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Woger
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      06-09-2009
First view


Very easy to install and fast.

After bit of stuffing around managed to get replacements of the damaged Rar
files, the posted had done a Fix but one was still bad, got that from another
list.


When I did a WIN 7 compatibly check all was OK but Flagged me that I need to
update the Drivers for the ITE IDE Controller and the Silicon Image SATA
controller, from the MS Web site.

Installed it as a Dual boot System I think, found that Agent news reader will
only work in XP compatibly mode.

Plus the Updates 4 listed, only one for my Sound card and the other for my HP
printer, No updates are listed ITE IDE Controller and the Silicon Image SATA
controller.

So the 2 drives that are on the ITE Controller are no longer listed..
 
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Woger
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      06-09-2009


Second view


Seems to run a lot faster than XP but is ten times better than VISTA that I
could not stand, seems very easy to use.

But the Big problem is Drivers, 2 of my Printers do not have Real VISTA
Drivers and also my HP Scanner, I can run them in XP SP3 compatibility Mode,
but is that available in the Home version.?

Its Illegal in what the Hardware firms are doing and by not supporting
hardware, even stuff that is working 100% and is only a few years old, I can
see why most of the Big US firms did not upgrade to VISTA.


A few bits of XP software runs OK with out the compatibility mode, one like
Powerdesk 7, this surprised me..


Funny think is that WIN 7 Had new drivers for my Old HP 6L laser printer.

Gee even Ford T you can still run them and get parts for them..

 
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Stephen Worthington
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      06-09-2009
On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:03:32 +1200, Woger <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>First view
>
>
>Very easy to install and fast.
>
>After bit of stuffing around managed to get replacements of the damaged Rar
>files, the posted had done a Fix but one was still bad, got that from another
>list.
>
>
>When I did a WIN 7 compatibly check all was OK but Flagged me that I need to
>update the Drivers for the ITE IDE Controller and the Silicon Image SATA
>controller, from the MS Web site.
>
>Installed it as a Dual boot System I think, found that Agent news reader will
>only work in XP compatibly mode.


Agent 5 should work fine if installed from scratch. If you have an
old install, the data files are in the wrong place - Vista and Win 7
do not allow programs to write to anything under "\Program Files"
unless User Account Control is off. The data files can be moved and
then it will not need compatibility mode. See:


http://www.forteinc.com/agent/faq.ph...257195007EDCDF

>Plus the Updates 4 listed, only one for my Sound card and the other for my HP
>printer, No updates are listed ITE IDE Controller and the Silicon Image SATA
>controller.
>
>So the 2 drives that are on the ITE Controller are no longer listed..

 
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Woger
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      06-09-2009
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:15:23 +1200, Stephen Worthington
<(E-Mail Removed)34.nz56.remove_numbers> wrote:

>On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:03:32 +1200, Woger <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>First view
>>
>>
>>Very easy to install and fast.
>>
>>After bit of stuffing around managed to get replacements of the damaged Rar
>>files, the posted had done a Fix but one was still bad, got that from another
>>list.
>>
>>
>>When I did a WIN 7 compatibly check all was OK but Flagged me that I need to
>>update the Drivers for the ITE IDE Controller and the Silicon Image SATA
>>controller, from the MS Web site.
>>
>>Installed it as a Dual boot System I think, found that Agent news reader will
>>only work in XP compatibly mode.

>
>Agent 5 should work fine if installed from scratch. If you have an
>old install, the data files are in the wrong place - Vista and Win 7
>do not allow programs to write to anything under "\Program Files"
>unless User Account Control is off. The data files can be moved and
>then it will not need compatibility mode. See:
>
>
>http://www.forteinc.com/agent/faq.ph...257195007EDCDF





Not a Good Move I think I will stay with XP as I do not want a Bloated Boot
Partition, I like the choice to place my files, if the Boot partition is not
large enough were will the User files go..?

So can the USER file be moved..?


>>Plus the Updates 4 listed, only one for my Sound card and the other for my HP
>>printer, No updates are listed ITE IDE Controller and the Silicon Image SATA
>>controller.
>>
>>So the 2 drives that are on the ITE Controller are no longer listed..

 
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Richard
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      06-10-2009
Woger wrote:
>
> Second view
>
>
> Seems to run a lot faster than XP but is ten times better than VISTA that I
> could not stand, seems very easy to use.


Well thats a good start.

