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I'm using Win 7 x64 and initially installed by the Upgrade method. The only
area I had any difficulty with was networking... my adapter would "drop out"
randomly and Win7 would attempt to reset it leading to a computer lock up. I
won't go through all the details in this post, but let's just point out that
one of the suggested repairs may be to Clean Install Win7.

So, that is what I just accomplished.
What changed?
Well, neither the PCI or USB adapter drops out anymore, but even though
the device setting enables IPv6, the function is not in use. My wireless
connection states Excellent connection, yet downloads are severely limited
in speed. I've tried the MS driver and the vendor's driver. Neither improve
the situation for either network card.

As a side note, the upgrade had no problems incorporating my coprocessors
and audio devices. The clean install could not figure out what they were and
subsequently could not download any drivers. When I did install the drivers,
I was provided warnings they were not signed! This included WHQL nVidia
drivers, which are signed.

Bottom line:
Yes, there is a difference between an Upgrade and a Clean Install and the
later is not necessarily better as I'm still having networking issues.

Mark,
Me and others prefer clean install but before that you always have to do
your homework and clearly identify your hardware parts, whether add-ins or
embedded chipsets.
Then get the drivers and only after then do the clean install.
But there is still hope, please describe your hardware more thoroughly and
you will surely find help here or in the web.
There are WHQL Win 7 drivers for a great list of hardware.
Carlos

"Mark H" wrote:

> I'm using Win 7 x64 and initially installed by the Upgrade method. The only
> area I had any difficulty with was networking... my adapter would "drop out"
> randomly and Win7 would attempt to reset it leading to a computer lock up. I
> won't go through all the details in this post, but let's just point out that
> one of the suggested repairs may be to Clean Install Win7.
>
> So, that is what I just accomplished.
> What changed?
> Well, neither the PCI or USB adapter drops out anymore, but even though
> the device setting enables IPv6, the function is not in use. My wireless
> connection states Excellent connection, yet downloads are severely limited
> in speed. I've tried the MS driver and the vendor's driver. Neither improve
> the situation for either network card.
>
> As a side note, the upgrade had no problems incorporating my coprocessors
> and audio devices. The clean install could not figure out what they were and
> subsequently could not download any drivers. When I did install the drivers,
> I was provided warnings they were not signed! This included WHQL nVidia
> drivers, which are signed.
>
> Bottom line:
> Yes, there is a difference between an Upgrade and a Clean Install and the
> later is not necessarily better as I'm still having networking issues.
>
>

Thanks Carlos, and I agree... there is a lot of good help in here.

My comments were relating my experience between the two installs. I used
Win7 drivers (where available) and found it odd that there would be a
difference in the final responses.

No one, on LinkSys, Win7 forums or here have solved the "drop out" issue
with Wireless USB adapters. (It's not limited to LinkSys.) Win7 seems to
handle USB port power and networking differently than before and some (not
all) have what can best be described as a lack of power to the adapter (PCI
or USB.)

On my machine, I finally overcame it (somewhat) by turning off a feature
within the device driver that allowed it to minimize power during non-use.
(Note: This didn't work if Win7 settings for Power Save mode were disabled
instead.) This doesn't work for others.

After the clean install, IPv6 doesn't work. The mode is turned on for the
device, but when the properties of the device are viewed, it is not working
and ipconfig reports it as off. I've tried more than one network card. And,
download rates after the clean install are about one-quarter to one-half of
what they were when I did the upgrade. There's probably some Group Policy,
or other that needs to be configured, but that's not going to work for Win7
Home.

So, there appear to be some networking issues that didn't make sense.

Machine:
Win7 RC
Phenom II 940 @ 3.6 Ghz (Overclocked 20%, stable as a rock)
M4N72-E
8 GB DDR2
9800 GTX+
Linksys WMP300N
Linksys WUSB600N




"Carlos" <> wrote in message
news:BDDF1D17-C272-4E5B-90A8-...
> Mark,
> Me and others prefer clean install but before that you always have to do
> your homework and clearly identify your hardware parts, whether add-ins or
> embedded chipsets.
> Then get the drivers and only after then do the clean install.
> But there is still hope, please describe your hardware more thoroughly and
> you will surely find help here or in the web.
> There are WHQL Win 7 drivers for a great list of hardware.
> Carlos
>
> "Mark H" wrote:
>
>> I'm using Win 7 x64 and initially installed by the Upgrade method. The
>> only
>> area I had any difficulty with was networking... my adapter would "drop
>> out"
>> randomly and Win7 would attempt to reset it leading to a computer lock
>> up. I
>> won't go through all the details in this post, but let's just point out
>> that
>> one of the suggested repairs may be to Clean Install Win7.
>>
>> So, that is what I just accomplished.
>> What changed?
>> Well, neither the PCI or USB adapter drops out anymore, but even
>> though
>> the device setting enables IPv6, the function is not in use. My wireless
>> connection states Excellent connection, yet downloads are severely
>> limited
>> in speed. I've tried the MS driver and the vendor's driver. Neither
>> improve
>> the situation for either network card.
>>
>> As a side note, the upgrade had no problems incorporating my coprocessors
>> and audio devices. The clean install could not figure out what they were
>> and
>> subsequently could not download any drivers. When I did install the
>> drivers,
>> I was provided warnings they were not signed! This included WHQL nVidia
>> drivers, which are signed.
>>
>> Bottom line:
>> Yes, there is a difference between an Upgrade and a Clean Install and the
>> later is not necessarily better as I'm still having networking issues.
>>
>>

Mark,
I may be wrong here but is IPv6 of any use right now?
Aren't we all still on IPv4 for Internet access?

