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Thanks Charlie. I have heard several good things about it. My greatest
concern is getting drivers and software to run on such a new OS. I have
fought that battle so many times. I get anxious to install the new OS and
then regret it because, as I said, drivers are not available and existing
software won't install/run on it.



"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> On the other hand, most of the regulars here seem to like Win7 a lot. I know
> I do. I'm running it on all my machines already that will support it. Only
> machine left at an earlier release is an old Tablet PC that really isn't up
> to Win7.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http:/msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>
>
> "Craig" <> wrote in message
> news:008BC674-4B99-41BA-93FC-...
> > Thanks for Win7 tip. I'll watch the posts a little longer before I
> > install it.
> >
> >
> > "Zootal" wrote:
> >
> >> Having a few OS's on my machine is not too much trouble . I keep XP32
> >> for
> >> when I need to restore XP64. I backup my windows, documents and settings,
> >> program files directories. When I do something stupid that breaks XP64, I
> >> boot to XP32 and restore the files ( I NEVER reformat just because I need
> >> to
> >> reinstall the OS). Win98 I never actually use, it's just sitting there. I
> >> had Vista for a while, but Vista to me was nothing more then another
> >> Windows
> >> ME. Same old pig with a fancier wrapper. I quickly went back to XP. I'm
> >> starting to look at Windows 7 the same way. Same old pig, fancier
> >> wrapper. I
> >> have it, but I don't use it and haven't decided if I'm going to. I keep
> >> linux around for when I need to do something there but I have a couple of
> >> other boxes with Linux for my Linux work - Linux on this machine mostly
> >> sits
> >> unused.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Craig" <> wrote in message
> >> news:2EB31504-593A-4262-8EF1-...
> >> > There is NO WAY I would even consider an VM on my wife's machine. It
> >> > would
> >> > blow her clean off the map. You're right, email, pictures, music, and
> >> > occasional Internet. I can't even get to check email more than about
> >> > once
> >> > a
> >> > week.
> >> >
> >> > It sounds like you need a few operating systems on your machine.
> >> > Goodness,
> >> > I would hate to think about keeping up with all that. So, how do you
> >> > like
> >> > 7?
> >> > I have it but haven't installed it yet. I'm wondering how many driver
> >> > and
> >> > software issues I would have?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Zootal" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Ah, I feel your pain. The only HP driver for my printer is a beta
> >> >> driver
> >> >> which likes to blue screen windows from time to time. HP recommended
> >> >> using a
> >> >> driver for an older printer that exists for XP64, and that is what I
> >> >> ended
> >> >> up doing. Works surprisingly well.
> >> >>
> >> >> Can't comment on iTunes, but yeah, I can see how that would be a deal
> >> >> breaker
> >> >>
> >> >> I have to use the CheckPoint VPN client, and there is no client for
> >> >> XP64.
> >> >> So
> >> >> I run Win2000 in a virtual machine, and run the 32 bit client there.
> >> >> This
> >> >> actually works out very well. I work in the client about twenty hours
> >> >> a
> >> >> week. I keep a backup of the VM, and don't have to dinker with my XP64
> >> >> installation to get the VPN client to work. I can also use the VM from
> >> >> any
> >> >> OS (I have five on this box - Windows 7 (eewww), XP64, XP32, Win98
> >> >> (just
> >> >> DOS), and Linux) except Win98.
> >> >>
> >> >> YMMV - I would not run XP64 on my wife's machine. She can handle email
> >> >> and
> >> >> internet, but that is about it. The pain of teaching her to use a VM
> >> >> to
> >> >> get
> >> >> iTunes to work (assuming it would even work in a VM) is more then I
> >> >> can
> >> >> bear
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Craig" <> wrote in message
> >> >> news:B795429A-5855-43C5-A7FD-...
> >> >> > Believe it or not, I am having to use an "older" version of some HP
> >> >> > printer
> >> >> > functionality software because some of the newer HP stuff won't run
> >> >> > on
> >> >> > XP
> >> >> > x64. Also, I've discovered that iTunes won't run on that OS either.
> >> >> > Since
> >> >> > this machine is used primarily by my wife, that is a crisis, if you
> >> >> > know
> >> >> > what
> >> >> > I mean. It was also a fiasco getting a driver for the EVGA GTS250
> >> >> > graphics
> >> >> > card. I finally did get that though.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Zootal" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Which drivers or software are not available or won't run?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Craig" <> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:04579DFF-466C-4A4F-9091-...
> >> >> >> >I have installed x64 on a new build machine. Since some of the
> >> >> >> >drivers
> >> >> >> >and
> >> >> >> > software are not available or won't run on this machine I now
> >> >> >> > regret
> >> >> >> > doing
> >> >> >> > so. Is it possible to "roll back" x64 to x86 or will I have to
> >> >> >> > reformat
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > start over? Thank you.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