> But the Big problem is Drivers, 2 of my Printers do not have Real VISTA
> Drivers and also my HP Scanner, I can run them in XP SP3 compatibility Mode,
> but is that available in the Home version.?
>
> Its Illegal in what the Hardware firms are doing and by not supporting
> hardware, even stuff that is working 100% and is only a few years old, I can
> see why most of the Big US firms did not upgrade to VISTA.


No, its not illegal what hardware firms are doing, they never said it
will work on operating systems that were not made when they sold you the
hardware.

Please explain how you came to the conclusion that it is illegal?

> A few bits of XP software runs OK with out the compatibility mode, one like
> Powerdesk 7, this surprised me..


I have not had to use that at all on my install of 7100 - perhaps I dont
use old software to the extent that you do?

> Funny think is that WIN 7 Had new drivers for my Old HP 6L laser printer.


because its the basis for hundreds of compatible printer drivers, and
its a pretty basic driver.

Really there isnt any reason that all the graphical printers shouldnt
work - its just a pretty basic thing that converts a large image into
the format that the printer accepts - not like older printers that do
fonts and scaling and dithering and stuff in the printer (normally very
very slowly)

> Gee even Ford T you can still run them and get parts for them..


yes, and you accept the fact that it drives unlike any other car made
today and that you have to go to some exotic mechanic who knows anything
about them.
 
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Woger
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      06-10-2009
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:16:31 +1200, Richard <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Woger wrote:
>>
>> Second view
>>
>>
>> Seems to run a lot faster than XP but is ten times better than VISTA that I
>> could not stand, seems very easy to use.

>
>Well thats a good start.
>
>> But the Big problem is Drivers, 2 of my Printers do not have Real VISTA
>> Drivers and also my HP Scanner, I can run them in XP SP3 compatibility Mode,
>> but is that available in the Home version.?
>>
>> Its Illegal in what the Hardware firms are doing and by not supporting
>> hardware, even stuff that is working 100% and is only a few years old, I can
>> see why most of the Big US firms did not upgrade to VISTA.

>
>No, its not illegal what hardware firms are doing, they never said it
>will work on operating systems that were not made when they sold you the
>hardware.
>
>Please explain how you came to the conclusion that it is illegal?




Consumers Guarantee Act, I think a product has to have 7 years support.

>> A few bits of XP software runs OK with out the compatibility mode, one like
>> Powerdesk 7, this surprised me..

>
>I have not had to use that at all on my install of 7100 - perhaps I dont
>use old software to the extent that you do?




Its a Must have for all Windows, it does things that you just can't do with
Windows, plus its not that old, as its called Powerdesk 7.


>> Funny think is that WIN 7 Had new drivers for my Old HP 6L laser printer.

>
>because its the basis for hundreds of compatible printer drivers, and
>its a pretty basic driver.
>
>Really there isnt any reason that all the graphical printers shouldnt
>work - its just a pretty basic thing that converts a large image into
>the format that the printer accepts - not like older printers that do
>fonts and scaling and dithering and stuff in the printer (normally very
>very slowly)
>
>> Gee even Ford T you can still run them and get parts for them..

>
>yes, and you accept the fact that it drives unlike any other car made
>today and that you have to go to some exotic mechanic who knows anything
>about them.




Yes but my HP Scanner works very well 5470C and my Epson R210 but don't
have Full Drivers only very limited ones.


Have not tried my Panasonic Dyesub printer yet..

 
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Ralph Fox
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      06-10-2009
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:04:47 +1200, in message <(E-Mail Removed)>
Woger <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:15:23 +1200, Stephen Worthington
> <(E-Mail Removed)34.nz56.remove_numbers> wrote:
>
> >Agent 5 should work fine if installed from scratch. If you have an
> >old install, the data files are in the wrong place - Vista and Win 7
> >do not allow programs to write to anything under "\Program Files"
> >unless User Account Control is off. The data files can be moved and
> >then it will not need compatibility mode. See:
> >
> >
> >http://www.forteinc.com/agent/faq.ph...257195007EDCDF

>
>
>
>
> Not a Good Move I think I will stay with XP as I do not want a Bloated Boot
> Partition, I like the choice to place my files, if the Boot partition is not
> large enough were will the User files go..?
>
> So can the USER file be moved..?



