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We use SafeSquid as content filtering proxy at our office. To get
detailed per-user usage reports, we have installed the open source log
analyzer - Sarg. You can generate daily / weekly / monthly log reports
that displays the websites visited by each user (ID or IP), total time
& bytes consumed, time & bytes consumed on each site, files
downloaded, top users, top sites, etc. etc. There are lots of other
open source log analyzers, but I don't know if they work on Windows,
except Sarg, Calamaris & AWStats.

Start by showing all your employees exactly which websites *YOU* have been
visiting over the last month - warts n all. Accountable leadership I believe
it's called.

--
Jon

Just Say No
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EehZHNvLJuo





"Paul" <> wrote in message
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> Hi, sorry if this in't the best the wrong group for this query. I've
> been asked to find software that will see what websites our 25
> employees are going to. Does anyone know any software that's good for
> this purpose?
>
> I do not want to have to install anything on the workstations
> themselves unless absolutely neccessary. I don't need full on
> keylogging or anything either - just simply websites viewed.
>
> Also just to complicate things further, the workstations are XP,
> Vista, and OSx too. Is there something that just scans port 80
> perhaps that would do the job? I'm using a BT Business router that
> can't log websites vistied. I don't want to install ISA either
> really.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

"Phillip Windell" <> wrote in message
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> "Paul" <> wrote in message
> news:ec82b2ee-5936-4ddd-9bdf-...
> > perhaps that would do the job? I'm using a BT Business router that
>
> Not much of a "business router" then. Actually if it was really a
> "commercial grade" product they wouldn't be calling it a "router" since
that
> is the "home user" abuse of the term. They are not "routers".
>

*******s - http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/...368/index.html

On Tue, 12 May 2009 09:04:34 +0100, "Jon"
<> wrote:

>Start by showing all your employees exactly which websites *YOU* have been
>visiting over the last month - warts n all. Accountable leadership I believe
>it's called.
>
>--
>Jon

I'd go a little further.

1. Start by telling management that they are using an archaic
management style generally known as "theory X". With that style of
management, managers believe that employees are generally lazy and
won't work hard unless strictly supervised under a narrow set of rules
designed to keep their noses to the grindstone. Suggest that they go
look up "Theory Y" and learn what most smart companies figured out
about 40 years ago regarding motivating employees and obtaining
maximum performance.

2. Go prepare your resume. You don't want to work for a bunch of dolts
that spend their time worrying about what web sites employees are
browsing instead of concentrating on serving the company's customers.

"+Bob+" <> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 12 May 2009 09:04:34 +0100, "Jon"
> <> wrote:
>
>>Start by showing all your employees exactly which websites *YOU* have been
>>visiting over the last month - warts n all. Accountable leadership I
>>believe
>>it's called.
>>
>>--
>>Jon
>
> I'd go a little further.
>
> 1. Start by telling management that they are using an archaic
> management style generally known as "theory X". With that style of
> management, managers believe that employees are generally lazy and
> won't work hard unless strictly supervised under a narrow set of rules
> designed to keep their noses to the grindstone. Suggest that they go
> look up "Theory Y" and learn what most smart companies figured out
> about 40 years ago regarding motivating employees and obtaining
> maximum performance.
>
> 2. Go prepare your resume. You don't want to work for a bunch of dolts
> that spend their time worrying about what web sites employees are
> browsing instead of concentrating on serving the company's customers.
>
>
>

+BOB+ - I'll bet you don't have that problem at Jack-In-The-Box, do you?
All you need to know is when to remove the fries from the fryer. LOL!

"+Bob+" <> wrote in message
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> I'd go a little further.
>
> 1. Start by telling management that they are using an archaic
> management style generally known as "theory X". With that style of
> management, managers believe that employees are generally lazy and
> won't work hard unless strictly supervised under a narrow set of rules
> designed to keep their noses to the grindstone. Suggest that they go
> look up "Theory Y" and learn what most smart companies figured out
> about 40 years ago regarding motivating employees and obtaining
> maximum performance.
>
> 2. Go prepare your resume. You don't want to work for a bunch of dolts
> that spend their time worrying about what web sites employees are
> browsing instead of concentrating on serving the company's customers.
>



Yep, it's tyrannical 'Henry Ford style' 'theory x' "you can have any website
you like as long we approve of it" management at its worst. Penalising any
bright sparks who decide to think outside of the box; who find solutions in
obscure portions of the www that management doesn't anticipate.