I also see a higher acceptance level among those with lower skill levels and
those with less experience. Maybe it's mostly us old farts that have been
around a while that have lower acceptance levels? I'd be very interested in
seeing some demographics among acceptors and rejectors of Win 7.

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> On the other hand, most of the regulars here seem to like Win7 a lot. I
> know I do. I'm running it on all my machines already that will support it.
> Only machine left at an earlier release is an old Tablet PC that really
> isn't up to Win7.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http:/msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>
>
> "Craig" <> wrote in message
> news:008BC674-4B99-41BA-93FC-...
>> Thanks for Win7 tip. I'll watch the posts a little longer before I
>> install it.
>>
>>
>> "Zootal" wrote:
>>
>>> Having a few OS's on my machine is not too much trouble . I keep XP32
>>> for
>>> when I need to restore XP64. I backup my windows, documents and
>>> settings,
>>> program files directories. When I do something stupid that breaks XP64,
>>> I
>>> boot to XP32 and restore the files ( I NEVER reformat just because I
>>> need to
>>> reinstall the OS). Win98 I never actually use, it's just sitting there.
>>> I
>>> had Vista for a while, but Vista to me was nothing more then another
>>> Windows
>>> ME. Same old pig with a fancier wrapper. I quickly went back to XP. I'm
>>> starting to look at Windows 7 the same way. Same old pig, fancier
>>> wrapper. I
>>> have it, but I don't use it and haven't decided if I'm going to. I keep
>>> linux around for when I need to do something there but I have a couple
>>> of
>>> other boxes with Linux for my Linux work - Linux on this machine mostly
>>> sits
>>> unused.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Craig" <> wrote in message
>>> news:2EB31504-593A-4262-8EF1-...
>>> > There is NO WAY I would even consider an VM on my wife's machine. It
>>> > would
>>> > blow her clean off the map. You're right, email, pictures, music, and
>>> > occasional Internet. I can't even get to check email more than about
>>> > once
>>> > a
>>> > week.
>>> >
>>> > It sounds like you need a few operating systems on your machine.
>>> > Goodness,
>>> > I would hate to think about keeping up with all that. So, how do you
>>> > like
>>> > 7?
>>> > I have it but haven't installed it yet. I'm wondering how many driver
>>> > and
>>> > software issues I would have?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "Zootal" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Ah, I feel your pain. The only HP driver for my printer is a beta
>>> >> driver
>>> >> which likes to blue screen windows from time to time. HP recommended
>>> >> using a
>>> >> driver for an older printer that exists for XP64, and that is what I
>>> >> ended
>>> >> up doing. Works surprisingly well.
>>> >>
>>> >> Can't comment on iTunes, but yeah, I can see how that would be a deal
>>> >> breaker
>>> >>
>>> >> I have to use the CheckPoint VPN client, and there is no client for
>>> >> XP64.
>>> >> So
>>> >> I run Win2000 in a virtual machine, and run the 32 bit client there.
>>> >> This
>>> >> actually works out very well. I work in the client about twenty hours
>>> >> a
>>> >> week. I keep a backup of the VM, and don't have to dinker with my
>>> >> XP64
>>> >> installation to get the VPN client to work. I can also use the VM
>>> >> from
>>> >> any
>>> >> OS (I have five on this box - Windows 7 (eewww), XP64, XP32, Win98
>>> >> (just
>>> >> DOS), and Linux) except Win98.
>>> >>
>>> >> YMMV - I would not run XP64 on my wife's machine. She can handle
>>> >> email
>>> >> and
>>> >> internet, but that is about it. The pain of teaching her to use a VM
>>> >> to
>>> >> get
>>> >> iTunes to work (assuming it would even work in a VM) is more then I
>>> >> can
>>> >> bear
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> "Craig" <> wrote in message
>>> >> news:B795429A-5855-43C5-A7FD-...
>>> >> > Believe it or not, I am having to use an "older" version of some HP
>>> >> > printer
>>> >> > functionality software because some of the newer HP stuff won't run
>>> >> > on
>>> >> > XP
>>> >> > x64. Also, I've discovered that iTunes won't run on that OS
>>> >> > either.
>>> >> > Since
>>> >> > this machine is used primarily by my wife, that is a crisis, if you
>>> >> > know
>>> >> > what
>>> >> > I mean. It was also a fiasco getting a driver for the EVGA GTS250
>>> >> > graphics
>>> >> > card. I finally did get that though.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "Zootal" wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Which drivers or software are not available or won't run?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> "Craig" <> wrote in message
>>> >> >> news:04579DFF-466C-4A4F-9091-...
>>> >> >> >I have installed x64 on a new build machine. Since some of the
>>> >> >> >drivers
>>> >> >> >and
>>> >> >> > software are not available or won't run on this machine I now
>>> >> >> > regret
>>> >> >> > doing
>>> >> >> > so. Is it possible to "roll back" x64 to x86 or will I have to
>>> >> >> > reformat
>>> >> >> > and
>>> >> >> > start over? Thank you.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