BTW, my HP 530 notebook (Win7 7100 x86) with embedded Intel wireless has
absolutely no connectivity issues.
My older son has also this cheapo USB wireless adapter
(http://www.topcom.net/downloads/letter/S/115.html) working trouble-free with
his Win 7 x64.

Carlos
P.S.: Still bragging about your overclock? Howdya cool it down? I wanna do
the same with my Phenom II 920

"Mark H" wrote:

> Thanks Carlos, and I agree... there is a lot of good help in here.
>
> My comments were relating my experience between the two installs. I used
> Win7 drivers (where available) and found it odd that there would be a
> difference in the final responses.
>
> No one, on LinkSys, Win7 forums or here have solved the "drop out" issue
> with Wireless USB adapters. (It's not limited to LinkSys.) Win7 seems to
> handle USB port power and networking differently than before and some (not
> all) have what can best be described as a lack of power to the adapter (PCI
> or USB.)
>
> On my machine, I finally overcame it (somewhat) by turning off a feature
> within the device driver that allowed it to minimize power during non-use.
> (Note: This didn't work if Win7 settings for Power Save mode were disabled
> instead.) This doesn't work for others.
>
> After the clean install, IPv6 doesn't work. The mode is turned on for the
> device, but when the properties of the device are viewed, it is not working
> and ipconfig reports it as off. I've tried more than one network card. And,
> download rates after the clean install are about one-quarter to one-half of
> what they were when I did the upgrade. There's probably some Group Policy,
> or other that needs to be configured, but that's not going to work for Win7
> Home.
>
> So, there appear to be some networking issues that didn't make sense.
>
> Machine:
> Win7 RC
> Phenom II 940 @ 3.6 Ghz (Overclocked 20%, stable as a rock)
> M4N72-E
> 8 GB DDR2
> 9800 GTX+
> Linksys WMP300N
> Linksys WUSB600N
>
>
>
>
> "Carlos" <> wrote in message
> news:BDDF1D17-C272-4E5B-90A8-...
> > Mark,
> > Me and others prefer clean install but before that you always have to do
> > your homework and clearly identify your hardware parts, whether add-ins or
> > embedded chipsets.
> > Then get the drivers and only after then do the clean install.
> > But there is still hope, please describe your hardware more thoroughly and
> > you will surely find help here or in the web.
> > There are WHQL Win 7 drivers for a great list of hardware.
> > Carlos
> >
> > "Mark H" wrote:
> >
> >> I'm using Win 7 x64 and initially installed by the Upgrade method. The
> >> only
> >> area I had any difficulty with was networking... my adapter would "drop
> >> out"
> >> randomly and Win7 would attempt to reset it leading to a computer lock
> >> up. I
> >> won't go through all the details in this post, but let's just point out
> >> that
> >> one of the suggested repairs may be to Clean Install Win7.
> >>
> >> So, that is what I just accomplished.
> >> What changed?
> >> Well, neither the PCI or USB adapter drops out anymore, but even
> >> though
> >> the device setting enables IPv6, the function is not in use. My wireless
> >> connection states Excellent connection, yet downloads are severely
> >> limited
> >> in speed. I've tried the MS driver and the vendor's driver. Neither
> >> improve
> >> the situation for either network card.
> >>
> >> As a side note, the upgrade had no problems incorporating my coprocessors
> >> and audio devices. The clean install could not figure out what they were
> >> and
> >> subsequently could not download any drivers. When I did install the
> >> drivers,
> >> I was provided warnings they were not signed! This included WHQL nVidia
> >> drivers, which are signed.
> >>
> >> Bottom line:
> >> Yes, there is a difference between an Upgrade and a Clean Install and the
> >> later is not necessarily better as I'm still having networking issues.
> >>
> >>
>

Simple piggy back fin cooler. Nothing else.
(I actually had it up to 3.8 Ghz, but it would crash on stress tests and
temps were steadily above 50C under no load. Every day stuff ran fine. It
will easily go farther, but not without some more expensive cooling.
Mostly I mention it because someone else may have found a link to the
overclocking and whatever problem I'm experiencing.

Regarding the dropout with USB adapters, like I said, it's pretty random.
In fact, after my clean install, the USB adapter "dropped out" again in the
middle of downloading files (so it was busy, but the computer may have tried
to sleep), and when Win7 attempts to reset it (Win7 thinks it is working and
should be asleep, apparently the reset fails) then it crashes the OS.
Sometimes the crash is a very slow death where everything slowly quits
responding, and other times, it's fast with a Bug Check of 0x124.

The other two computers in the house with the same card are just fine.

