but had neglected to update my images for several weeks.

From the little I've seen of Office 2010 I think I'll probably wind up
eventually uninstalling Office 2007 and going back to Office 2003 which
at least enables Outlook Quote Fix to run on Outlook, I'll certainly
not be running Office 2010 again!



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Sorry to hear of your problems. I have been running Office Professional
2010 Preview since July 15, 2009 with no problems. While I don't use a lot
of it, I have had no problems with either the 32 bit version on Vista 32 or
with the 64 bit version on Vista 64 and Win7 64 (not installed on final
version). I have not tried the betas.

"XS11E" <> wrote in message
news:Xns9CFA80D8D926Cxs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1...
>
> NOTE: I may be wrong but I do NOT beleive this is the wrong group,
> Office caused the damage but it's a Vista 64 problem now, Windows Vista
> Ultimate 64 with Office 2007 installed...
>
> I downloaded the beta version of Office 2010 and it installed OK. I
> ran Outlook and Word, both worked.
>
> The next time I started the PC, Outlook refused to open as did Word,
> etc. so I used the Add/Remove to remove Office 2010 Beta and got errors
> (too long ago to recall what they were) but it seemed to uninstall, re-
> installed Office 2007 but that failed, tried a system restore to prior
> to installing the Beta-From-Hell but, while it worked, there were
> problems which several reboots couldn't fix.
>
> To get to the final results, after manual removal and multiple system
> restores, etc. now when I boot into Vista I get a flashing screen with
> a message "Windows Explorer has stopped working" and it repeats
> continually. If I boot into safe mode, the same thing happens.
>
> I had created the "true administrator" account and it boots and runs
> with no problems.
>
> Malware Bytes shows clean on ALL partitions and disks, MS Security
> Essentials says it's clean, etc.
>
> Any ideas? Anyone know how to contact the Office Beta folks? Since I
> can't run it, that information seems unavailable now. <sigh>
>
> PS. Dual booting into XP and all is well, I'm sending this from there.
> XP has Office 2007 also but I didn't try to install the Beta-From-Hell
> in XP.
>
> I have an Acronis image that isn't as current as I'd like, any way I
> can save the current Vista install before I wipe it and start over
> would be most helpful?
>
>
>
> --
> XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
> The Usenet Improvement Project:
> http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/

"John Barnes" <> wrote:

> Sorry to hear of your problems. I have been running Office
> Professional 2010 Preview since July 15, 2009 with no problems.
> While I don't use a lot of it, I have had no problems with either
> the 32 bit version on Vista 32 or with the 64 bit version on Vista
> 64 and Win7 64 (not installed on final version). I have not
> tried the betas.

The preview IS a beta.


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I haven't spent any time with Office 2010 yet, though I'm about to fire it
up on a VM. But I mostly use Office 2007 apps EXCEPT for Word. I won't
upgrade to Word 2007 from Word 2003, so I doubt I'll be any more inclined to
run Word 2010.

I've been involved with so many betas over the years that I've gotten quite
careful about how I do things. With the exception of running Windows betas
on my main workstation ("self-hosting", in MS parlance), I always run betas
in a safe environment unless I'm involved in a TAP or its equivalent that
will directly support me during the beta. In the old days, we used
dual/multi-boot environments, but virtualization has been the salvation of
beta testers. Less so of beta teams, since it means that people are running
on essentially identical hardware.

It's fun to test the newest stuff and often a learning experience as well,
but it does have risks. And Office is one that has bitten me more than once,
so I treat it with special caution.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel




"XS11E" <> wrote in message
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> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote:
>
>> XS11E -- Sorry to hear about your Office beta issues, and I hope
>> the recovery goes well. Once you actually get ready to try this
>> again, let me STRONGLY suggest that Office betas are now, and have
>> always been, the best justification for virtualization possible.
>> Office betas are NOTORIOUSLY flakey. Often interesting, and
>> sometimes even useful, but not for the faint of heart and not to
>> run on any machine one cares about. Create a VM and run it there.
>> Use saved states and snapshots to give yourself a fallback
>> position. And now you can actually enjoy the beta.
>
> Thanks, that's V*E*R*Y G*O*O*D A*D*V*I*C*E. I was lulled into a false
> sense of security from having run Office 2007 Betas from the earliest
> w/o any problems at all.
>
> AAMOF, this is the very first beta program I've had ANY problems with
> other than the very earliest Windows 95 beta and some very minor
> annoyances in an AVG beta program.
>
> What I should have done (ain't hindsight WONDERFUL!) was to have
> created an Acroins image just prior to installing. I usually do that
> but had neglected to update my images for several weeks.
>
> From the little I've seen of Office 2010 I think I'll probably wind up
> eventually uninstalling Office 2007 and going back to Office 2003 which
> at least enables Outlook Quote Fix to run on Outlook, I'll certainly
> not be running Office 2010 again!
>
>
>
> --
> XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
> The Usenet Improvement Project:
> http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/