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Old 10-04-2009, 05:21 PM   #1
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I have just passed 72-290 and i am now doing 70-291, I have got COMPTIA A+
and N+, i heard there are exemptions i can get on MCSA/MCSE what's the best
way forward


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Old 10-04-2009, 06:18 PM   #2
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On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:21:01 -0700,
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>what's the best way forward


Straight ahead.


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Old 10-04-2009, 06:36 PM   #3
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what i mean is what exemptions can i get and how do i apply for them.

"Paul Jones" wrote:

> On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:21:01 -0700,
> < .com> wrote:
>
> >what's the best way forward

>
> Straight ahead.
>



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Old 10-05-2009, 01:14 AM   #4
Lawrence Garvin [MVP]
 
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< .com> wrote in message
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>
> what i mean is what exemptions can i get and how do i apply for them.


There are no exemptions.

Certain CompTIA certifications can be used to fulfill the requirements of
the Elective Exam for the MCSA/MCSE certifications.

To use your CompTIA certs as elective credit for the MCSA/MCSE, you need to
ensure that they're recorded on your MCP transcript:
https://mcp.microsoft.com/mcp/tools/trans.aspx







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Old 10-05-2009, 02:47 AM   #5
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On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 19:14:26 -0500, "Lawrence Garvin [MVP]"
<> wrote:

>To use your CompTIA certs as elective credit for the MCSA/MCSE, you need to
>ensure that they're recorded on your MCP transcript:
>https://mcp.microsoft.com/mcp/tools/trans.aspx


No, he can only use them for an MCSA.
He has not got Security+, just A+ and N+ which can only be used towards
and MCSA. The Security+ is needed for MCSE (or MCSA:Security).


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Old 10-05-2009, 02:56 PM   #6
Lawrence Garvin [MVP]
 
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"Paul Jones" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 19:14:26 -0500, "Lawrence Garvin [MVP]"
> <> wrote:
>
>>To use your CompTIA certs as elective credit for the MCSA/MCSE, you need
>>to
>>ensure that they're recorded on your MCP transcript:
>>https://mcp.microsoft.com/mcp/tools/trans.aspx

>
> No, he can only use them for an MCSA.
> He has not got Security+, just A+ and N+ which can only be used towards
> and MCSA.


Hmm.. then somebody probably needs to tell Microsoft Learning to remove the
entry from the MSCE requirements page:
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en...mcse.aspx#tab2

Since the requirements page does not explicitly list the certifications
which are currently accepted, I presume you have an alternate published
location for which you can provide a reference link.




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Principal/CTO, Onsite Technology Solutions, Houston, Texas
Microsoft MVP - Software Distribution (2005-2009)

My Blog: http://onsitechsolutions.spaces.live.com
Microsoft WSUS Website: http://www.microsoft.com/wsus
My MVP Profile: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pro...awrence.Garvin



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Old 10-05-2009, 03:39 PM   #7
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On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:56:30 -0500, "Lawrence Garvin [MVP]"
<> wrote:

>"Paul Jones" <> wrote in message
>news:.. .
>> On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 19:14:26 -0500, "Lawrence Garvin [MVP]"
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>>To use your CompTIA certs as elective credit for the MCSA/MCSE, you need
>>>to
>>>ensure that they're recorded on your MCP transcript:
>>>https://mcp.microsoft.com/mcp/tools/trans.aspx

>>
>> No, he can only use them for an MCSA.
>> He has not got Security+, just A+ and N+ which can only be used towards
>> and MCSA.

>
>Hmm.. then somebody probably needs to tell Microsoft Learning to remove the
>entry from the MSCE requirements page:
>http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en...mcse.aspx#tab2
>
>Since the requirements page does not explicitly list the certifications
>which are currently accepted, I presume you have an alternate published
>location for which you can provide a reference link.



Well when I search Microsoft.com for:
comptia mcse mcsa partners

I do find one link in Australia that has the original requirement pages.
I know they (Ozzies) are a bit backward (or is that upside down) but I
am sure MS is the same there as anywhere:

Here is one result (second on page):

http://www.microsoft.com/australia/l.../partners.mspx


Now this information did use to be able to find on the MS site but since
MS decided they don't like the MCSA and MCSE anymore it is now near
impossible to find.