"Carlos" <> wrote in message
newsAEFF873-8530-48E3-8B02-...
> Mark,
> I may be wrong here but is IPv6 of any use right now?
> Aren't we all still on IPv4 for Internet access?
>
> BTW, my HP 530 notebook (Win7 7100 x86) with embedded Intel wireless has
> absolutely no connectivity issues.
> My older son has also this cheapo USB wireless adapter
> (http://www.topcom.net/downloads/letter/S/115.html) working trouble-free
> with
> his Win 7 x64.
>
> Carlos
> P.S.: Still bragging about your overclock? Howdya cool it down? I wanna do
> the same with my Phenom II 920
>
> "Mark H" wrote:
>
>> Thanks Carlos, and I agree... there is a lot of good help in here.
>>
>> My comments were relating my experience between the two installs. I used
>> Win7 drivers (where available) and found it odd that there would be a
>> difference in the final responses.
>>
>> No one, on LinkSys, Win7 forums or here have solved the "drop out" issue
>> with Wireless USB adapters. (It's not limited to LinkSys.) Win7 seems to
>> handle USB port power and networking differently than before and some
>> (not
>> all) have what can best be described as a lack of power to the adapter
>> (PCI
>> or USB.)
>>
>> On my machine, I finally overcame it (somewhat) by turning off a feature
>> within the device driver that allowed it to minimize power during
>> non-use.
>> (Note: This didn't work if Win7 settings for Power Save mode were
>> disabled
>> instead.) This doesn't work for others.
>>
>> After the clean install, IPv6 doesn't work. The mode is turned on for the
>> device, but when the properties of the device are viewed, it is not
>> working
>> and ipconfig reports it as off. I've tried more than one network card.
>> And,
>> download rates after the clean install are about one-quarter to one-half
>> of
>> what they were when I did the upgrade. There's probably some Group
>> Policy,
>> or other that needs to be configured, but that's not going to work for
>> Win7
>> Home.
>>
>> So, there appear to be some networking issues that didn't make sense.
>>
>> Machine:
>> Win7 RC
>> Phenom II 940 @ 3.6 Ghz (Overclocked 20%, stable as a rock)
>> M4N72-E
>> 8 GB DDR2
>> 9800 GTX+
>> Linksys WMP300N
>> Linksys WUSB600N
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Carlos" <> wrote in message
>> news:BDDF1D17-C272-4E5B-90A8-...
>> > Mark,
>> > Me and others prefer clean install but before that you always have to
>> > do
>> > your homework and clearly identify your hardware parts, whether add-ins
>> > or
>> > embedded chipsets.
>> > Then get the drivers and only after then do the clean install.
>> > But there is still hope, please describe your hardware more thoroughly
>> > and
>> > you will surely find help here or in the web.
>> > There are WHQL Win 7 drivers for a great list of hardware.
>> > Carlos
>> >
>> > "Mark H" wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm using Win 7 x64 and initially installed by the Upgrade method. The
>> >> only
>> >> area I had any difficulty with was networking... my adapter would
>> >> "drop
>> >> out"
>> >> randomly and Win7 would attempt to reset it leading to a computer lock
>> >> up. I
>> >> won't go through all the details in this post, but let's just point
>> >> out
>> >> that
>> >> one of the suggested repairs may be to Clean Install Win7.
>> >>
>> >> So, that is what I just accomplished.
>> >> What changed?
>> >> Well, neither the PCI or USB adapter drops out anymore, but even
>> >> though
>> >> the device setting enables IPv6, the function is not in use. My
>> >> wireless
>> >> connection states Excellent connection, yet downloads are severely
>> >> limited
>> >> in speed. I've tried the MS driver and the vendor's driver. Neither
>> >> improve
>> >> the situation for either network card.
>> >>
>> >> As a side note, the upgrade had no problems incorporating my
>> >> coprocessors
>> >> and audio devices. The clean install could not figure out what they
>> >> were
>> >> and
>> >> subsequently could not download any drivers. When I did install the
>> >> drivers,
>> >> I was provided warnings they were not signed! This included WHQL
>> >> nVidia
>> >> drivers, which are signed.
>> >>
>> >> Bottom line:
>> >> Yes, there is a difference between an Upgrade and a Clean Install and
>> >> the
>> >> later is not necessarily better as I'm still having networking issues.
>> >>
>> >>
>>

PS. I mention the IPv6 because it is aligned differently than it was in
Vista. Whether in use, or not, it had "connectivity" and I'm looking for
differences to find a cause for the random drops.

