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Above the wailing & moaning of the trolls, www.1.osvrt.net was heard to
say:

<snip>

> To cut is short, I would like to try to break free from Microsoft and its
> affiliates, just, since I am of very limited knowledge about computers, I do
> not know what to do. Any idea is received with gratitude.

Linux Live-Cds. All you do is put one in your Cd drive & boot the machine.
It won't install anything to your hard drive, nor will it alter anything in
your existing installed OS.

Linux doesn't have viruses & doesn't need defraggging.

Ubuntu, LinuxMint, & Mandriva are among the most popular.
These are for 32-bit machines, but you can get 64-bit if you wish:-

http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download

http://www2.mandriva.com/downloads/?p=linux-one

http://www.linuxmint.com/

Others are:
http://www.sabayonlinux.org/mirrors

http://pclinuxos.com/

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tool which wipes Windows from your PC in
seconds!

William Poaster wrote:
> Above the wailing & moaning of the trolls, www.1.osvrt.net was heard to
> say:
>
> <snip>
>
>> To cut is short, I would like to try to break free from Microsoft and its
>> affiliates, just, since I am of very limited knowledge about computers, I do
>> not know what to do. Any idea is received with gratitude.
>
> Linux Live-Cds. All you do is put one in your Cd drive & boot the machine.
> It won't install anything to your hard drive, nor will it alter anything in
> your existing installed OS.
>
> Linux doesn't have viruses

Utter rubbish and if you keep you head in the sand with that opinion you
will have an infected system in no time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Virus

> & doesn't need defraggging.
Neither does Windows although some software vendors would have you
believe otherwise. Occasional defragging is no bad thing however.

That said if Linux filesystems don't need defragging why would somebody
even bother writing one?
http://linux.maruhn.com/sec/defrag.html

Also why would fsck even bother reporting non-contiguous blocks?

http://www.webupd8.org/2009/10/defra...lesystems.html

Above the wailing & moaning of the trolls, Desk Rabbit was heard to
say:

> William Poaster wrote:
>> Above the wailing & moaning of the trolls, www.1.osvrt.net was heard to
>> say:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> To cut is short, I would like to try to break free from Microsoft and its
>>> affiliates, just, since I am of very limited knowledge about computers, I do
>>> not know what to do. Any idea is received with gratitude.
>>
>> Linux Live-Cds. All you do is put one in your Cd drive & boot the machine.
>> It won't install anything to your hard drive, nor will it alter anything in
>> your existing installed OS.
>>
>> Linux doesn't have viruses
>
> Utter rubbish and if you keep you head in the sand with that opinion you
> will have an infected system in no time.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Virus

Did you actually *read* that URL you posted?
<quote>
There has not yet been a single widespread Linux malware threat of the
type that Microsoft Windows software currently faces; this is commonly
attributed to the malware's lack of root access and fast updates to most
Linux vulnerabilities.[2]
<unquote>

[2] http://librenix.com/?inode=21

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/10...dows_vs_linux/

Now as more than 60% of the internet runs on Linux servers [a], you can
explain why it's almost *always* M$ ones which are attacked with viruses?

[a] Ballmer Still Searching for an Answer to Google

,----[ Quote ]
| "Forty percent of servers run Windows, 60 percent run Linux," he said. "How
| ^^^^^^^^^^^
| are we doing? Forty is less than 60, so I don't like it. ... We have
| some |work to do." `----
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente...to_google.html

>> & doesn't need defraggging.
> Neither does Windows although some software vendors would have you
> believe otherwise. Occasional defragging is no bad thing however.
>
> That said if Linux filesystems don't need defragging why would somebody
> even bother writing one?
> http://linux.maruhn.com/sec/defrag.html

Really! Do you actually *know* what that is?
You *do* know what a journaled file system is, don't you.

Anyway as you like "wikipedia", here is this:
[Defragmentataion]
"There is no online ext3 defragmentation tool that works on the filesystem
level."
"However they only work if the filesystem is reasonably empty. A true
defragmentation tool does not exist for ext3."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3

> Also why would fsck even bother reporting non-contiguous blocks?
>
> http://www.webupd8.org/2009/10/defra...lesystems.html

So that supposedly takes care of ext3 & ext4, what about the *other* Linux
file systems?

