Computer Support - If it is zero degrees outside now...

11-07-2009, 03:33 PM

In The Beginning God Created The Heavens And Earth, Then I Added My
Two Cents To The G. Morgan Post:
> If it is zero degrees outside now...
> ...and it's going to be twice as cold tomorrow
>
> ...how cold will it be
> grasshopper...
>
>
>
>
>
The grasshoppers have gone for the season, and twice a cold as Zero
is to Damn cold. Or is that on the Rector scale?

--
Old Gringo
Just West Of Nowhere
Enjoy Life And Live It To Its Fullest
http://www.NuBoy-Industries.com

OldGringo38

11-07-2009, 03:48 PM

Bada bing philo <> bada bang:
> Oldus Fartus wrote:
>> G. Morgan wrote:
>>> If it is zero degrees outside now...
>>> ...and it's going to be twice as cold tomorrow
>>>
>>> ...how cold will it be
>>> grasshopper...
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I am surprised nobody has asked how you would define twice as cold?
>>
>>
>
>
> not empirically "twice as cold"
>
> but mathematically
>
>
> such as 30 degrees F is twice as cold as 60 degrees F

Using Centigrade standard temperature is 20Â°C, so double the
difference from normal makes -20Â°C twice as cold.

Or you can go from 68Â°F and double the difference from 0Â°F giving
-68Â°F which is much colder.

The OP needs to define his terms and specify his measurement
system or we (TINW) will do it for him.

Mike "next July we'll do twice as hot" Yetto
--
In theory, theory and practice are the same.
In practice they are not.

Mike Yetto

11-07-2009, 04:07 PM

On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:50:42 -0600, philo <> wrote:
> G. Morgan wrote:
>> If it is zero degrees outside now...
>> ...and it's going to be twice as cold tomorrow
>>
>> ...how cold will it be
>> grasshopper...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Simple...
> just convert to Kelvin

....in other words, -136.7°C (halfway to 0°K).

--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey () Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Houston 4, Manitoba 1 (November 5)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, November 7 vs. San Antonio, 7:35

The Chief Instigator

11-07-2009, 04:10 PM

In The Beginning God Created The Heavens And Earth, Then I Added My
Two Cents To The G. Morgan Post:
> If it is zero degrees outside now...
> ...and it's going to be twice as cold tomorrow
>
> ...how cold will it be
> grasshopper...
>
>
>
>
>
The grasshoppers have gone for the season, and twice a cold as Zero
is to Damn cold. Or is that on the Richter scale?

--
Old Gringo
Just West Of Nowhere
Enjoy Life And Live It To Its Fullest
http://www.NuBoy-Industries.com

OldGringo38

11-07-2009, 05:43 PM

G. Morgan wrote:
> If it is zero degrees outside now...
> ...and it's going to be twice as cold tomorrow
>
> ...how cold will it be
> grasshopper...

Cold enough to freeze the "balls off a brass monkey" if you are talking
Fahrenheit.
At what temperature is F and C the same?
Buffalo

Buffalo

11-07-2009, 06:31 PM

On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:48:12 -0600, philo wrote:

> Oldus Fartus wrote:
>> philo wrote:
>>> Oldus Fartus wrote:
>>>> G. Morgan wrote:
>>>>> If it is zero degrees outside now...
>>>>> ...and it's going to be twice as cold tomorrow
>>>>>
>>>>> ...how cold will it be
>>>>> grasshopper...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I am surprised nobody has asked how you would define twice as cold?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> not empirically "twice as cold"
>>>
>>> but mathematically
>>>
>>>
>> No it isn't. "Cold" or "Hot" is not mathematical at all.
>>
>>
>>> such as 30 degrees F is twice as cold as 60 degrees F
>>
>> And again, no it is not. "Cold" or "Hot" are not absolute terms.
>>
>>
>
> I guess, when I think about it
> you are right there...
>
> for example
>
>
> when it goes from 70 F to 90 F to me, it seems twice as hot
>
>
> yet when the temperature drops from 10 below zero to 20 below zero
>
> not much difference

This is a temperature guide in Celsius:

At 10 below, your **** freezes when it hits the ground.

At 20 below, it freezes on the way down.

At 30 below, it's not a good idea to take a leak outside.