"Carlos" <> wrote in message
newsAEFF873-8530-48E3-8B02-...
> Mark,
> I may be wrong here but is IPv6 of any use right now?
> Aren't we all still on IPv4 for Internet access?
>
> BTW, my HP 530 notebook (Win7 7100 x86) with embedded Intel wireless has
> absolutely no connectivity issues.
> My older son has also this cheapo USB wireless adapter
> (http://www.topcom.net/downloads/letter/S/115.html) working trouble-free
> with
> his Win 7 x64.
>
> Carlos
> P.S.: Still bragging about your overclock? Howdya cool it down? I wanna do
> the same with my Phenom II 920
>
> "Mark H" wrote:
>
>> Thanks Carlos, and I agree... there is a lot of good help in here.
>>
>> My comments were relating my experience between the two installs. I used
>> Win7 drivers (where available) and found it odd that there would be a
>> difference in the final responses.
>>
>> No one, on LinkSys, Win7 forums or here have solved the "drop out" issue
>> with Wireless USB adapters. (It's not limited to LinkSys.) Win7 seems to
>> handle USB port power and networking differently than before and some
>> (not
>> all) have what can best be described as a lack of power to the adapter
>> (PCI
>> or USB.)
>>
>> On my machine, I finally overcame it (somewhat) by turning off a feature
>> within the device driver that allowed it to minimize power during
>> non-use.
>> (Note: This didn't work if Win7 settings for Power Save mode were
>> disabled
>> instead.) This doesn't work for others.
>>
>> After the clean install, IPv6 doesn't work. The mode is turned on for the
>> device, but when the properties of the device are viewed, it is not
>> working
>> and ipconfig reports it as off. I've tried more than one network card.
>> And,
>> download rates after the clean install are about one-quarter to one-half
>> of
>> what they were when I did the upgrade. There's probably some Group
>> Policy,
>> or other that needs to be configured, but that's not going to work for
>> Win7
>> Home.
>>
>> So, there appear to be some networking issues that didn't make sense.
>>
>> Machine:
>> Win7 RC
>> Phenom II 940 @ 3.6 Ghz (Overclocked 20%, stable as a rock)
>> M4N72-E
>> 8 GB DDR2
>> 9800 GTX+
>> Linksys WMP300N
>> Linksys WUSB600N
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Carlos" <> wrote in message
>> news:BDDF1D17-C272-4E5B-90A8-...
>> > Mark,
>> > Me and others prefer clean install but before that you always have to
>> > do
>> > your homework and clearly identify your hardware parts, whether add-ins
>> > or
>> > embedded chipsets.
>> > Then get the drivers and only after then do the clean install.
>> > But there is still hope, please describe your hardware more thoroughly
>> > and
>> > you will surely find help here or in the web.
>> > There are WHQL Win 7 drivers for a great list of hardware.
>> > Carlos
>> >
>> > "Mark H" wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm using Win 7 x64 and initially installed by the Upgrade method. The
>> >> only
>> >> area I had any difficulty with was networking... my adapter would
>> >> "drop
>> >> out"
>> >> randomly and Win7 would attempt to reset it leading to a computer lock
>> >> up. I
>> >> won't go through all the details in this post, but let's just point
>> >> out
>> >> that
>> >> one of the suggested repairs may be to Clean Install Win7.
>> >>
>> >> So, that is what I just accomplished.
>> >> What changed?
>> >> Well, neither the PCI or USB adapter drops out anymore, but even
>> >> though
>> >> the device setting enables IPv6, the function is not in use. My
>> >> wireless
>> >> connection states Excellent connection, yet downloads are severely
>> >> limited
>> >> in speed. I've tried the MS driver and the vendor's driver. Neither
>> >> improve
>> >> the situation for either network card.
>> >>
>> >> As a side note, the upgrade had no problems incorporating my
>> >> coprocessors
>> >> and audio devices. The clean install could not figure out what they
>> >> were
>> >> and
>> >> subsequently could not download any drivers. When I did install the
>> >> drivers,
>> >> I was provided warnings they were not signed! This included WHQL
>> >> nVidia
>> >> drivers, which are signed.
>> >>
>> >> Bottom line:
>> >> Yes, there is a difference between an Upgrade and a Clean Install and
>> >> the
>> >> later is not necessarily better as I'm still having networking issues.
>> >>
>> >>
>>

Mark,
In local area connection (adapter properties) I have:
IPv4 connectivity: Connected to the Internet
IPv6 connectivity: Without access to the Internet
(translated from Spanish into English)
Carlos

"Mark H" wrote:

> PS. I mention the IPv6 because it is aligned differently than it was in
> Vista. Whether in use, or not, it had "connectivity" and I'm looking for
> differences to find a cause for the random drops.
>
> "Carlos" <> wrote in message
> newsAEFF873-8530-48E3-8B02-...
> > Mark,
> > I may be wrong here but is IPv6 of any use right now?
> > Aren't we all still on IPv4 for Internet access?
> >
> > BTW, my HP 530 notebook (Win7 7100 x86) with embedded Intel wireless has
> > absolutely no connectivity issues.
> > My older son has also this cheapo USB wireless adapter
> > (http://www.topcom.net/downloads/letter/S/115.html) working trouble-free
> > with
> > his Win 7 x64.
> >
> > Carlos
> > P.S.: Still bragging about your overclock? Howdya cool it down? I wanna do
> > the same with my Phenom II 920
> >
> > "Mark H" wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Carlos, and I agree... there is a lot of good help in here.
> >>
> >> My comments were relating my experience between the two installs. I used
> >> Win7 drivers (where available) and found it odd that there would be a
> >> difference in the final responses.
> >>
> >> No one, on LinkSys, Win7 forums or here have solved the "drop out" issue
> >> with Wireless USB adapters. (It's not limited to LinkSys.) Win7 seems to
> >> handle USB port power and networking differently than before and some
> >> (not
> >> all) have what can best be described as a lack of power to the adapter
> >> (PCI
> >> or USB.)
> >>
> >> On my machine, I finally overcame it (somewhat) by turning off a feature
> >> within the device driver that allowed it to minimize power during
> >> non-use.
> >> (Note: This didn't work if Win7 settings for Power Save mode were
> >> disabled
> >> instead.) This doesn't work for others.
> >>
> >> After the clean install, IPv6 doesn't work. The mode is turned on for the
> >> device, but when the properties of the device are viewed, it is not
> >> working
> >> and ipconfig reports it as off. I've tried more than one network card.
> >> And,
> >> download rates after the clean install are about one-quarter to one-half
> >> of
> >> what they were when I did the upgrade. There's probably some Group
> >> Policy,
> >> or other that needs to be configured, but that's not going to work for
> >> Win7
> >> Home.
> >>
> >> So, there appear to be some networking issues that didn't make sense.
> >>
> >> Machine:
> >> Win7 RC
> >> Phenom II 940 @ 3.6 Ghz (Overclocked 20%, stable as a rock)
> >> M4N72-E
> >> 8 GB DDR2
> >> 9800 GTX+
> >> Linksys WMP300N
> >> Linksys WUSB600N
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Carlos" <> wrote in message
> >> news:BDDF1D17-C272-4E5B-90A8-...
> >> > Mark,
> >> > Me and others prefer clean install but before that you always have to
> >> > do
> >> > your homework and clearly identify your hardware parts, whether add-ins
> >> > or
> >> > embedded chipsets.
> >> > Then get the drivers and only after then do the clean install.
> >> > But there is still hope, please describe your hardware more thoroughly
> >> > and
> >> > you will surely find help here or in the web.
> >> > There are WHQL Win 7 drivers for a great list of hardware.
> >> > Carlos
> >> >
> >> > "Mark H" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I'm using Win 7 x64 and initially installed by the Upgrade method. The
> >> >> only
> >> >> area I had any difficulty with was networking... my adapter would
> >> >> "drop
> >> >> out"
> >> >> randomly and Win7 would attempt to reset it leading to a computer lock
> >> >> up. I
> >> >> won't go through all the details in this post, but let's just point
> >> >> out
> >> >> that
> >> >> one of the suggested repairs may be to Clean Install Win7.
> >> >>
> >> >> So, that is what I just accomplished.
> >> >> What changed?
> >> >> Well, neither the PCI or USB adapter drops out anymore, but even
> >> >> though
> >> >> the device setting enables IPv6, the function is not in use. My
> >> >> wireless
> >> >> connection states Excellent connection, yet downloads are severely
> >> >> limited
> >> >> in speed. I've tried the MS driver and the vendor's driver. Neither
> >> >> improve
> >> >> the situation for either network card.
> >> >>
> >> >> As a side note, the upgrade had no problems incorporating my
> >> >> coprocessors
> >> >> and audio devices. The clean install could not figure out what they
> >> >> were
> >> >> and
> >> >> subsequently could not download any drivers. When I did install the
> >> >> drivers,
> >> >> I was provided warnings they were not signed! This included WHQL
> >> >> nVidia
> >> >> drivers, which are signed.
> >> >>
> >> >> Bottom line:
> >> >> Yes, there is a difference between an Upgrade and a Clean Install and
> >> >> the
> >> >> later is not necessarily better as I'm still having networking issues.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>