Well, this has developed into quite a thread here, but I like the dicussion.
It would be interesting to see the demographics. Charlie, is such
information available? Would it be published if it is? Now, for the last
thing in my response here, Zootal, are you calling me old? (Kidding)


"Zootal" wrote:

> I also see a higher acceptance level among those with lower skill levels and
> those with less experience. Maybe it's mostly us old farts that have been
> around a while that have lower acceptance levels? I'd be very interested in
> seeing some demographics among acceptors and rejectors of Win 7.
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
> > On the other hand, most of the regulars here seem to like Win7 a lot. I
> > know I do. I'm running it on all my machines already that will support it.
> > Only machine left at an earlier release is an old Tablet PC that really
> > isn't up to Win7.
> >
> > --
> > Charlie.
> > http:/msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
> >
> >
> > "Craig" <> wrote in message
> > news:008BC674-4B99-41BA-93FC-...
> >> Thanks for Win7 tip. I'll watch the posts a little longer before I
> >> install it.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Zootal" wrote:
> >>
> >>> Having a few OS's on my machine is not too much trouble . I keep XP32
> >>> for
> >>> when I need to restore XP64. I backup my windows, documents and
> >>> settings,
> >>> program files directories. When I do something stupid that breaks XP64,
> >>> I
> >>> boot to XP32 and restore the files ( I NEVER reformat just because I
> >>> need to
> >>> reinstall the OS). Win98 I never actually use, it's just sitting there.
> >>> I
> >>> had Vista for a while, but Vista to me was nothing more then another
> >>> Windows
> >>> ME. Same old pig with a fancier wrapper. I quickly went back to XP. I'm
> >>> starting to look at Windows 7 the same way. Same old pig, fancier
> >>> wrapper. I
> >>> have it, but I don't use it and haven't decided if I'm going to. I keep
> >>> linux around for when I need to do something there but I have a couple
> >>> of
> >>> other boxes with Linux for my Linux work - Linux on this machine mostly
> >>> sits
> >>> unused.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Craig" <> wrote in message
> >>> news:2EB31504-593A-4262-8EF1-...
> >>> > There is NO WAY I would even consider an VM on my wife's machine. It
> >>> > would
> >>> > blow her clean off the map. You're right, email, pictures, music, and
> >>> > occasional Internet. I can't even get to check email more than about
> >>> > once
> >>> > a
> >>> > week.
> >>> >
> >>> > It sounds like you need a few operating systems on your machine.
> >>> > Goodness,
> >>> > I would hate to think about keeping up with all that. So, how do you
> >>> > like
> >>> > 7?
> >>> > I have it but haven't installed it yet. I'm wondering how many driver
> >>> > and
> >>> > software issues I would have?
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > "Zootal" wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> Ah, I feel your pain. The only HP driver for my printer is a beta
> >>> >> driver
> >>> >> which likes to blue screen windows from time to time. HP recommended
> >>> >> using a
> >>> >> driver for an older printer that exists for XP64, and that is what I
> >>> >> ended
> >>> >> up doing. Works surprisingly well.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Can't comment on iTunes, but yeah, I can see how that would be a deal
> >>> >> breaker
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I have to use the CheckPoint VPN client, and there is no client for
> >>> >> XP64.
> >>> >> So
> >>> >> I run Win2000 in a virtual machine, and run the 32 bit client there.
> >>> >> This
> >>> >> actually works out very well. I work in the client about twenty hours
> >>> >> a
> >>> >> week. I keep a backup of the VM, and don't have to dinker with my
> >>> >> XP64
> >>> >> installation to get the VPN client to work. I can also use the VM
> >>> >> from
> >>> >> any
> >>> >> OS (I have five on this box - Windows 7 (eewww), XP64, XP32, Win98
> >>> >> (just
> >>> >> DOS), and Linux) except Win98.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> YMMV - I would not run XP64 on my wife's machine. She can handle
> >>> >> email
> >>> >> and
> >>> >> internet, but that is about it. The pain of teaching her to use a VM
> >>> >> to
> >>> >> get
> >>> >> iTunes to work (assuming it would even work in a VM) is more then I
> >>> >> can
> >>> >> bear
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> "Craig" <> wrote in message
> >>> >> news:B795429A-5855-43C5-A7FD-...
> >>> >> > Believe it or not, I am having to use an "older" version of some HP
> >>> >> > printer
> >>> >> > functionality software because some of the newer HP stuff won't run
> >>> >> > on
> >>> >> > XP
> >>> >> > x64. Also, I've discovered that iTunes won't run on that OS
> >>> >> > either.
> >>> >> > Since
> >>> >> > this machine is used primarily by my wife, that is a crisis, if you
> >>> >> > know
> >>> >> > what
> >>> >> > I mean. It was also a fiasco getting a driver for the EVGA GTS250
> >>> >> > graphics
> >>> >> > card. I finally did get that though.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > "Zootal" wrote:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >> Which drivers or software are not available or won't run?
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> "Craig" <> wrote in message
> >>> >> >> news:04579DFF-466C-4A4F-9091-...
> >>> >> >> >I have installed x64 on a new build machine. Since some of the
> >>> >> >> >drivers
> >>> >> >> >and
> >>> >> >> > software are not available or won't run on this machine I now
> >>> >> >> > regret
> >>> >> >> > doing
> >>> >> >> > so. Is it possible to "roll back" x64 to x86 or will I have to
> >>> >> >> > reformat
> >>> >> >> > and
> >>> >> >> > start over? Thank you.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
>
>
>