For instructions, read the Agent 5.0 help file page at
Help Index Data Folder (or Data Directory) How to Move the Data Folder


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Ralph


 
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Woger
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      06-10-2009
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:35:11 +1200, Ralph Fox <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:04:47 +1200, in message <(E-Mail Removed)>
>Woger <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:15:23 +1200, Stephen Worthington
>> <(E-Mail Removed)34.nz56.remove_numbers> wrote:
>>
>> >Agent 5 should work fine if installed from scratch. If you have an
>> >old install, the data files are in the wrong place - Vista and Win 7
>> >do not allow programs to write to anything under "\Program Files"
>> >unless User Account Control is off. The data files can be moved and
>> >then it will not need compatibility mode. See:
>> >
>> >
>> >http://www.forteinc.com/agent/faq.ph...257195007EDCDF

>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Not a Good Move I think I will stay with XP as I do not want a Bloated Boot
>> Partition, I like the choice to place my files, if the Boot partition is not
>> large enough were will the User files go..?
>>
>> So can the USER file be moved..?

>
>
>For instructions, read the Agent 5.0 help file page at
>Help Index Data Folder (or Data Directory) How to Move the Data Folder




No I need to Move the WIN 7 USER Folder so that it does not load up my Boot
Partition.


There are 2 Parts to Agent the Agent Folder and the Agent Data folder, are we
just refereeing to all of it or just the Data folder..?

 
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Stephen Worthington
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      06-11-2009
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:18:01 +1200, Woger <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:35:11 +1200, Ralph Fox <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:04:47 +1200, in message <(E-Mail Removed)>
>>Woger <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:15:23 +1200, Stephen Worthington
>>> <(E-Mail Removed)34.nz56.remove_numbers> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Agent 5 should work fine if installed from scratch. If you have an
>>> >old install, the data files are in the wrong place - Vista and Win 7
>>> >do not allow programs to write to anything under "\Program Files"
>>> >unless User Account Control is off. The data files can be moved and
>>> >then it will not need compatibility mode. See:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >http://www.forteinc.com/agent/faq.ph...257195007EDCDF
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Not a Good Move I think I will stay with XP as I do not want a Bloated Boot
>>> Partition, I like the choice to place my files, if the Boot partition is not
>>> large enough were will the User files go..?
>>>
>>> So can the USER file be moved..?

>>
>>
>>For instructions, read the Agent 5.0 help file page at
>>Help Index Data Folder (or Data Directory) How to Move the Data Folder

>
>
>
>No I need to Move the WIN 7 USER Folder so that it does not load up my Boot
>Partition.


I believe it is possible to move the USER directory for any particular
user in Vista, so it is likely to be the same in Win 7. I recall
running across a web page about how to do it, but I have no idea now
where it was.

>There are 2 Parts to Agent the Agent Folder and the Agent Data folder, are we
>just refereeing to all of it or just the Data folder..?


The data folder goes into the USER directory. The programs remain
where they are. Just follow the instructions in the help file that
Ralph Fox pointed you to. It is all explained there.
 
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Richard
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      06-11-2009
Woger wrote:
>>
>> Please explain how you came to the conclusion that it is illegal?

>
>
>
> Consumers Guarantee Act, I think a product has to have 7 years support.


Still works on the OS's that they supported when it was sold 7 years laters.

>>> A few bits of XP software runs OK with out the compatibility mode, one like
>>> Powerdesk 7, this surprised me..

>> I have not had to use that at all on my install of 7100 - perhaps I dont
>> use old software to the extent that you do?

>
> Its a Must have for all Windows, it does things that you just can't do with
> Windows, plus its not that old, as its called Powerdesk 7.


What does it do that you find that windows lacks in?


>>> Funny think is that WIN 7 Had new drivers for my Old HP 6L laser printer.

>> because its the basis for hundreds of compatible printer drivers, and
>> its a pretty basic driver.
>>
>> Really there isnt any reason that all the graphical printers shouldnt
>> work - its just a pretty basic thing that converts a large image into
>> the format that the printer accepts - not like older printers that do
>> fonts and scaling and dithering and stuff in the printer (normally very
>> very slowly)
>>
>>> Gee even Ford T you can still run them and get parts for them..

>> yes, and you accept the fact that it drives unlike any other car made
>> today and that you have to go to some exotic mechanic who knows anything
>> about them.

>
>
>
> Yes but my HP Scanner works very well 5470C and my Epson R210 but don't
> have Full Drivers only very limited ones.
>
>
> Have not tried my Panasonic Dyesub printer yet..


Why should the companies that make these printers keep making drivers
for people that choose to upgrade there computer from what was supported
when it was bought? It is just stupid business practice IMO...
 
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