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Michael Fesser
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      08-31-2009
..oO(Jonathan N. Little)

>SAZ wrote:
>> In article <h7dte4$u4d$(E-Mail Removed)-september.org>,
>> http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/(E-Mail Removed) says...
>>> Ganesh wrote:
>>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/html5-diff/#introduction
>>>>
>>>> I've just started looking into HTML5 and am trying to see that from
>>>> accessibility point of view. Is it the right time to switch over? Or,
>>>> is it better to use the well developed conventional practice for now?
>>>>
>>>> Anybody already switched over?
>>> What business are you in?
>>>
>>>

>> For everything Ganesh is trying to achieve and for everything he claims
>> to already know, I feel as if he is only learning it recently in this
>> forum.

>
>When will SEO be added to his list of services?


After he has looked up the term in Wikipedia?

SCNR
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Adrienne Boswell
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      08-31-2009
Gazing into my crystal ball I observed "Jonathan N. Little"
<(E-Mail Removed)> writing in news:h7gu8p$40j$(E-Mail Removed)-
september.org:

> SAZ wrote:
>> In article <h7dte4$u4d$(E-Mail Removed)-september.org>,
>> (E-Mail Removed) says...
>>> Ganesh wrote:
>>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/html5-diff/#introduction
>>>>
>>>> I've just started looking into HTML5 and am trying to see that from
>>>> accessibility point of view. Is it the right time to switch over? Or,
>>>> is it better to use the well developed conventional practice for now?
>>>>
>>>> Anybody already switched over?
>>> What business are you in?
>>>
>>>

>> For everything Ganesh is trying to achieve and for everything he claims
>> to already know, I feel as if he is only learning it recently in this
>> forum.

>
> When will SEO be added to his list of services?
>


Already is - http://seashell.co.in/

He still hasn't fixed the wording on the logo either.

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Ganesh
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      09-01-2009
On Sep 1, 12:56*am, Harlan Messinger
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Why in the world would you think that what Google does has necessarily
> become a good idea? Are you also going to build validation errors into
> your code because that's what Google does? Especially when, as has
> already been explained to you, the definition of HTML 5 hasn't even been
> *finished* yet. So whatever Google has decided to play with is premature.


If you have carefully watched http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html
You will see
=====
Editors:
Ian Hickson, Google, Inc.
David Hyatt, Apple, Inc.
=====

That's the very reason google.com's implementing it
 
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Ganesh
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      09-01-2009
On Sep 1, 7:44*am, Ganesh <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> On Sep 1, 12:56*am, Harlan Messinger
>
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > Why in the world would you think that what Google does has necessarily
> > become a good idea? Are you also going to build validation errors into
> > your code because that's what Google does? Especially when, as has
> > already been explained to you, the definition of HTML 5 hasn't even been
> > *finished* yet. So whatever Google has decided to play with is premature.

>
> If you have carefully watchedhttp://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html
> You will see
> =====
> Editors:
> * * Ian Hickson, Google, Inc.
> * * David Hyatt, Apple, Inc.
> =====
>
> That's the very reason google.com's implementing it


I see this with apple.com as well

====
Encoding: utf-8
Doctype: HTML5
Root Element: html
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Ganesh
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      09-01-2009
On Sep 1, 8:20*am, Ganesh <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> On Sep 1, 7:44*am, Ganesh <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sep 1, 12:56*am, Harlan Messinger

>
> > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > > Why in the world would you think that what Google does has necessarily
> > > become a good idea? Are you also going to build validation errors into
> > > your code because that's what Google does? Especially when, as has
> > > already been explained to you, the definition of HTML 5 hasn't even been
> > > *finished* yet. So whatever Google has decided to play with is premature.

>
> > If you have carefully watchedhttp://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html
> > You will see
> > =====
> > Editors:
> > * * Ian Hickson, Google, Inc.
> > * * David Hyatt, Apple, Inc.
> > =====

>
> > That's the very reason google.com's implementing it

>
> I see this with apple.com as well
>
> ====
> Encoding: * * * utf-8
> Doctype: * * * *HTML5
> Root Element: * html
> ====


But they use <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en-
us" lang="en-us"> .. that's strange
 
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Harlan Messinger
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      09-01-2009
Ganesh wrote:
> On Sep 1, 12:56 am, Harlan Messinger
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Why in the world would you think that what Google does has necessarily
>> become a good idea? Are you also going to build validation errors into
>> your code because that's what Google does? Especially when, as has
>> already been explained to you, the definition of HTML 5 hasn't even been
>> *finished* yet. So whatever Google has decided to play with is premature.

>
> If you have carefully watched http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html
> You will see
> =====
> Editors:
> Ian Hickson, Google, Inc.
> David Hyatt, Apple, Inc.
> =====
>
> That's the very reason google.com's implementing it


As has been pointed out to you, Google isn't implementing it. All they
have done is use the simplified doctype directive. In case it's escaped
you, it wouldn't do them any good to implement anything that browsers
have no idea what to do with.
 