--
Elmo McElroy: If I wanted cuisine, I'd have gone to Paris
Felix DeSouza: You can still go to France. It's full of pricks. They hate
Yanks too. Do you fancy a bite, or what?
Elmo Mc Elroy: Yeah, all right.

Aardvark

11-07-2009, 06:36 PM

On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 10:43:32 -0700, Buffalo <> wrote:

> G. Morgan wrote:
>> If it is zero degrees outside now...
>> ...and it's going to be twice as cold tomorrow
>>
>> ...how cold will it be
>> grasshopper...
>
> Cold enough to freeze the "balls off a brass monkey" if you are talking
> Fahrenheit.
> At what temperature is F and C the same?
> Buffalo

-40°.

--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey () Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Houston 4, Manitoba 1 (November 5)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, November 7 vs. San Antonio, 7:35

The Chief Instigator

11-07-2009, 07:00 PM

On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:43:32 -0700, Buffalo wrote:

> G. Morgan wrote:
>> If it is zero degrees outside now...
>> ...and it's going to be twice as cold tomorrow
>>
>> ...how cold will it be
>> grasshopper...
>
> Cold enough to freeze the "balls off a brass monkey" if you are talking
> Fahrenheit.
> At what temperature is F and C the same? Buffalo

Minus 40. Everyone knows that, don't they?

--
Elmo McElroy: If I wanted cuisine, I'd have gone to Paris
Felix DeSouza: You can still go to France. It's full of pricks. They hate
Yanks too. Do you fancy a bite, or what?
Elmo Mc Elroy: Yeah, all right.

Aardvark

11-07-2009, 08:47 PM

Aardvark wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:48:12 -0600, philo wrote:
>
>> Oldus Fartus wrote:
>>> philo wrote:
>>>> Oldus Fartus wrote:
>>>>> G. Morgan wrote:
>>>>>> If it is zero degrees outside now...
>>>>>> ...and it's going to be twice as cold tomorrow
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...how cold will it be
>>>>>> grasshopper...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I am surprised nobody has asked how you would define twice as cold?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> not empirically "twice as cold"
>>>>
>>>> but mathematically
>>>>
>>>>
>>> No it isn't. "Cold" or "Hot" is not mathematical at all.
>>>
>>>
>>>> such as 30 degrees F is twice as cold as 60 degrees F
>>> And again, no it is not. "Cold" or "Hot" are not absolute terms.
>>>
>>>
>> I guess, when I think about it
>> you are right there...
>>
>> for example
>>
>>
>> when it goes from 70 F to 90 F to me, it seems twice as hot
>>
>>
>> yet when the temperature drops from 10 below zero to 20 below zero
>>
>> not much difference
>
> This is a temperature guide in Celsius:
>
> At 10 below, your **** freezes when it hits the ground.
>
> At 20 below, it freezes on the way down.
>
> At 30 below, it's not a good idea to take a leak outside.
>
>

>

at 60 below, in a 60 mph wind, a hot dog (or your finger) freezes
SOLID in 60 seconds!

RickMerrill

11-07-2009, 09:13 PM

"Aardvark" <> wrote in message
news:ntjJm.58727$2...
> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:43:32 -0700, Buffalo wrote:
>
>> G. Morgan wrote:
>>> If it is zero degrees outside now...
>>> ...and it's going to be twice as cold tomorrow
>>>
>>> ...how cold will it be
>>> grasshopper...
>>
>> Cold enough to freeze the "balls off a brass monkey" if you are talking
>> Fahrenheit.
>> At what temperature is F and C the same? Buffalo
>
> Minus 40. Everyone knows that, don't they?

