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Mike S. <> wrote:

> In article <f483c350-ef1c-4951-98e8->,
> Rich <> wrote:
>>On Dec 5, 11:02pm, "Don Lope de Aguirre" <l...@amazon.invalid> wrote:
>>> Why do these ****ers put just an LCD for viewing and no viewfinder if the
>>> LCD is **** in bright daylight? I have to guess where the subject is and
>>> hope for the best. You are dumbasses Nikon! OK, not just Nikon but a lot of
>>> camera companies are doing the same thing. You have to pay another $100.00
>>> just to get a P&S with a viewfinder.
>>
>>All LCDs are crap in sunlight.

> The LCD displays on my Garmin GPS navigator, and my Nokia smartphone, are
> perfectly and brilliantly readable in direct sunlight - because the
> designers took that into account and put a reflective panel behind the
> LCD. It's called a transflective display - and it's well past high time
> that camera manufacturers started putting them in digital cameras.

I suspect the reason they won't is that transflective displays mess
with colour rendition. The latest backlit displays are a great advance
and perfectly readable in the kind of dismal winter sunlight we get in
Scotland just now. It'll be quite some time before I'll find out how
they fare in bright summer sunlight

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Chris Malcolm

In article <>,
Chris Malcolm <> wrote:
>Mike S. <> wrote:
>
>> In article <f483c350-ef1c-4951-98e8->,
>> Rich <> wrote:
>>>On Dec 5, 11:02pm, "Don Lope de Aguirre" <l...@amazon.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Why do these ****ers put just an LCD for viewing and no viewfinder if the
>>>> LCD is **** in bright daylight? I have to guess where the subject is and
>>>> hope for the best. You are dumbasses Nikon! OK, not just Nikon but a lot of
>>>> camera companies are doing the same thing. You have to pay another $100.00
>>>> just to get a P&S with a viewfinder.
>>>
>>>All LCDs are crap in sunlight.
>
>> The LCD displays on my Garmin GPS navigator, and my Nokia smartphone, are
>> perfectly and brilliantly readable in direct sunlight - because the
>> designers took that into account and put a reflective panel behind the
>> LCD. It's called a transflective display - and it's well past high time
>> that camera manufacturers started putting them in digital cameras.
>
>I suspect the reason they won't is that transflective displays mess
>with colour rendition. The latest backlit displays are a great advance
>and perfectly readable in the kind of dismal winter sunlight we get in
>Scotland just now. It'll be quite some time before I'll find out how
>they fare in bright summer sunlight

Perhaps there is an issue with color rendition on transflective screens;
but honestly, using the camera on my phone things look accurate enough to
me. Of course, things change when direct sunlight is falling on the
screen; but frankly I'd much rather put up with colors that change a
little in the sun than have to cope with a screen that becomes totally
unviewable under the same circumstances.

ray wrote:
> On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:02:30 -0800, Don Lope de Aguirre wrote:
>
>> Why do these ****ers put just an LCD for viewing and no viewfinder if
>> the LCD is **** in bright daylight? I have to guess where the subject is
>> and hope for the best. You are dumbasses Nikon! OK, not just Nikon but a
>> lot of camera companies are doing the same thing. You have to pay
>> another $100.00 just to get a P&S with a viewfinder.
>
> I guess someone held a gun to your head and made you buy it. You didn't
> know it had no viewfinder???

It is getting pretty close to holding a gun to your head. If you want a
pocket size camera your choice is pretty much no viewfinder or crappy
viewfinder, and the crappy viewfinder models are getting rarer each
year. Last one I got, I felt I needed a viewfinder so got a Canon Ixus
800, but after 2 years the viewfinder died and on current models the
viewfinder looks even crappier.

I do have the option of dragging my Olympus XA out of the back of the
wardrobe. That is pocketable, has a pretty good viewfinder (still
working after 30 years), and a FF sensor.

Apteryx