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Hi:

Here is how to secure yourself against the evil Central Security
Service:

1. Make sure your computer does NOT have any NVRAM

2. Make sure your MAC addy is dynamic

3. Access the internet via a publicly-available wireless access point
-- such as an internet cafe

4. Use a very powerful and sensitive wireless transmitter/receiver for
the internet so that you can use the access point from at least 1/4
mile away.

Now run along and have fun on the net w/out oppression from the
worthless POS Central Security Service dirtbags.


Best of luck

GreenXenon wrote

> Here is how to secure yourself against the evil Central Security Service:

Pity that is just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, child.

GreenXenon wrote:
> Hi:
>
> Here is how to secure yourself against the evil Central Security
> Service:
>
> 1. Make sure your computer does NOT have any NVRAM

I remember those days. I had to toggle in a bootstrap-loader from a
bunch of toggle switches, load the registers, then press "execute"

If you didn't screw up you could then load a mylar tape with rest of the
boot-strap loader and hopefully kick in the disk drive.

God help everyone if there was a power cut!

You're barking!

Martin wrote
> GreenXenon wrote

>> Here is how to secure yourself against the evil Central Security Service:

>> 1. Make sure your computer does NOT have any NVRAM

> I remember those days.

Nope.

> I had to toggle in a bootstrap-loader from a bunch of toggle switches, load the registers, then press "execute"

That was replaced by diode panels where you cut out physical
diodes with a pair of side cutters to 'program' the boot loader.

And that was replaced by eproms, which arent NVRAM either.

> If you didn't screw up you could then load a mylar tape with rest of the boot-strap loader and hopefully kick in the
> disk drive.

The ones I started with didnt even have a disk drive at all,
just an ARS33 teletype with papertape reader and punch.

> God help everyone if there was a power cut!

That was no problem, the core contents wasnt volatile, it remains over a power cut.

> You're barking!

You did get that bit right.

Rod Speed wrote:
> Martin wrote
>> GreenXenon wrote
>
>>> Here is how to secure yourself against the evil Central Security Service:
>
>>> 1. Make sure your computer does NOT have any NVRAM
>
>> I remember those days.
>
> Nope.

Well yes actually. Is it really required that some people just HAVE to
argue about everything?

When I started I was designing racks and racks of 7400 series chips that
built the processor. I think I would have noticed if there was any NVRAM
about.

>
>> I had to toggle in a bootstrap-loader from a bunch of toggle switches, load the registers, then press "execute"
>
> That was replaced by diode panels where you cut out physical
> diodes with a pair of side cutters to 'program' the boot loader.

And you know my background how exactly?

I suppose you'll have some commenting to do when I also tell you I had
to (occasionally) toggle individual bits in the microcode (yes, we even
had them in the days of 7400 series) with a panel of push-button
switches, one of which was called (and I can't remember the exact name)
Julia because the designer had an off and decided to just name a
bit-state after his wife.

I mean, tell an anecdote about your own background, but don't just say
"nope" about mine when I designed processors without an NVRAM in sight.

>
>> You're barking!
>
> You did get that bit right.

Well thanks a bunch you condescending moron.
>
>

Just because you're paranoid does not mean they're not after you. Better
turn your computer off and keep it that way.




"GreenXenon" <> wrote in message
news:abbf3407-36fc-474f-ad9d-...
> Hi:
>
> Here is how to secure yourself against the evil Central Security
> Service:
>
> 1. Make sure your computer does NOT have any NVRAM
>
> 2. Make sure your MAC addy is dynamic
>
> 3. Access the internet via a publicly-available wireless access point
> -- such as an internet cafe
>
> 4. Use a very powerful and sensitive wireless transmitter/receiver for
> the internet so that you can use the access point from at least 1/4
> mile away.
>
> Now run along and have fun on the net w/out oppression from the
> worthless POS Central Security Service dirtbags.
>
>
> Best of luck

On Jun 20, 5:15 pm, Martin <usene...@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:
> GreenXenon wrote:
> > Hi:
>
> > Here is how to secure yourself against the evil Central Security
> > Service:
>
> > 1. Make sure your computer does NOT have any NVRAM
>
> I remember those days. I had to toggle in a bootstrap-loader from a
> bunch of toggle switches, load the registers, then press "execute"
>
> If you didn't screw up you could then load a mylar tape with rest of the
> boot-strap loader and hopefully kick in the disk drive.
>
> God help everyone if there was a power cut!
>
> You're barking!