That's what I have. Good to know I'm not unique and I can disregard IPv6.
Thanks for your help!

I'll be looking into the slow transfer speeds this evening. Maybe a new
thread to focus the topic.

"Carlos" <> wrote in message
news:90EDAD46-DFFE-4D99-832F-...
> Mark,
> In local area connection (adapter properties) I have:
> IPv4 connectivity: Connected to the Internet
> IPv6 connectivity: Without access to the Internet
> (translated from Spanish into English)
> Carlos
>
> "Mark H" wrote:
>
>> PS. I mention the IPv6 because it is aligned differently than it was in
>> Vista. Whether in use, or not, it had "connectivity" and I'm looking for
>> differences to find a cause for the random drops.
>>
>> "Carlos" <> wrote in message
>> newsAEFF873-8530-48E3-8B02-...
>> > Mark,
>> > I may be wrong here but is IPv6 of any use right now?
>> > Aren't we all still on IPv4 for Internet access?
>> >
>> > BTW, my HP 530 notebook (Win7 7100 x86) with embedded Intel wireless
>> > has
>> > absolutely no connectivity issues.
>> > My older son has also this cheapo USB wireless adapter
>> > (http://www.topcom.net/downloads/letter/S/115.html) working
>> > trouble-free
>> > with
>> > his Win 7 x64.
>> >
>> > Carlos
>> > P.S.: Still bragging about your overclock? Howdya cool it down? I wanna
>> > do
>> > the same with my Phenom II 920
>> >
>> > "Mark H" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Thanks Carlos, and I agree... there is a lot of good help in here.
>> >>
>> >> My comments were relating my experience between the two installs. I
>> >> used
>> >> Win7 drivers (where available) and found it odd that there would be a
>> >> difference in the final responses.
>> >>
>> >> No one, on LinkSys, Win7 forums or here have solved the "drop out"
>> >> issue
>> >> with Wireless USB adapters. (It's not limited to LinkSys.) Win7 seems
>> >> to
>> >> handle USB port power and networking differently than before and some
>> >> (not
>> >> all) have what can best be described as a lack of power to the adapter
>> >> (PCI
>> >> or USB.)
>> >>
>> >> On my machine, I finally overcame it (somewhat) by turning off a
>> >> feature
>> >> within the device driver that allowed it to minimize power during
>> >> non-use.
>> >> (Note: This didn't work if Win7 settings for Power Save mode were
>> >> disabled
>> >> instead.) This doesn't work for others.
>> >>
>> >> After the clean install, IPv6 doesn't work. The mode is turned on for
>> >> the
>> >> device, but when the properties of the device are viewed, it is not
>> >> working
>> >> and ipconfig reports it as off. I've tried more than one network card.
>> >> And,
>> >> download rates after the clean install are about one-quarter to
>> >> one-half
>> >> of
>> >> what they were when I did the upgrade. There's probably some Group
>> >> Policy,
>> >> or other that needs to be configured, but that's not going to work for
>> >> Win7
>> >> Home.
>> >>
>> >> So, there appear to be some networking issues that didn't make sense.
>> >>
>> >> Machine:
>> >> Win7 RC
>> >> Phenom II 940 @ 3.6 Ghz (Overclocked 20%, stable as a rock)
>> >> M4N72-E
>> >> 8 GB DDR2
>> >> 9800 GTX+
>> >> Linksys WMP300N
>> >> Linksys WUSB600N
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Carlos" <> wrote in message
>> >> news:BDDF1D17-C272-4E5B-90A8-...
>> >> > Mark,
>> >> > Me and others prefer clean install but before that you always have
>> >> > to
>> >> > do
>> >> > your homework and clearly identify your hardware parts, whether
>> >> > add-ins
>> >> > or
>> >> > embedded chipsets.
>> >> > Then get the drivers and only after then do the clean install.
>> >> > But there is still hope, please describe your hardware more
>> >> > thoroughly
>> >> > and
>> >> > you will surely find help here or in the web.
>> >> > There are WHQL Win 7 drivers for a great list of hardware.
>> >> > Carlos
>> >> >
>> >> > "Mark H" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> I'm using Win 7 x64 and initially installed by the Upgrade method.
>> >> >> The
>> >> >> only
>> >> >> area I had any difficulty with was networking... my adapter would
>> >> >> "drop
>> >> >> out"
>> >> >> randomly and Win7 would attempt to reset it leading to a computer
>> >> >> lock
>> >> >> up. I
>> >> >> won't go through all the details in this post, but let's just point
>> >> >> out
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> one of the suggested repairs may be to Clean Install Win7.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So, that is what I just accomplished.
>> >> >> What changed?
>> >> >> Well, neither the PCI or USB adapter drops out anymore, but even
>> >> >> though
>> >> >> the device setting enables IPv6, the function is not in use. My
>> >> >> wireless
>> >> >> connection states Excellent connection, yet downloads are severely
>> >> >> limited
>> >> >> in speed. I've tried the MS driver and the vendor's driver. Neither
>> >> >> improve
>> >> >> the situation for either network card.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> As a side note, the upgrade had no problems incorporating my
>> >> >> coprocessors
>> >> >> and audio devices. The clean install could not figure out what they
>> >> >> were
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> subsequently could not download any drivers. When I did install the
>> >> >> drivers,
>> >> >> I was provided warnings they were not signed! This included WHQL
>> >> >> nVidia
>> >> >> drivers, which are signed.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Bottom line:
>> >> >> Yes, there is a difference between an Upgrade and a Clean Install
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> later is not necessarily better as I'm still having networking
>> >> >> issues.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>>