In times gone by such non-brainwashed people would be hailed as a heros /
heroines. Now, they're labelled as 'dangerous', and wheeled off to the
dismissal room as an 'enemies of the corporation'.

Judge employees by their *performance* and by who gets *results*, rather
than seeking to stifle their mental freedom. The more intelligent and
valuable employees will be thinking outside of the box anyway.

I'd certainly be preparing my resume, and looking longingly at the exit
door, if I were working there.

Poor employees.

--
Jon

Just Say No
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EehZHNvLJuo

Yeah, that would work too.

--
Thank you,
Mel K.
MCSA: M
"the wharf rat" <> wrote in message
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> In article <>,
> Mel K. <> wrote:
>>You need to install a Web filter system/appliance. Also, note that there
>>are
>
> He could use Snort for this.
>

In article <>,
Jon <> wrote:
>
>Yep, it's tyrannical 'Henry Ford style' 'theory x' "you can have any website
>you like as long we approve of it" management at its worst. Penalising any
>bright sparks who decide to think outside of the box; who find solutions in
>obscure portions of the www that management doesn't anticipate.

That's nonsense. First of all, you have no right as an employee
to use the employer network for any purpose not specifically allowed,
nor do you have an automatic right of privacy. If I lend you my car
on the condition that you only use premium gas am I being a tyrannical
manager? You're free to go borrow someone else's car you know.

Secondly, in today's legal climate if I accidentally glimpse
you accidentally viewing a website I consider offensive it can leave the
employer liable for the subsequent civil suit. Don't blame your
management. Blame the people who insist on legislating your right to profit
from being offended.

Lastly, depending on the nature of the work there may be real
security issues involved. Think of working for one of those three letter
government agencies.

The bottom line is that unless you're a star or a relative you work
for someone on their terms, and those terms are niether good nor evil but
simply their control of their own private property.

"the wharf rat" <> wrote in message
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> In article <>,
> Jon <> wrote:

> That's nonsense. First of all, you have no right as an employee
> to use the employer network for any purpose not specifically allowed,
> nor do you have an automatic right of privacy. If I lend you my car
> on the condition that you only use premium gas am I being a tyrannical
> manager? You're free to go borrow someone else's car you know.


'Tyranny', using your car analogy, would go beyond following basic
instructions like deciding which fuel is put into the vehicle. It would be
putting tracking devices that log every movement of that driver + car
(conditions under which many work today). Big difference.

People have been driving goods + people successfully from A to B since the
invention of the motor car without such Big Brother devices. And yes you do
have a right to basic human privacy, which isn't something given to you by
your employer, nor something for which you need to ask their permission.


>
> Secondly, in today's legal climate if I accidentally glimpse
> you accidentally viewing a website I consider offensive it can leave the
> employer liable for the subsequent civil suit. Don't blame your
> management. Blame the people who insist on legislating your right to
> profit
> from being offended.
>
> Lastly, depending on the nature of the work there may be real
> security issues involved. Think of working for one of those three letter
> government agencies.
>
> The bottom line is that unless you're a star or a relative you work
> for someone on their terms, and those terms are niether good nor evil but
> simply their control of their own private property.
>


A crime is a crime anywhere, whether it's committed in the workplace or not.

Whose property is used isn't the issue. If an employee murders a colleague
in the workplace using a knife from the employer's kitchen, it's that
employee who is held accountable, and not the employer.

The only 100% way to protect from workplace crimes would be to not employ
anyone in the first place. It comes down to trust and employing the right
people .

--
Jon

Just Say No
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EehZHNvLJuo

In article <#>,
Jon <> wrote:
>
>'Tyranny', using your car analogy, would go beyond following basic
>instructions like deciding which fuel is put into the vehicle. It would be
>putting tracking devices that log every movement of that driver + car

How can that be tyrannical? It's my car! Tyrannical would be
putting those things in YOUR car.

>A crime is a crime anywhere, whether it's committed in the workplace or not.

No, for instance, you can't breach your fiduciary responsibiliy
to your cat... Well, assuming that your cat isn't a stockholder...

>Whose property is used isn't the issue. If an employee murders a colleague
>in the workplace using a knife from the employer's kitchen, it's that
>employee who is held accountable, and not the employer.

Actually that's less than completely true. The legal
principle involved is called "respondeat superior" and imposes
a certain amount of vicarious liability on an employer.