Re: Locking in to IE8 vs IE7 using CSS?

On 06 Oct 2009, Jack <> wrote:

> I'm using the "CSS - The missing manual" book to learn, among many
> other reasons, how to get rid of tables and have CSS do all the work.
>
> To try to stay legal, I'll say here that the following quote came
> from that book.
>
> This is not about the book, it's about something they say.
>
> Here's the quote.
> ---------------------------------------------
> "But wait—there’s more! IE 8 can also pretend to be IE 7. When
> someone viewing
> your site in IE 8 clicks a “compatibility view” button, IE 8 goes
> into IE 7 mode, displaying
> pages without IE 8’s full CSS 2.1 goodness. The same thing happens if
> Microsoft puts your website onto its Compatibility View List—a list
> of sites that
> Microsoft has determined look better in IE 7 than in IE 8. If you’re
> designing a site
> using the guidelines in this book, you won’t want IE 8 to act like IE
> 7…ever.
> Fortunately, there’s a way to tell IE 8 to stop all this nonsense and
> just be IE 8.
> Adding a single META tag to a web page instructs IE 8 to ignore
> Compatibility
> View and the Compatibility View List and always display the page
> using its most
> standards-compliant mode:
>
> <meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=edge" />"
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
> I don't mean to get into the "FireFox versus IE" topic, but to me,
> this sounds like a good idea. If I'm going to do my best to make
> sure my website is the best and most current CSS ran site I can make
> it, I don't want Microsoft to come along and screw it up.
>
> What do you think?

The meta tag is probably a good idea but I'll venture to say that in a
relatively short time compared to past history ie7 won't be a
significant player in the browser game, anyway.

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IE8 totally screws CSS. unbelievable

Pedro Sousa

In article
<99a0e5a3-7f48-471c-8147->,
Pedro Sousa <> wrote:

> IE8 totally screws CSS. unbelievable

Talk about putting the icing on the cake of a no-URL post!

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dorayme

dorayme wrote:
> In article
> <99a0e5a3-7f48-471c-8147->,
> Pedro Sousa<> wrote:
>
>> IE8 totally screws CSS. unbelievable

Did Pedro have an epiphany?

>
> Talk about putting the icing on the cake of a no-URL post!
>

Well at lease these folks know what *they* are thinking...maybe...

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On 03 Nov 2009, Pedro Sousa <> wrote:

> IE8 totally screws CSS. unbelievable

No it doesn't. Yes, there are some mistakes, but all browsers have
some mistakes; I can show you mistakes in Opera which is touted as the
finest css-renderer out there. The one ie8 css "faux pas" that caused
me (non-trivial) problems so far related to hover in lists; other than
that, I can live with it fairly well. However, the question is will
they fix it (and other probs) in ie9? I've noticed that browsers tend
to carry some of the same admittedly-possibly-fairly obscure css errors
from version to version to version.

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> On 03 Nov 2009, Pedro Sousa <> wrote:
>
>> IE8 totally screws CSS. unbelievable
>
> No it doesn't. Yes, there are some mistakes, but all browsers have
> some mistakes; I can show you mistakes in Opera which is touted as the
> finest css-renderer out there.

Ah yes, Opera. position: absolute in a parent container that is also
absolutely positioned fails!

Nik Coughlin

In article <hcr3ti$svn$>,
"Nik Coughlin" <> wrote:

> "Neredbojias" <> wrote in message
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> > On 03 Nov 2009, Pedro Sousa <> wrote:
> >
> >> IE8 totally screws CSS. unbelievable
> >
> > No it doesn't. Yes, there are some mistakes, but all browsers have
> > some mistakes; I can show you mistakes in Opera which is touted as the
> > finest css-renderer out there.
>
> Ah yes, Opera. position: absolute in a parent container that is also
> absolutely positioned fails!

On my Opera 10 for Mac, for example,

#absolute {
position: absolute;
top: 50px;
left: 50px;
}

#absolutelyAbsolute {
position: absolute;
top: 0;
left: 0;
}

<div id="absolute">...
<p id="absolutelyAbsolute"><img src="pics/crimson.png"></p>
</div>


does not fail?

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dorayme

"dorayme" <> wrote in message
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> In article <hcr3ti$svn$>,
> "Nik Coughlin" <> wrote:
>
>> "Neredbojias" <> wrote in message
>> news: .net...
>> > On 03 Nov 2009, Pedro Sousa <> wrote:
>> >
>> >> IE8 totally screws CSS. unbelievable
>> >
>> > No it doesn't. Yes, there are some mistakes, but all browsers have
>> > some mistakes; I can show you mistakes in Opera which is touted as the
>> > finest css-renderer out there.
>>
>> Ah yes, Opera. position: absolute in a parent container that is also
>> absolutely positioned fails!
>
> On my Opera 10 for Mac, for example,
>
> #absolute {
> position: absolute;
> top: 50px;
> left: 50px;
> }
>
> #absolutelyAbsolute {
> position: absolute;
> top: 0;
> left: 0;
> }
>
> <div id="absolute">...
> <p id="absolutelyAbsolute"><img src="pics/crimson.png"></p>
> </div>
>
>
> does not fail?

Yes, it's conditional on using both top/bottom or left/right positioning
together

See:

http://nrkn.com/opera9Bug/
http://nrkn.com/opera9Bug/min/

And my original posting:
<http://groups.google.com/group/alt.html/browse_thread/thread/4b00c8815bfc8c5f>

Nik Coughlin

In article <hcr7bo$hln$>,
"Nik Coughlin" <> wrote:

> "dorayme"
> > "Nik Coughlin"

> >> Ah yes, Opera. position: absolute in a parent container that is also
> >> absolutely positioned fails!
> >
> > On my Opera 10 for Mac... [this above]
> >
> > does not fail?
>
> Yes, it's conditional on using both top/bottom or left/right positioning
> together
>
> See:
>
> http://nrkn.com/opera9Bug/
> http://nrkn.com/opera9Bug/min/
>
> And my original posting:
> <http://groups.google.com/group/alt.h...00c8815bfc8c5f
> >

OK, something complicated... that will teach me for picking up fag
ends... <g>

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dorayme

On 03 Nov 2009, "Nik Coughlin" <> wrote:

> "Neredbojias" <> wrote in message
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>> On 03 Nov 2009, Pedro Sousa <> wrote:
>>
>>> IE8 totally screws CSS. unbelievable
>>
>> No it doesn't. Yes, there are some mistakes, but all browsers have
>> some mistakes; I can show you mistakes in Opera which is touted as
>> the finest css-renderer out there.
>
> Ah yes, Opera. position: absolute in a parent container that is also
> absolutely positioned fails!

Ja, das iz it. And as you indicate in a later post, it's from *where*.
Positioning the child from the left is no problem but positioning it
from the right is screwing up the little overlay images in my movie
page. Shalzbutt!

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