Airplanes

These two didn't make the cut for the Shoot-In, but I'll link to them
here for the benefit of the people who like images of airplanes:

http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/Other/...78_PYYty-L.jpg

http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/Other/...56_D4NCU-L.jpg
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Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

tony cooper

On Oct 25, 8:07*pm, rwalker <rwal...@despammed.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 18:40:27 -0400, tony cooper
>
> <tony_cooper...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >These two didn't make the cut for the Shoot-In, but I'll link to them
> >here for the benefit of the people who like images of airplanes:
>
> >http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/Other/...ot/airplane2/6...
>
> >http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/Other/...ot/airplane1/6...
>
> The second one looks like a TBM. *What is that first one, a B29?

Not likely. B29s had four engines and were much much bigger.

My guess is a poorly rendered depiction of a B25.

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YOP...

Nervous Nick

On Oct 25, 6:38*pm, Nervous Nick <nervous.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > The second one looks like a TBM. *What is that first one, a B29?
>
> Not likely. *B29s had four engines and were much much bigger.
>
> My guess is a poorly rendered depiction of a B25.

Nope. Lockheed Ventura WW2 patrol bomber.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Ventura

Twibil

Savageduck wrote:
> On 2009-10-25 15:40:27 -0700, tony cooper
> <> said:
>
>> These two didn't make the cut for the Shoot-In, but I'll link to them
>> here for the benefit of the people who like images of airplanes:
>>
>> http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/Other/...78_PYYty-L.jpg
>
> OK.
>>
> I give up.
> It has the twin tail of a B-25, the nose section of an A-20 Havoc,
> bears a resemblance to the A-26 Invader (they both have single tails.)
> The closest seems to be the Handley Page Hampden, but that was never
> used by the US.
> So I guess this is a case of artistic license.

Looks to me like the night fighter version of the Lockheed Ventura.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PV...)-531_1943.jpg

>> http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/Other/...56_D4NCU-L.jpg
>
> This
>>
> looks to be a rendition of a Douglas Dauntless SBD with a section cut
> out of the fuselage.
>
> ...but as murals, not too bad.

J. Clarke

On Oct 26, 12:46*am, Twibil <nowayjo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 25, 6:38*pm, Nervous Nick <nervous.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > The second one looks like a TBM. *What is that first one, a B29?
>
> > Not likely. *B29s had four engines and were much much bigger.
>
> > My guess is a poorly rendered depiction of a B25.
>
> Nope. *Lockheed Ventura WW2 patrol bomber.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Ventura

Good call!

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YOP...

Nervous Nick

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:10:18 -0400, "Neil Harrington"
<> wrote:

>
>"Savageduck" <savageduck@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message
>news:2009102523413542612-savageduck@REMOVESPAMmecom...
>> On 2009-10-25 15:40:27 -0700, tony cooper <>
>> said:
>>
>>> These two didn't make the cut for the Shoot-In, but I'll link to them
>>> here for the benefit of the people who like images of airplanes:
>>>
>>> http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/Other/...78_PYYty-L.jpg
>>
>> OK.
>>>
>> I give up.
>> It has the twin tail of a B-25, the nose section of an A-20 Havoc, bears a
>> resemblance to the A-26 Invader (they both have single tails.) The closest
>> seems to be the Handley Page Hampden, but that was never used by the US.
>> So I guess this is a case of artistic license.
>
>No, it's a Lockheed, looks like some sort of military version of the old
>Electra. I don't know exactly what that would be, however.
>

I didn't anticipate the questions about the plane identification.
Next time I'm in DeLand I'll stop by the Visitor's Center where they
have a booklet available on the 13 murals on building walls in the
DeLand downtown. All commemorate some aspect of the history of the
city. The booklet may identify the planes.

I did find out, though, that the airplane murals commemorate the Naval
Air Station that was located in DeLand between 1942 and 1946. I also
found out that there's a Naval Airstation Museum in DeLand that I
didn't know about. I'll have to visit there.

According to Wiki, about the Naval Airstation, "The first planes were
Lockheed Venturas. They were not here for training, but were
patrolling the coast of Florida looking for German submarines. When
the SBD Dauntless dive bombers began to arrive, along with pilots and
crew members, the "Venturas" were reassigned to Brazil for patrol
duty. The "SBDs" were planes that were being replaced in the Pacific
fleet. It was the "SBD" that sank the four Japanese carriers at the
Battle of Midway."



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Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

tony cooper

On Oct 26, 7:24*pm, rwalker <rwal...@despammed.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks. *I always confuse the B29 and the B25. *Can't ever remember
> which is the 2 engine, and which is the 4 engine.

Easy way to remember: with four 2,200 hp engines, only the B-29 was
big enough to lift and deliver an atomic bomb.

Twibil

Twibil wrote:
> On Oct 26, 7:24 pm, rwalker <rwal...@despammed.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks. I always confuse the B29 and the B25. Can't ever remember
>> which is the 2 engine, and which is the 4 engine.
>
> Easy way to remember: with four 2,200 hp engines, only the B-29 was
> big enough to lift and deliver an atomic bomb.

Even easier: 4>2, 29>25

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Bertrand

Ofnuts

Neil Harrington wrote:
> "Ofnuts" <> wrote in message
> news:4ae6adc8$0$9076$...
>> Twibil wrote:
>>> On Oct 26, 7:24 pm, rwalker <rwal...@despammed.com> wrote:
>>>> Thanks. I always confuse the B29 and the B25. Can't ever remember
>>>> which is the 2 engine, and which is the 4 engine.
>>> Easy way to remember: with four 2,200 hp engines, only the B-29 was
>>> big enough to lift and deliver an atomic bomb.
>> Even easier: 4>2, 29>25
>
> But 25 > 24, which screws up that method.

We are talking about the B29 and B25. We will ignore the B24 for the
moment


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Bertrand

Ofnuts

On Oct 27, 9:22*am, Ofnuts <o.f.n.u....@la.poste.net> wrote:
>
>
> We are talking about the B29 and B25. We will ignore the B24 for the
> moment

That's what they said in Ploesti.

http://www.rustycans.com/Graphics/ploesti2.jpg

Twibil