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I have a perplexing issue, I have four users set up on a W7 computer.
The program runs fine for all users except the admin user who needs it
for school assignments.

It's not a firewall issue as I've added localhost for pythomw.exe as allow.

I've done some data dumps using sysinternals process monitor and the
working users create a 7.8mb dump file and the file for the broken user
is only 1.04mb. I can send the zipped data dumps (XML) 384kb if someone
could have a look.

Python 2.6

Thanks
SD

Rhodri James wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:00:16 -0000, SD_V897 <> wrote:
>
>> I have a perplexing issue, I have four users set up on a W7 computer.
>> The program runs fine for all users except the admin user who needs it
>> for school assignments.
>
> A little more information, please. How does it not work for the admin
> user? Is there a traceback? What do you get if you try to invoke it
> from a command line?
>


Hi Rhodri, here's a dump file, don't know if this helps or not..

Thanks

SD

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IntegratorReportIdentifier=6a6f168d-bb8f-11de-bef3-044b80808003
Response.type=4
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UI[3]=pythonw.exe is not responding
UI[4]=Windows can check online for a solution. If you close the program,
you might lose information.
UI[5]=Check for a solution and close the program
UI[6]=Check for a solution and close the program
UI[7]=Close the program
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Drivers\SetPoint\lgscroll.dll
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AppName=pythonw.exe
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ReportDescription=A problem caused this program to stop interacting with
Windows.

On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:19:44 GMT, SD_V897 <>
declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general:

> AppPath=C:\Program Files\Utilities\Python Scripting v2.62\pythonw.exe

That's an interesting path... Did the install path for Python (from
either python.org or activestate) change that much from 2.5.x, or is
that a custom install path (and is it the same path for the accounts it
works in). Especially as there is no "v2.62" to my knowledge... a 2.6.2,
OTOH...

Now... I did change the upper level directory for mine (E:\; my C:
partition is rather packed, and I tend to install a lot of packages from
my user account), but the installer named top level was
"\Python25\pythonw.exe"


--
Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber KD6MOG
HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/

Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:19:44 GMT, SD_V897 <>
> declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general:
>
>> AppPath=C:\Program Files\Utilities\Python Scripting v2.62\pythonw.exe
>
> That's an interesting path... Did the install path for Python (from
> either python.org or activestate) change that much from 2.5.x, or is
> that a custom install path (and is it the same path for the accounts it
> works in). Especially as there is no "v2.62" to my knowledge... a 2.6.2,
> OTOH...
>
> Now... I did change the upper level directory for mine (E:\; my C:
> partition is rather packed, and I tend to install a lot of packages from
> my user account), but the installer named top level was
> "\Python25\pythonw.exe"
>
>

I've added the folder directory to my PATH statement and also tried
installing to the root but it doesn't make a difference. The 2.62 should
be 2.64 my bad..

SD

Rhodri James wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:19:44 -0000, SD_V897 <> wrote:
>
>> Rhodri James wrote:
>>> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:00:16 -0000, SD_V897 <>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a perplexing issue, I have four users set up on a W7
>>>> computer. The program runs fine for all users except the admin user
>>>> who needs it for school assignments.
>>> A little more information, please. How does it not work for the admin
>>> user? Is there a traceback? What do you get if you try to invoke it
>>> from a command line?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Rhodri, here's a dump file, don't know if this helps or not..
>
> So Windows is reporting a crash, then. I'll repeat my last question in
> particular; what happens when your admin user runs the program you're
> trying to invoke from the command line?
>

Hi Rhodri, Python Command-Line works fine. Are toy recommending to
invoke IDLE from there or from windows command line? Sorry I'm not to up
on Python is there a command that would run IDLE from command?

If I run idle.py -c -d

I get idle is not defined.

Thanks
SD

Rhodri James wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:39:46 -0000, SD_V897 <> wrote:

> No, I'm asking you -- or rather your admin user -- to invoke the program
> that is giving you grief from the command line, i.e. "python
> myscript.py", and tell me what happens. "It doesn't work" won't be
> considered at all helpful; without details we might as well just print
> out your script, throw darts at it, and tell you the problem is where
> the darts land.
>
> The rest of your answer however suggests that I've fundamentally
> misunderstood what you've said. Please tell me *exactly* what happens
> when it doesn't "run fine" for your admin user.
>

I fixed it for some reason deleting my idlerc folder allows it to work
again..

http://bugs.python.org/issue7206

Thanks everybody..

SD