I've seen no demographics. And I resist completely the idea that it's less
skilled users. The features that make Win7 a winner, IMO, are at least as
much about sophisticated users.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Craig" <> wrote in message
news:83BCC6FE-9809-44A0-9134-...
> Well, this has developed into quite a thread here, but I like the
> dicussion.
> It would be interesting to see the demographics. Charlie, is such
> information available? Would it be published if it is? Now, for the last
> thing in my response here, Zootal, are you calling me old? (Kidding)
>
>
> "Zootal" wrote:
>
>> I also see a higher acceptance level among those with lower skill levels
>> and
>> those with less experience. Maybe it's mostly us old farts that have been
>> around a while that have lower acceptance levels? I'd be very interested
>> in
>> seeing some demographics among acceptors and rejectors of Win 7.
>>
>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in message
>> news:%...
>> > On the other hand, most of the regulars here seem to like Win7 a lot. I
>> > know I do. I'm running it on all my machines already that will support
>> > it.
>> > Only machine left at an earlier release is an old Tablet PC that really
>> > isn't up to Win7.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Charlie.
>> > http:/msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>> >
>> >
>> > "Craig" <> wrote in message
>> > news:008BC674-4B99-41BA-93FC-...
>> >> Thanks for Win7 tip. I'll watch the posts a little longer before I
>> >> install it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Zootal" wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Having a few OS's on my machine is not too much trouble . I keep
>> >>> XP32
>> >>> for
>> >>> when I need to restore XP64. I backup my windows, documents and
>> >>> settings,
>> >>> program files directories. When I do something stupid that breaks
>> >>> XP64,
>> >>> I
>> >>> boot to XP32 and restore the files ( I NEVER reformat just because I
>> >>> need to
>> >>> reinstall the OS). Win98 I never actually use, it's just sitting
>> >>> there.
>> >>> I
>> >>> had Vista for a while, but Vista to me was nothing more then another
>> >>> Windows
>> >>> ME. Same old pig with a fancier wrapper. I quickly went back to XP.
>> >>> I'm
>> >>> starting to look at Windows 7 the same way. Same old pig, fancier
>> >>> wrapper. I
>> >>> have it, but I don't use it and haven't decided if I'm going to. I
>> >>> keep
>> >>> linux around for when I need to do something there but I have a
>> >>> couple
>> >>> of
>> >>> other boxes with Linux for my Linux work - Linux on this machine
>> >>> mostly
>> >>> sits
>> >>> unused.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> "Craig" <> wrote in message
>> >>> news:2EB31504-593A-4262-8EF1-...
>> >>> > There is NO WAY I would even consider an VM on my wife's machine.
>> >>> > It
>> >>> > would
>> >>> > blow her clean off the map. You're right, email, pictures, music,
>> >>> > and
>> >>> > occasional Internet. I can't even get to check email more than
>> >>> > about
>> >>> > once
>> >>> > a
>> >>> > week.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > It sounds like you need a few operating systems on your machine.
>> >>> > Goodness,
>> >>> > I would hate to think about keeping up with all that. So, how do
>> >>> > you
>> >>> > like
>> >>> > 7?