And, knowing that, it's pretty easy to use the "plus 40, minus 40"
conversion formulas:

[(F + 40) x 5/9] - 40 = C
[(C + 40) x 9/5] - 40 = F

Because you don't have to remember whether to subtract or add or when to do
it, it's much handier, in my opinion, than the classic formulas:

(Â°F - 32) x 5/9 = Â°C
Â°C x 9/5 + 32 = Â°F

alan

11-07-2009, 03:48 PM	#12
Mike Yetto Posts: n/a	Re: If it is zero degrees outside now... Bada bing philo <> bada bang: > Oldus Fartus wrote: >> G. Morgan wrote: >>> If it is zero degrees outside now... >>> ...and it's going to be twice as cold tomorrow >>> >>> ...how cold will it be >>> grasshopper... >>> >>> >> >> I am surprised nobody has asked how you would define twice as cold? >> >> > > > not empirically "twice as cold" > > but mathematically > > > such as 30 degrees F is twice as cold as 60 degrees F Using Centigrade standard temperature is 20Â°C, so double the difference from normal makes -20Â°C twice as cold. Or you can go from 68Â°F and double the difference from 0Â°F giving -68Â°F which is much colder. The OP needs to define his terms and specify his measurement system or we (TINW) will do it for him. Mike "next July we'll do twice as hot" Yetto -- In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice they are not. Mike Yetto

11-07-2009, 04:07 PM	#13
The Chief Instigator Posts: n/a	Re: If it is zero degrees outside now... On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:50:42 -0600, philo <> wrote: > G. Morgan wrote: >> If it is zero degrees outside now... >> ...and it's going to be twice as cold tomorrow >> >> ...how cold will it be >> grasshopper... >> >> >> >> >> > > Simple... > just convert to Kelvin ....in other words, -136.7°C (halfway to 0°K). -- Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey () Houston, Texas www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273 LAST GAME: Houston 4, Manitoba 1 (November 5) NEXT GAME: Saturday, November 7 vs. San Antonio, 7:35 The Chief Instigator

11-07-2009, 04:10 PM	#14
OldGringo38 Posts: n/a	Re: If it is zero degrees outside now... In The Beginning God Created The Heavens And Earth, Then I Added My Two Cents To The G. Morgan Post: > If it is zero degrees outside now... > ...and it's going to be twice as cold tomorrow > > ...how cold will it be > grasshopper... > > > > > The grasshoppers have gone for the season, and twice a cold as Zero is to Damn cold. Or is that on the Richter scale? -- Old Gringo Just West Of Nowhere Enjoy Life And Live It To Its Fullest http://www.NuBoy-Industries.com OldGringo38

11-07-2009, 05:43 PM	#15
Buffalo Posts: n/a	Re: If it is zero degrees outside now... G. Morgan wrote: > If it is zero degrees outside now... > ...and it's going to be twice as cold tomorrow > > ...how cold will it be > grasshopper... Cold enough to freeze the "balls off a brass monkey" if you are talking Fahrenheit. At what temperature is F and C the same? Buffalo Buffalo

11-07-2009, 06:31 PM	#16
Aardvark Posts: n/a	Re: If it is zero degrees outside now... On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:48:12 -0600, philo wrote: > Oldus Fartus wrote: >> philo wrote: >>> Oldus Fartus wrote: >>>> G. Morgan wrote: >>>>> If it is zero degrees outside now... >>>>> ...and it's going to be twice as cold tomorrow >>>>> >>>>> ...how cold will it be >>>>> grasshopper... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I am surprised nobody has asked how you would define twice as cold? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> not empirically "twice as cold" >>> >>> but mathematically >>> >>> >> No it isn't. "Cold" or "Hot" is not mathematical at all. >> >> >>> such as 30 degrees F is twice as cold as 60 degrees F >> >> And again, no it is not. "Cold" or "Hot" are not absolute terms. >> >> > > I guess, when I think about it > you are right there... > > for example > > > when it goes from 70 F to 90 F to me, it seems twice as hot > > > yet when the temperature drops from 10 below zero to 20 below zero > > not much difference This is a temperature guide in Celsius: At 10 below, your **** freezes when it hits the ground. At 20 below, it freezes on the way down. At 30 below, it's not a good idea to take a leak outside. -- Elmo McElroy: If I wanted cuisine, I'd have gone to Paris Felix DeSouza: You can still go to France. It's full of pricks. They hate Yanks too. Do you fancy a bite, or what? Elmo Mc Elroy: Yeah, all right. Aardvark

11-07-2009, 03:33 PM	#11
	Re: If it is zero degrees outside now... In The Beginning God Created The Heavens And Earth, Then I Added My Two Cents To The G. Morgan Post: > If it is zero degrees outside now... > ...and it's going to be twice as cold tomorrow > > ...how cold will it be > grasshopper... > > > > > The grasshoppers have gone for the season, and twice a cold as Zero is to Damn cold. Or is that on the Rector scale? -- Old Gringo Just West Of Nowhere Enjoy Life And Live It To Its Fullest http://www.NuBoy-Industries.com OldGringo38