Mark,
Mine is a Realtek network chipset (not wireless) embedded in the mobo. So it
is not an exclusive wireless issue.
Regarding download speeds the also depend on where you are downloading from.
Have you tried using a download manager?
I use the old freeware flashget (www.flashget.com). Latest version dates
back to 2007 but it works in Win 7 x64.
This program makes several connections (up to 5) to the download site, thus
increasing the download speed. Handy program also for torrents.
Carlos
P.S.: Gotta shave and go to work now!

"Mark H" wrote:

> That's what I have. Good to know I'm not unique and I can disregard IPv6.
> Thanks for your help!
>
> I'll be looking into the slow transfer speeds this evening. Maybe a new
> thread to focus the topic.
>
> "Carlos" <> wrote in message
> news:90EDAD46-DFFE-4D99-832F-...
> > Mark,
> > In local area connection (adapter properties) I have:
> > IPv4 connectivity: Connected to the Internet
> > IPv6 connectivity: Without access to the Internet
> > (translated from Spanish into English)
> > Carlos
> >
> > "Mark H" wrote:
> >
> >> PS. I mention the IPv6 because it is aligned differently than it was in
> >> Vista. Whether in use, or not, it had "connectivity" and I'm looking for
> >> differences to find a cause for the random drops.
> >>
> >> "Carlos" <> wrote in message
> >> newsAEFF873-8530-48E3-8B02-...
> >> > Mark,
> >> > I may be wrong here but is IPv6 of any use right now?
> >> > Aren't we all still on IPv4 for Internet access?
> >> >
> >> > BTW, my HP 530 notebook (Win7 7100 x86) with embedded Intel wireless
> >> > has
> >> > absolutely no connectivity issues.
> >> > My older son has also this cheapo USB wireless adapter
> >> > (http://www.topcom.net/downloads/letter/S/115.html) working
> >> > trouble-free
> >> > with
> >> > his Win 7 x64.
> >> >
> >> > Carlos
> >> > P.S.: Still bragging about your overclock? Howdya cool it down? I wanna
> >> > do
> >> > the same with my Phenom II 920
> >> >
> >> > "Mark H" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Thanks Carlos, and I agree... there is a lot of good help in here.
> >> >>
> >> >> My comments were relating my experience between the two installs. I
> >> >> used
> >> >> Win7 drivers (where available) and found it odd that there would be a
> >> >> difference in the final responses.
> >> >>
> >> >> No one, on LinkSys, Win7 forums or here have solved the "drop out"
> >> >> issue
> >> >> with Wireless USB adapters. (It's not limited to LinkSys.) Win7 seems
> >> >> to
> >> >> handle USB port power and networking differently than before and some
> >> >> (not
> >> >> all) have what can best be described as a lack of power to the adapter
> >> >> (PCI
> >> >> or USB.)
> >> >>
> >> >> On my machine, I finally overcame it (somewhat) by turning off a
> >> >> feature
> >> >> within the device driver that allowed it to minimize power during
> >> >> non-use.
> >> >> (Note: This didn't work if Win7 settings for Power Save mode were
> >> >> disabled
> >> >> instead.) This doesn't work for others.
> >> >>
> >> >> After the clean install, IPv6 doesn't work. The mode is turned on for
> >> >> the
> >> >> device, but when the properties of the device are viewed, it is not
> >> >> working
> >> >> and ipconfig reports it as off. I've tried more than one network card.
> >> >> And,
> >> >> download rates after the clean install are about one-quarter to
> >> >> one-half
> >> >> of
> >> >> what they were when I did the upgrade. There's probably some Group
> >> >> Policy,
> >> >> or other that needs to be configured, but that's not going to work for
> >> >> Win7
> >> >> Home.
> >> >>
> >> >> So, there appear to be some networking issues that didn't make sense.
> >> >>
> >> >> Machine:
> >> >> Win7 RC
> >> >> Phenom II 940 @ 3.6 Ghz (Overclocked 20%, stable as a rock)
> >> >> M4N72-E
> >> >> 8 GB DDR2
> >> >> 9800 GTX+
> >> >> Linksys WMP300N
> >> >> Linksys WUSB600N
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Carlos" <> wrote in message
> >> >> news:BDDF1D17-C272-4E5B-90A8-...
> >> >> > Mark,
> >> >> > Me and others prefer clean install but before that you always have
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > do
> >> >> > your homework and clearly identify your hardware parts, whether
> >> >> > add-ins
> >> >> > or
> >> >> > embedded chipsets.
> >> >> > Then get the drivers and only after then do the clean install.
> >> >> > But there is still hope, please describe your hardware more
> >> >> > thoroughly
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > you will surely find help here or in the web.
> >> >> > There are WHQL Win 7 drivers for a great list of hardware.
> >> >> > Carlos
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Mark H" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> I'm using Win 7 x64 and initially installed by the Upgrade method.
> >> >> >> The
> >> >> >> only
> >> >> >> area I had any difficulty with was networking... my adapter would
> >> >> >> "drop
> >> >> >> out"
> >> >> >> randomly and Win7 would attempt to reset it leading to a computer
> >> >> >> lock
> >> >> >> up. I
> >> >> >> won't go through all the details in this post, but let's just point
> >> >> >> out
> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> one of the suggested repairs may be to Clean Install Win7.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> So, that is what I just accomplished.
> >> >> >> What changed?
> >> >> >> Well, neither the PCI or USB adapter drops out anymore, but even
> >> >> >> though
> >> >> >> the device setting enables IPv6, the function is not in use. My
> >> >> >> wireless
> >> >> >> connection states Excellent connection, yet downloads are severely
> >> >> >> limited
> >> >> >> in speed. I've tried the MS driver and the vendor's driver. Neither
> >> >> >> improve
> >> >> >> the situation for either network card.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> As a side note, the upgrade had no problems incorporating my
> >> >> >> coprocessors
> >> >> >> and audio devices. The clean install could not figure out what they
> >> >> >> were
> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> subsequently could not download any drivers. When I did install the
> >> >> >> drivers,
> >> >> >> I was provided warnings they were not signed! This included WHQL
> >> >> >> nVidia
> >> >> >> drivers, which are signed.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Bottom line:
> >> >> >> Yes, there is a difference between an Upgrade and a Clean Install
> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> later is not necessarily better as I'm still having networking
> >> >> >> issues.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>