>> >>> > I have it but haven't installed it yet. I'm wondering how many
>> >>> > driver
>> >>> > and
>> >>> > software issues I would have?
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > "Zootal" wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> Ah, I feel your pain. The only HP driver for my printer is a beta
>> >>> >> driver
>> >>> >> which likes to blue screen windows from time to time. HP
>> >>> >> recommended
>> >>> >> using a
>> >>> >> driver for an older printer that exists for XP64, and that is what
>> >>> >> I
>> >>> >> ended
>> >>> >> up doing. Works surprisingly well.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Can't comment on iTunes, but yeah, I can see how that would be a
>> >>> >> deal
>> >>> >> breaker
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> I have to use the CheckPoint VPN client, and there is no client
>> >>> >> for
>> >>> >> XP64.
>> >>> >> So
>> >>> >> I run Win2000 in a virtual machine, and run the 32 bit client
>> >>> >> there.
>> >>> >> This
>> >>> >> actually works out very well. I work in the client about twenty
>> >>> >> hours
>> >>> >> a
>> >>> >> week. I keep a backup of the VM, and don't have to dinker with my
>> >>> >> XP64
>> >>> >> installation to get the VPN client to work. I can also use the VM
>> >>> >> from
>> >>> >> any
>> >>> >> OS (I have five on this box - Windows 7 (eewww), XP64, XP32, Win98
>> >>> >> (just
>> >>> >> DOS), and Linux) except Win98.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> YMMV - I would not run XP64 on my wife's machine. She can handle
>> >>> >> email
>> >>> >> and
>> >>> >> internet, but that is about it. The pain of teaching her to use a
>> >>> >> VM
>> >>> >> to
>> >>> >> get
>> >>> >> iTunes to work (assuming it would even work in a VM) is more then
>> >>> >> I
>> >>> >> can
>> >>> >> bear
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> "Craig" <> wrote in message
>> >>> >> news:B795429A-5855-43C5-A7FD-...
>> >>> >> > Believe it or not, I am having to use an "older" version of some
>> >>> >> > HP
>> >>> >> > printer
>> >>> >> > functionality software because some of the newer HP stuff won't
>> >>> >> > run
>> >>> >> > on
>> >>> >> > XP
>> >>> >> > x64. Also, I've discovered that iTunes won't run on that OS
>> >>> >> > either.
>> >>> >> > Since
>> >>> >> > this machine is used primarily by my wife, that is a crisis, if
>> >>> >> > you
>> >>> >> > know
>> >>> >> > what
>> >>> >> > I mean. It was also a fiasco getting a driver for the EVGA
>> >>> >> > GTS250
>> >>> >> > graphics
>> >>> >> > card. I finally did get that though.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > "Zootal" wrote:
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >> Which drivers or software are not available or won't run?
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> "Craig" <> wrote in message
>> >>> >> >> news:04579DFF-466C-4A4F-9091-...
>> >>> >> >> >I have installed x64 on a new build machine. Since some of
>> >>> >> >> >the
>> >>> >> >> >drivers
>> >>> >> >> >and
>> >>> >> >> > software are not available or won't run on this machine I now
>> >>> >> >> > regret
>> >>> >> >> > doing
>> >>> >> >> > so. Is it possible to "roll back" x64 to x86 or will I have
>> >>> >> >> > to
>> >>> >> >> > reformat
>> >>> >> >> > and
>> >>> >> >> > start over? Thank you.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >
>>
>>
>>