It's best if the only RAM in the computer is Twin Transistor RAM and
the only ROM in the computer is mask-programmed ROM. That way you get
the most security.

Also, the MAC addy should be completely dynamic. IOW, each time the
power is offed, the network card should generate a completely new MAC
addy and have no trace of the old one.

GreenXenon wrote
> Martin <usene...@etiqa.co.uk> wrote
>> GreenXenon wrote

>>> Here is how to secure yourself against the evil Central Security Service:

>>> 1. Make sure your computer does NOT have any NVRAM

>> I remember those days. I had to toggle in a bootstrap-loader from a
>> bunch of toggle switches, load the registers, then press "execute"

>> If you didn't screw up you could then load a mylar tape with
>> rest of the boot-strap loader and hopefully kick in the disk drive.

>> God help everyone if there was a power cut!

>> You're barking!

> It's best if the only RAM in the computer is Twin Transistor RAM

And true ram is fine.

> and the only ROM in the computer is mask-programmed ROM.

More pig ignorant drivel. eprom is fine too when there
is no high voltage thats required to program it present.

> That way you get the most security.

Utterly mangled all over again.

You get the most security by not putting anything you care
about security wise into the PC in the first place, child.

> Also, the MAC addy should be completely dynamic. IOW,
> each time the power is offed, the network card should generate
> a completely new MAC addy and have no trace of the old one.

Fat lot of good that will do you, child.

Its completely trivial to work out what MAC addresses you have used.

Martin wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Martin wrote
>>> GreenXenon wrote

>>>> Here is how to secure yourself against the evil Central Security Service:

>>>> 1. Make sure your computer does NOT have any NVRAM

>>> I remember those days.

>> Nope.

> Well yes actually.

Nope. You are utterly mangling what actually happened in those days.

> Is it really required that some people just HAVE to argue about everything?

You spew mindless pig ignorant ****, you may well find that
someone will point out that its utterly mindless pig ignorant ****.

> When I started I was designing racks and racks of 7400 series chips that built the processor.

A mere child. Some of us were doing that with tubes, discrete transistors, RTL etc etc etc, child.

> I think I would have noticed if there was any NVRAM about.

I didnt say there was any NVRAM in those, child.

>>> I had to toggle in a bootstrap-loader from a bunch of toggle switches, load the registers, then press "execute"

>> That was replaced by diode panels where you cut out physical
>> diodes with a pair of side cutters to 'program' the boot loader.

> And you know my background how exactly?

Dont need to know a damned thing about your background.

All I need to know is what replaced toggling in the boot loader.

> I suppose you'll have some commenting to do when I also tell you I had to (occasionally) toggle individual bits in the
> microcode (yes, we even had them in the days of 7400 series) with a panel of push-button switches, one of which was
> called (and I can't remember the exact name) Julia because the designer had an off and decided to just name a
> bit-state after his wife.

All completely and utterly irrelevant to what replaced toggling in the boot loader.

> I mean, tell an anecdote about your own background, but don't just say
> "nope" about mine when I designed processors without an NVRAM in sight.

Never said a word about whether there was any NVRAM in sight.

>>> You're barking!

>> You did get that bit right.

> Well thanks a bunch you condescending moron.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag, you terminal ****wit/pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist.

"GreenXenon" <> wrote in message
news:abbf3407-36fc-474f-ad9d-...
> Hi:
>
> Here is how to secure yourself against the evil Central Security
> Service:
>
> 1. Make sure your computer does NOT have any NVRAM
>
> 2. Make sure your MAC addy is dynamic
>
> 3. Access the internet via a publicly-available wireless access point
> -- such as an internet cafe


Where they can set up a packet scanner and log everything you send and
recieve.
Don't forget they don't have to have access to the Cafe, all they have to do
is put the packet sniffer in at the Exchange/Cable cabinet.
You will be easy enough to pick up from your 'Signature'

>
> 4. Use a very powerful and sensitive wireless transmitter/receiver for
> the internet so that you can use the access point from at least 1/4
> mile away.

Never heard of RDF?
Or how the UK listened into the Nazi's 'Wireless Traffic' during WW2 and
broke their Enigma and Geheimschreibers (secret writers) using nothing more
sophisticated than a bunch of Relays and Vacumn Tubes.

>
> Now run along and have fun on the net w/out oppression from the
> worthless POS Central Security Service dirtbags.
>
>
> Best of luck

P.