Again, I'm pointing out a change.
This desktop unit has not been altered or moved since I did the clean
install of Win 7 and gets excellent reception (270 Mbps "possible") but is
lucky to transfer at 54 Mbps.

Maybe I should detail what is happening:
Upgrade:
No change in transfer rates from Vista Ultimate x64.
USB adapter randomly drops out with it's internet connection while local
network remains. During this time, Win 7 is attempting to restore the
connection by resetting the adapter. This results in a lockup that requires
the power off button to recover. (No blue screens.)
Move adapter from hub to back of computer and adapter performance
improves. Only drops out once an hour instead of five. (Power supply issue
through the USB port.)
[Did Vista limit transfer rates through USB ports? Found each USB is
limited to 10%-20% through Device Manager. Win 7 repeatedly tells me my
device could perform better if it were connected to a 2.0 USB port... it is
and the driver is up-to-date.]
Tried removing drivers and reinstalling either MS driver (Broadcom) or
Linksys driver. (Linksys makes either Broadcom for US, or Atheros for EU)
No improvement in dropouts.
Since drop outs appear to be related to "sleep mode" or "power saving", I
turn both off.
When Win7 functions are disabled, there is no change in drop outs.
When driver functions to "Minimize Power Consumption" are turned off,
there are less drop outs. (These options are not available in the MS
driver.)

Clean Install:
Transfer rates drop by 75%. If multiple downloads are in progress, they
all seem to have equivalent download speeds which add up to more than a
single download speed (as if throttling is occurring for the downloads.)
Connection is excellent (five bars, 270 Mbps possible)
USB adapter still randomly drops out and crashes the OS. Occassional blue
screen: 0x124, which confirms a "sleep" issue with the adapter.

Research on the web finds that the problem is not just a Linksys issue. Nor
is it limited to x64.
(I may have the units wrong on the transfer rates, but I'm doing this from
memory at work.)