"I know everybody says EXT3 and EXT4 filesystems don't need defragmentation
and in most cases, that's true!"

See that? "most cases, that's true!"
And why it's true:
http://geekblog.oneandoneis2.org/ind..._defragmenting

I've used Linux for about 10 years & never need to defrag any filesystem.

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tool which wipes Windows from your PC in
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Desk Rabbit wrote:
> William Poaster wrote:
>> Above the wailing & moaning of the trolls, www.1.osvrt.net was heard to
>> say:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> To cut is short, I would like to try to break free from Microsoft and
>>> its affiliates, just, since I am of very limited knowledge about
>>> computers, I do not know what to do. Any idea is received with
>>> gratitude.
>>
>> Linux Live-Cds. All you do is put one in your Cd drive & boot the
>> machine.
>> It won't install anything to your hard drive, nor will it alter
>> anything in
>> your existing installed OS.
>>
>> Linux doesn't have viruses
>
> Utter rubbish and if you keep you head in the sand with that opinion you
> will have an infected system in no time.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Virus
>

LOL
The link simply confirmed the Linux does not have virus problems

>> & doesn't need defraggging.
> Neither does Windows although some software vendors would have you
> believe otherwise. Occasional defragging is no bad thing however.
>
> That said if Linux filesystems don't need defragging why would somebody
> even bother writing one?
> http://linux.maruhn.com/sec/defrag.html
>
> Also why would fsck even bother reporting non-contiguous blocks?
>
> http://www.webupd8.org/2009/10/defra...lesystems.html
>
>

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:52:59 -0600, philo <> wrote:

>Desk Rabbit wrote:
>> William Poaster wrote:
>>> Above the wailing & moaning of the trolls, www.1.osvrt.net was heard to
>>> say:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> To cut is short, I would like to try to break free from Microsoft and
>>>> its affiliates, just, since I am of very limited knowledge about
>>>> computers, I do not know what to do. Any idea is received with
>>>> gratitude.
>>>
>>> Linux Live-Cds. All you do is put one in your Cd drive & boot the
>>> machine.
>>> It won't install anything to your hard drive, nor will it alter
>>> anything in
>>> your existing installed OS.
>>>
>>> Linux doesn't have viruses
>>
>> Utter rubbish and if you keep you head in the sand with that opinion you
>> will have an infected system in no time.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Virus
>>
>
>LOL
>The link simply confirmed the Linux does not have virus problems

Which is why I use it. It's quite a relief to use, after a day full of cleaning
viruses off Windows systems.

--
"Too often we... enjoy the comfort of opinion without
the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:45:04 -0600, Mara wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:52:59 -0600, philo <> wrote:
>
>>Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>> William Poaster wrote:
>>>> Above the wailing & moaning of the trolls, www.1.osvrt.net was heard
>>>> to say:
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>>> To cut is short, I would like to try to break free from Microsoft
>>>>> and its affiliates, just, since I am of very limited knowledge about
>>>>> computers, I do not know what to do. Any idea is received with
>>>>> gratitude.
>>>>
>>>> Linux Live-Cds. All you do is put one in your Cd drive & boot the
>>>> machine.
>>>> It won't install anything to your hard drive, nor will it alter
>>>> anything in
>>>> your existing installed OS.
>>>>
>>>> Linux doesn't have viruses
>>>
>>> Utter rubbish and if you keep you head in the sand with that opinion
>>> you will have an infected system in no time.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Virus
>>>
>>>
>>LOL
>>The link simply confirmed the Linux does not have virus problems
>
> Which is why I use it. It's quite a relief to use, after a day full of
> cleaning viruses off Windows systems.

But Linux has 'concept' viruseseses. Aren't they dangerous?



--
Half a bee, philosophically, must ipso facto half not be. But half
the bee has got to be, vis-Ã*-vis its entirety - d'you see? But can
a bee be said to be or not to be an entire bee when half the bee is
not a bee, due to some ancient injury?