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Old 10-06-2009, 09:55 AM   #8
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On Oct 5, 10:39*am, Paul Jones <n...@news-only.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:56:30 -0500, "Lawrence Garvin [MVP]"
>
>
>
> <lawre...@news.postalias> wrote:
> >"Paul Jones" <n...@news-only.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
> >news:.. .
> >> On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 19:14:26 -0500, "Lawrence Garvin [MVP]"
> >> <lawre...@news.postalias> wrote:

>
> >>>To use your CompTIA certs as elective credit for the MCSA/MCSE, you need
> >>>to
> >>>ensure that they're recorded on your MCP transcript:
> >>>https://mcp.microsoft.com/mcp/tools/trans.aspx

>
> >> No, he can only use them for an MCSA.
> >> He has not got Security+, just A+ and N+ which can only be used towards
> >> and MCSA.

>
> >Hmm.. then somebody probably needs to tell Microsoft Learning to remove the
> >entry from the MSCE requirements page:
> >http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en...mcse.aspx#tab2

>
> >Since the requirements page does not explicitly list the certifications
> >which are currently accepted, I presume you have an alternate published
> >location for which you can provide a reference link.

>
> Well when I search Microsoft.com for:
> comptia mcse mcsa partners
>
> I do find one link in Australia that has the original requirement pages.
> I know they (Ozzies) are a bit backward (or is that upside down) but I
> am sure MS is the same there as anywhere:
>
> Here is one result (second on page):
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/australia/l.../partners.mspx
>
> Now this information did use to be able to find on the MS site but since
> MS decided they don't like the MCSA and MCSE anymore it is now near
> impossible to find.


Just to throw my two cents in, I was also provided the same
information that Paul Jones is providing in my New Horizons class. The
instructor stated that A+ and Net+ can be used to fill the elective
requirements of the MCSA portion, but they could not be "reused" to
apply to the MCSE. He stated that I would be required to take the Sec+
for the MCSE if I wanted to use it as an alternate elective.


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Old 10-06-2009, 11:37 PM   #9
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"Matrixx333" <> wrote in message
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> Just to throw my two cents in, I was also provided the same
> information that Paul Jones is providing in my New Horizons class. The
> instructor stated that A+ and Net+ can be used to fill the elective
> requirements of the MCSA portion, but they could not be "reused" to
> apply to the MCSE. He stated that I would be required to take the Sec+
> for the MCSE if I wanted to use it as an alternate elective.




That doesn't seem to make sense. There are several exams that are listed as
electives for both the MCSA and the MCSE, and they all can be "reused". In
fact, I believe that the only thing you have to do to "upgrade" an MCSA
(Win2003) to an MCSE (Win2003) is take the two extra core exams (70-293,
70-294), and one of the two design exams (70-297 or 70-29.



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Principal/CTO, Onsite Technology Solutions, Houston, Texas
Microsoft MVP - Software Distribution (2005-2009)

My Blog: http://onsitechsolutions.spaces.live.com
Microsoft WSUS Website: http://www.microsoft.com/wsus
My MVP Profile: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pro...awrence.Garvin



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Old 10-07-2009, 01:15 AM   #10
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On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:37:58 -0500, "Lawrence Garvin [MVP]"
<> wrote:

>"Matrixx333" <> wrote in message
>news:12ca3996-5beb-45fb-93da-...
>
>> Just to throw my two cents in, I was also provided the same
>> information that Paul Jones is providing in my New Horizons class. The
>> instructor stated that A+ and Net+ can be used to fill the elective
>> requirements of the MCSA portion, but they could not be "reused" to
>> apply to the MCSE. He stated that I would be required to take the Sec+
>> for the MCSE if I wanted to use it as an alternate elective.

>
>
>
>That doesn't seem to make sense. There are several exams that are listed as
>electives for both the MCSA and the MCSE, and they all can be "reused". In
>fact, I believe that the only thing you have to do to "upgrade" an MCSA
>(Win2003) to an MCSE (Win2003) is take the two extra core exams (70-293,
>70-294), and one of the two design exams (70-297 or 70-29.


Makes sense or not. You CANNOT use any CompTIA credential but Security+
as an elective for an MCSE.
This has always been the case.
The page that is on the Australian site is exactly the same one as used
to be on the main US site.
Do you think it is different just for an Australian MCSE? Of course not!


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