"Carlos" <> wrote in message
news:B40910E4-A3CA-403A-9B04-...
> Mark,
> Mine is a Realtek network chipset (not wireless) embedded in the mobo. So
it
> is not an exclusive wireless issue.
> Regarding download speeds the also depend on where you are downloading
from.
> Have you tried using a download manager?
> I use the old freeware flashget (www.flashget.com). Latest version dates
> back to 2007 but it works in Win 7 x64.
> This program makes several connections (up to 5) to the download site,
thus
> increasing the download speed. Handy program also for torrents.
> Carlos
> P.S.: Gotta shave and go to work now!
>
> "Mark H" wrote:
>
> > That's what I have. Good to know I'm not unique and I can disregard
IPv6.
> > Thanks for your help!
> >
> > I'll be looking into the slow transfer speeds this evening. Maybe a new
> > thread to focus the topic.
> >
> > "Carlos" <> wrote in message
> > news:90EDAD46-DFFE-4D99-832F-...
> > > Mark,
> > > In local area connection (adapter properties) I have:
> > > IPv4 connectivity: Connected to the Internet
> > > IPv6 connectivity: Without access to the Internet
> > > (translated from Spanish into English)
> > > Carlos
> > >
> > > "Mark H" wrote:
> > >
> > >> PS. I mention the IPv6 because it is aligned differently than it was
in
> > >> Vista. Whether in use, or not, it had "connectivity" and I'm looking
for
> > >> differences to find a cause for the random drops.
> > >>
> > >> "Carlos" <> wrote in message
> > >> newsAEFF873-8530-48E3-8B02-...
> > >> > Mark,
> > >> > I may be wrong here but is IPv6 of any use right now?
> > >> > Aren't we all still on IPv4 for Internet access?
> > >> >
> > >> > BTW, my HP 530 notebook (Win7 7100 x86) with embedded Intel
wireless
> > >> > has
> > >> > absolutely no connectivity issues.
> > >> > My older son has also this cheapo USB wireless adapter
> > >> > (http://www.topcom.net/downloads/letter/S/115.html) working
> > >> > trouble-free
> > >> > with
> > >> > his Win 7 x64.
> > >> >
> > >> > Carlos
> > >> > P.S.: Still bragging about your overclock? Howdya cool it down? I
wanna
> > >> > do
> > >> > the same with my Phenom II 920
> > >> >
> > >> > "Mark H" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Thanks Carlos, and I agree... there is a lot of good help in here.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> My comments were relating my experience between the two installs.
I
> > >> >> used
> > >> >> Win7 drivers (where available) and found it odd that there would
be a
> > >> >> difference in the final responses.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> No one, on LinkSys, Win7 forums or here have solved the "drop out"
> > >> >> issue
> > >> >> with Wireless USB adapters. (It's not limited to LinkSys.) Win7
seems
> > >> >> to
> > >> >> handle USB port power and networking differently than before and
some
> > >> >> (not
> > >> >> all) have what can best be described as a lack of power to the
adapter
> > >> >> (PCI
> > >> >> or USB.)
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On my machine, I finally overcame it (somewhat) by turning off a
> > >> >> feature
> > >> >> within the device driver that allowed it to minimize power during
> > >> >> non-use.
> > >> >> (Note: This didn't work if Win7 settings for Power Save mode were
> > >> >> disabled
> > >> >> instead.) This doesn't work for others.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> After the clean install, IPv6 doesn't work. The mode is turned on
for
> > >> >> the
> > >> >> device, but when the properties of the device are viewed, it is
not
> > >> >> working
> > >> >> and ipconfig reports it as off. I've tried more than one network
card.
> > >> >> And,
> > >> >> download rates after the clean install are about one-quarter to
> > >> >> one-half
> > >> >> of
> > >> >> what they were when I did the upgrade. There's probably some Group
> > >> >> Policy,
> > >> >> or other that needs to be configured, but that's not going to work
for
> > >> >> Win7
> > >> >> Home.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> So, there appear to be some networking issues that didn't make
sense.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Machine:
> > >> >> Win7 RC
> > >> >> Phenom II 940 @ 3.6 Ghz (Overclocked 20%, stable as a rock)
> > >> >> M4N72-E
> > >> >> 8 GB DDR2
> > >> >> 9800 GTX+
> > >> >> Linksys WMP300N
> > >> >> Linksys WUSB600N
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> "Carlos" <> wrote in message
> > >> >> news:BDDF1D17-C272-4E5B-90A8-...
> > >> >> > Mark,
> > >> >> > Me and others prefer clean install but before that you always
have
> > >> >> > to
> > >> >> > do
> > >> >> > your homework and clearly identify your hardware parts, whether
> > >> >> > add-ins
> > >> >> > or
> > >> >> > embedded chipsets.
> > >> >> > Then get the drivers and only after then do the clean install.
> > >> >> > But there is still hope, please describe your hardware more
> > >> >> > thoroughly
> > >> >> > and
> > >> >> > you will surely find help here or in the web.
> > >> >> > There are WHQL Win 7 drivers for a great list of hardware.
> > >> >> > Carlos
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > "Mark H" wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> I'm using Win 7 x64 and initially installed by the Upgrade
method.
> > >> >> >> The
> > >> >> >> only
> > >> >> >> area I had any difficulty with was networking... my adapter
would
> > >> >> >> "drop
> > >> >> >> out"
> > >> >> >> randomly and Win7 would attempt to reset it leading to a
computer
> > >> >> >> lock
> > >> >> >> up. I
> > >> >> >> won't go through all the details in this post, but let's just
point
> > >> >> >> out
> > >> >> >> that
> > >> >> >> one of the suggested repairs may be to Clean Install Win7.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> So, that is what I just accomplished.
> > >> >> >> What changed?
> > >> >> >> Well, neither the PCI or USB adapter drops out anymore, but
even
> > >> >> >> though
> > >> >> >> the device setting enables IPv6, the function is not in use. My
> > >> >> >> wireless
> > >> >> >> connection states Excellent connection, yet downloads are
severely
> > >> >> >> limited
> > >> >> >> in speed. I've tried the MS driver and the vendor's driver.
Neither
> > >> >> >> improve
> > >> >> >> the situation for either network card.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> As a side note, the upgrade had no problems incorporating my
> > >> >> >> coprocessors
> > >> >> >> and audio devices. The clean install could not figure out what
they
> > >> >> >> were
> > >> >> >> and
> > >> >> >> subsequently could not download any drivers. When I did install
the
> > >> >> >> drivers,
> > >> >> >> I was provided warnings they were not signed! This included
WHQL
> > >> >> >> nVidia
> > >> >> >> drivers, which are signed.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Bottom line:
> > >> >> >> Yes, there is a difference between an Upgrade and a Clean
Install
> > >> >> >> and
> > >> >> >> the
> > >> >> >> later is not necessarily better as I'm still having networking
> > >> >> >> issues.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >>
> >