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:31:23 GMT, Aardvark <> wrote:

>On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:45:04 -0600, Mara wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:52:59 -0600, philo <> wrote:
>>
>>>Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>>> William Poaster wrote:
>>>>> Above the wailing & moaning of the trolls, www.1.osvrt.net was heard
>>>>> to say:
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>>> To cut is short, I would like to try to break free from Microsoft
>>>>>> and its affiliates, just, since I am of very limited knowledge about
>>>>>> computers, I do not know what to do. Any idea is received with
>>>>>> gratitude.
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux Live-Cds. All you do is put one in your Cd drive & boot the
>>>>> machine.
>>>>> It won't install anything to your hard drive, nor will it alter
>>>>> anything in
>>>>> your existing installed OS.
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux doesn't have viruses
>>>>
>>>> Utter rubbish and if you keep you head in the sand with that opinion
>>>> you will have an infected system in no time.
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Virus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>LOL
>>>The link simply confirmed the Linux does not have virus problems
>>
>> Which is why I use it. It's quite a relief to use, after a day full of
>> cleaning viruses off Windows systems.
>
>But Linux has 'concept' viruseseses. Aren't they dangerous?

It's not the virus that gets you. It's those extra "es"s. Once they're got your
OS you might as well just give it up, especially if your computer decides to try
to spell "Mississippi."

Could take months.

--
"Too often we... enjoy the comfort of opinion without
the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy

Aardvark wrote:

> Mara wrote:
>> Which is why I use it. It's quite a relief to use, after a day full
>> of cleaning viruses off Windows systems.
>
> But Linux has 'concept' viruseseses. Aren't they dangerous?

Yes, if your computer is in a virus laboratory.

--
-bts
-Friends don't let friends propagate

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:41:07 -0600, Mara wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:31:23 GMT, Aardvark <>
> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:45:04 -0600, Mara wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:52:59 -0600, philo <>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>>>> William Poaster wrote:
>>>>>> Above the wailing & moaning of the trolls, www.1.osvrt.net was
>>>>>> heard to say:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To cut is short, I would like to try to break free from Microsoft
>>>>>>> and its affiliates, just, since I am of very limited knowledge
>>>>>>> about computers, I do not know what to do. Any idea is received
>>>>>>> with gratitude.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Linux Live-Cds. All you do is put one in your Cd drive & boot the
>>>>>> machine.
>>>>>> It won't install anything to your hard drive, nor will it alter
>>>>>> anything in
>>>>>> your existing installed OS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Linux doesn't have viruses
>>>>>
>>>>> Utter rubbish and if you keep you head in the sand with that opinion
>>>>> you will have an infected system in no time.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Virus
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>LOL
>>>>The link simply confirmed the Linux does not have virus problems
>>>
>>> Which is why I use it. It's quite a relief to use, after a day full of
>>> cleaning viruses off Windows systems.
>>
>>But Linux has 'concept' viruseseses. Aren't they dangerous?
>
> It's not the virus that gets you. It's those extra "es"s. Once they're
> got your OS you might as well just give it up, especially if your
> computer decides to try to spell "Mississippi."
>
> Could take months.

Sorry, cat tap-dancing on my keyboard.





--
Half a bee, philosophically, must ipso facto half not be. But half
the bee has got to be, vis-Ã*-vis its entirety - d'you see? But can
a bee be said to be or not to be an entire bee when half the bee is
not a bee, due to some ancient injury?

On 2009-11-17, Mara <> wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:52:59 -0600, philo <> wrote:
>>Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>> William Poaster wrote:

[...]

>>>> Linux doesn't have viruses
>>>
>>> Utter rubbish and if you keep you head in the sand with that opinion you
>>> will have an infected system in no time.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Virus
>>>
>>
>>LOL
>>The link simply confirmed the Linux does not have virus problems
>
> Which is why I use it. It's quite a relief to use, after a day full of
> cleaning viruses off Windows systems.

If the nostalgia becomes unbearable, there are instructions on line for
creating a virus to run on Linux
<http://www.linuxsecurity.com/resource_files/documentation/virus-writing-HOWTO/_html/index.html>.
Sadly, the poor things are doomed every time.


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