11-07-2009, 06:36 PM	#17
The Chief Instigator Posts: n/a	Re: If it is zero degrees outside now... On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 10:43:32 -0700, Buffalo <> wrote: > G. Morgan wrote: >> If it is zero degrees outside now... >> ...and it's going to be twice as cold tomorrow >> >> ...how cold will it be >> grasshopper... > > Cold enough to freeze the "balls off a brass monkey" if you are talking > Fahrenheit. > At what temperature is F and C the same? > Buffalo -40°. -- Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey () Houston, Texas www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273 LAST GAME: Houston 4, Manitoba 1 (November 5) NEXT GAME: Saturday, November 7 vs. San Antonio, 7:35 The Chief Instigator

11-07-2009, 07:00 PM	#18
Aardvark Posts: n/a	Re: If it is zero degrees outside now... On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:43:32 -0700, Buffalo wrote: > G. Morgan wrote: >> If it is zero degrees outside now... >> ...and it's going to be twice as cold tomorrow >> >> ...how cold will it be >> grasshopper... > > Cold enough to freeze the "balls off a brass monkey" if you are talking > Fahrenheit. > At what temperature is F and C the same? Buffalo Minus 40. Everyone knows that, don't they? -- Elmo McElroy: If I wanted cuisine, I'd have gone to Paris Felix DeSouza: You can still go to France. It's full of pricks. They hate Yanks too. Do you fancy a bite, or what? Elmo Mc Elroy: Yeah, all right. Aardvark

11-07-2009, 08:47 PM	#19
RickMerrill Posts: n/a	Re: If it is zero degrees outside now... Aardvark wrote: > On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:48:12 -0600, philo wrote: > >> Oldus Fartus wrote: >>> philo wrote: >>>> Oldus Fartus wrote: >>>>> G. Morgan wrote: >>>>>> If it is zero degrees outside now... >>>>>> ...and it's going to be twice as cold tomorrow >>>>>> >>>>>> ...how cold will it be >>>>>> grasshopper... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> I am surprised nobody has asked how you would define twice as cold? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> not empirically "twice as cold" >>>> >>>> but mathematically >>>> >>>> >>> No it isn't. "Cold" or "Hot" is not mathematical at all. >>> >>> >>>> such as 30 degrees F is twice as cold as 60 degrees F >>> And again, no it is not. "Cold" or "Hot" are not absolute terms. >>> >>> >> I guess, when I think about it >> you are right there... >> >> for example >> >> >> when it goes from 70 F to 90 F to me, it seems twice as hot >> >> >> yet when the temperature drops from 10 below zero to 20 below zero >> >> not much difference > > This is a temperature guide in Celsius: > > At 10 below, your **** freezes when it hits the ground. > > At 20 below, it freezes on the way down. > > At 30 below, it's not a good idea to take a leak outside. > > > at 60 below, in a 60 mph wind, a hot dog (or your finger) freezes SOLID in 60 seconds! RickMerrill

11-07-2009, 09:13 PM	#20
alan Posts: n/a	Re: If it is zero degrees outside now... "Aardvark" <> wrote in message news:ntjJm.58727$2... > On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:43:32 -0700, Buffalo wrote: > >> G. Morgan wrote: >>> If it is zero degrees outside now... >>> ...and it's going to be twice as cold tomorrow >>> >>> ...how cold will it be >>> grasshopper... >> >> Cold enough to freeze the "balls off a brass monkey" if you are talking >> Fahrenheit. >> At what temperature is F and C the same? Buffalo > > Minus 40. Everyone knows that, don't they? And, knowing that, it's pretty easy to use the "plus 40, minus 40" conversion formulas: [(F + 40) x 5/9] - 40 = C [(C + 40) x 9/5] - 40 = F Because you don't have to remember whether to subtract or add or when to do it, it's much handier, in my opinion, than the classic formulas: (Â°F - 32) x 5/9 = Â°C Â°C x 9/5 + 32 = Â°F alan

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