Thanks Charlie.



"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> I've seen no demographics. And I resist completely the idea that it's less
> skilled users. The features that make Win7 a winner, IMO, are at least as
> much about sophisticated users.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "Craig" <> wrote in message
> news:83BCC6FE-9809-44A0-9134-...
> > Well, this has developed into quite a thread here, but I like the
> > dicussion.
> > It would be interesting to see the demographics. Charlie, is such
> > information available? Would it be published if it is? Now, for the last
> > thing in my response here, Zootal, are you calling me old? (Kidding)
> >
> >
> > "Zootal" wrote:
> >
> >> I also see a higher acceptance level among those with lower skill levels
> >> and
> >> those with less experience. Maybe it's mostly us old farts that have been
> >> around a while that have lower acceptance levels? I'd be very interested
> >> in
> >> seeing some demographics among acceptors and rejectors of Win 7.
> >>
> >> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in message
> >> news:%...
> >> > On the other hand, most of the regulars here seem to like Win7 a lot. I
> >> > know I do. I'm running it on all my machines already that will support
> >> > it.
> >> > Only machine left at an earlier release is an old Tablet PC that really
> >> > isn't up to Win7.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Charlie.
> >> > http:/msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Craig" <> wrote in message
> >> > news:008BC674-4B99-41BA-93FC-...
> >> >> Thanks for Win7 tip. I'll watch the posts a little longer before I
> >> >> install it.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Zootal" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Having a few OS's on my machine is not too much trouble . I keep
> >> >>> XP32
> >> >>> for
> >> >>> when I need to restore XP64. I backup my windows, documents and
> >> >>> settings,
> >> >>> program files directories. When I do something stupid that breaks
> >> >>> XP64,
> >> >>> I
> >> >>> boot to XP32 and restore the files ( I NEVER reformat just because I
> >> >>> need to
> >> >>> reinstall the OS). Win98 I never actually use, it's just sitting
> >> >>> there.
> >> >>> I
> >> >>> had Vista for a while, but Vista to me was nothing more then another
> >> >>> Windows
> >> >>> ME. Same old pig with a fancier wrapper. I quickly went back to XP.
> >> >>> I'm
> >> >>> starting to look at Windows 7 the same way. Same old pig, fancier
> >> >>> wrapper. I
> >> >>> have it, but I don't use it and haven't decided if I'm going to. I
> >> >>> keep
> >> >>> linux around for when I need to do something there but I have a
> >> >>> couple
> >> >>> of
> >> >>> other boxes with Linux for my Linux work - Linux on this machine
> >> >>> mostly
> >> >>> sits
> >> >>> unused.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "Craig" <> wrote in message
> >> >>> news:2EB31504-593A-4262-8EF1-...
> >> >>> > There is NO WAY I would even consider an VM on my wife's machine.
> >> >>> > It
> >> >>> > would
> >> >>> > blow her clean off the map. You're right, email, pictures, music,
> >> >>> > and
> >> >>> > occasional Internet. I can't even get to check email more than
> >> >>> > about
> >> >>> > once
> >> >>> > a
> >> >>> > week.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > It sounds like you need a few operating systems on your machine.
> >> >>> > Goodness,
> >> >>> > I would hate to think about keeping up with all that. So, how do
> >> >>> > you
> >> >>> > like
> >> >>> > 7?
> >> >>> > I have it but haven't installed it yet. I'm wondering how many
> >> >>> > driver
> >> >>> > and
> >> >>> > software issues I would have?
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > "Zootal" wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >> Ah, I feel your pain. The only HP driver for my printer is a beta
> >> >>> >> driver
> >> >>> >> which likes to blue screen windows from time to time. HP
> >> >>> >> recommended
> >> >>> >> using a
> >> >>> >> driver for an older printer that exists for XP64, and that is what