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Harlan Messinger
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      09-01-2009
Ganesh wrote:
> On Sep 1, 8:20 am, Ganesh <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> On Sep 1, 7:44 am, Ganesh <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 1, 12:56 am, Harlan Messinger
>>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>> Why in the world would you think that what Google does has necessarily
>>>> become a good idea? Are you also going to build validation errors into
>>>> your code because that's what Google does? Especially when, as has
>>>> already been explained to you, the definition of HTML 5 hasn't even been
>>>> *finished* yet. So whatever Google has decided to play with is premature.
>>> If you have carefully watchedhttp://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html
>>> You will see
>>> =====
>>> Editors:
>>> Ian Hickson, Google, Inc.
>>> David Hyatt, Apple, Inc.
>>> =====
>>> That's the very reason google.com's implementing it

>> I see this with apple.com as well
>>
>> ====
>> Encoding: utf-8
>> Doctype: HTML5
>> Root Element: html
>> ====

>
> But they use <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en-
> us" lang="en-us"> .. that's strange


Right. And the home page has six validation errors. In fact, the Apple
home page has

<script language="text/javascript">

which is missing the type attribute that was required even in HTML 4.01,
and despite the XHTML attributes in the <html> tag, they have unclosed
<input> and <img> tags. So can you please stop telling us that these
companies are implementing HTML 5 on their websites when they aren't
implementing ANY one version of HTML but have a mix of constructions
from a variety of versions?
 
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Jan C. Faerber
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      09-01-2009
X-No-Archive

On 30 Aug., 06:59, Ganesh <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> http://www.w3.org/TR/html5-diff/#introduction
>
> I've just started looking into HTML5 and am trying to see that from
> accessibility point of view. Is it the right time to switch over? Or,
> is it better to use the well developed conventional practice for now?
>
> Anybody already switched over?


http://www.youtube.com/html5

If you want to be a switch then you have to do both: html5 and
sometimes no html5

My wish for HTML7 would be that you can choose the language in which
you can use the tags. (o;
Or maybe that should be posted to adobe's mind mapping for DW++
 
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SAZ
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      09-02-2009
In article <Xns9C78AB21377Aarbpenyahoocom@188.40.43.213>,
(E-Mail Removed) says...
> Gazing into my crystal ball I observed "Jonathan N. Little"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> writing in news:h7gu8p$40j$(E-Mail Removed)-
> september.org:
>
> > SAZ wrote:
> >> In article <h7dte4$u4d$(E-Mail Removed)-september.org>,
> >> (E-Mail Removed) says...
> >>> Ganesh wrote:
> >>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/html5-diff/#introduction
> >>>>
> >>>> I've just started looking into HTML5 and am trying to see that from
> >>>> accessibility point of view. Is it the right time to switch over? Or,
> >>>> is it better to use the well developed conventional practice for now?
> >>>>
> >>>> Anybody already switched over?
> >>> What business are you in?
> >>>
> >>>
> >> For everything Ganesh is trying to achieve and for everything he claims
> >> to already know, I feel as if he is only learning it recently in this
> >> forum.

> >
> > When will SEO be added to his list of services?
> >

>
> Already is - http://seashell.co.in/
>
> He still hasn't fixed the wording on the logo either.
>
>

So it appears I'm correct - this group is currently teaching him
everything he needs to know.

Is it time to cut the cord yet?
 
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Ganesh
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      09-03-2009
On Sep 3, 12:52*am, SAZ <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> In article <Xns9C78AB21377Aarbpenyahoo...@188.40.43.213>,
> (E-Mail Removed) says...
>
> > Gazing into my crystal ball I observed "Jonathan N. Little"
> > <(E-Mail Removed)> writing innews:h7gu8p$40j$(E-Mail Removed)-
> > september.org:

>
> > > SAZ wrote:
> > >> In article <h7dte4$(E-Mail Removed)-september.org>,
> > >> (E-Mail Removed) says...
> > >>> Ganesh wrote:
> > >>>>http://www.w3.org/TR/html5-diff/#introduction

>
> > >>>> I've just started looking into HTML5 and am trying to see that from
> > >>>> accessibility point of view. Is it the right time to switch over? Or,
> > >>>> is it better to use the well developed conventional practice for now?

>
> > >>>> Anybody already switched over?
> > >>> What business are you in?

>
> > >> For everything Ganesh is trying to achieve and for everything he claims
> > >> to already know, I feel as if he is only learning it recently in this
> > >> forum.

>
> > > When will SEO be added to his list of services?

>
> > Already is -http://seashell.co.in/

>
> > He still hasn't fixed the wording on the logo either.

>
> So it appears I'm correct - this group is currently teaching him
> everything he needs to know.


I thought that's what the groups are for. I've learn most of it I know
from here. I did share some too. I do sometimes pickup things on my
own as well.
 
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