> >> >>> >> I
> >> >>> >> ended
> >> >>> >> up doing. Works surprisingly well.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Can't comment on iTunes, but yeah, I can see how that would be a
> >> >>> >> deal
> >> >>> >> breaker
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> I have to use the CheckPoint VPN client, and there is no client
> >> >>> >> for
> >> >>> >> XP64.
> >> >>> >> So
> >> >>> >> I run Win2000 in a virtual machine, and run the 32 bit client
> >> >>> >> there.
> >> >>> >> This
> >> >>> >> actually works out very well. I work in the client about twenty
> >> >>> >> hours
> >> >>> >> a
> >> >>> >> week. I keep a backup of the VM, and don't have to dinker with my
> >> >>> >> XP64
> >> >>> >> installation to get the VPN client to work. I can also use the VM
> >> >>> >> from
> >> >>> >> any
> >> >>> >> OS (I have five on this box - Windows 7 (eewww), XP64, XP32, Win98
> >> >>> >> (just
> >> >>> >> DOS), and Linux) except Win98.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> YMMV - I would not run XP64 on my wife's machine. She can handle
> >> >>> >> email
> >> >>> >> and
> >> >>> >> internet, but that is about it. The pain of teaching her to use a
> >> >>> >> VM
> >> >>> >> to
> >> >>> >> get
> >> >>> >> iTunes to work (assuming it would even work in a VM) is more then
> >> >>> >> I
> >> >>> >> can
> >> >>> >> bear
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> "Craig" <> wrote in message
> >> >>> >> news:B795429A-5855-43C5-A7FD-...
> >> >>> >> > Believe it or not, I am having to use an "older" version of some
> >> >>> >> > HP
> >> >>> >> > printer
> >> >>> >> > functionality software because some of the newer HP stuff won't
> >> >>> >> > run
> >> >>> >> > on
> >> >>> >> > XP
> >> >>> >> > x64. Also, I've discovered that iTunes won't run on that OS
> >> >>> >> > either.
> >> >>> >> > Since
> >> >>> >> > this machine is used primarily by my wife, that is a crisis, if
> >> >>> >> > you
> >> >>> >> > know
> >> >>> >> > what
> >> >>> >> > I mean. It was also a fiasco getting a driver for the EVGA
> >> >>> >> > GTS250
> >> >>> >> > graphics
> >> >>> >> > card. I finally did get that though.
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > "Zootal" wrote:
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >> Which drivers or software are not available or won't run?
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> "Craig" <> wrote in message
> >> >>> >> >> news:04579DFF-466C-4A4F-9091-...
> >> >>> >> >> >I have installed x64 on a new build machine. Since some of
> >> >>> >> >> >the
> >> >>> >> >> >drivers
> >> >>> >> >> >and
> >> >>> >> >> > software are not available or won't run on this machine I now
> >> >>> >> >> > regret
> >> >>> >> >> > doing
> >> >>> >> >> > so. Is it possible to "roll back" x64 to x86 or will I have
> >> >>> >> >> > to
> >> >>> >> >> > reformat
> >> >>> >> >> > and
> >> >>> >> >> > start over? Thank you.
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

Installed win7 a few days ago, and I am surprised at how "few" problems. The
install DVD iso I received via the Microsoft Action Partner program for the
x64 version recognized all my programs and converted the OS (dare I say it?)
flawlessly. Only two issues.

One is that I had/have to re-enter the registration keys for just about all
the installed programs. Not a big issue.

The second was with an HP supplied print driver for a Xerox printer. After
much playing around I discovered that downloading the errand drivers from
Xerox (errand because they do not support win7 yet), setting the properties
to be compatible with XP x64 (the spec for the downloaded driver), setting
the properties to run as Administrator, installing the errand driver (to get
some bits and pieces that win7 doesn't have yet, or so it seems), and then
replacing the errand driver with the driver installed with win7. Sounds
convoluted, but it works repeatedly.

Most programs work fine, and when they didn't I changed the properties to
have the programs run in the XP x64 compatibility mode, and as administrator.
That has so far worked all the time.

Hope this helps,
kdsdata